Installed Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4's
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Lexus LS 460 F-Sport (retired), 2020 Lexus GX460 Black, 2020 S560 Diamond White Metallic
Installed Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4's
A quick review of comfort and road noise only...
Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4 20”
City driving 35 mph
Comfort: 9.5; dull thud over minor road imperfections
Quiet: 9.5
Highway 75 mph
Comfort: 9; very smooth
Quiet: 9; 1 db quieter than Pirelli RF’s (phone db app), might be mental optimism but I could tell a difference
For comparison…
Pirelli P Zero Run Flats 20” (previous tires)
City driving 35 mph (same route)
Comfort: 7, harsh over minor road imperfections but generally comfortable
Quiet: 9; never an issue with RF’s here
Highway 75 mph (same route)
Comfort: 8, obviously feel more "road" versus non-RF’s but still smooth
Quiet: 8; 1 db louder than AS4's
IMO the S560 with RF’s is more comfortable and quieter than my previous car, 2016 LS460 F-Sport with 19” Bridgestone Quiettracks (clearly MB car design & engineering)
Bridgestone Quiettrack 19” (LS460)
City driving 35 mph (same route, but about 5 mins after tires warmed up due to resting flat spots)
Comfort: 8.5
Quiet: 8.5
Highway 75 mph (same route)
Comfort: 8
Quiet: 7.5; 4 db higher than AS4’s; used a different phone app at that time (not a fair comparison); S560 with RF’s is quieter
Other notes:
Tire lip extends noticeably further out from the wheel versus the RF's (and thicker), which I like. Perhaps this will give a little more wheel protection against curb rash.
I'm also in a 4 season location so traction and tire integrity will be greatly improved during cold winter months versus summer RF's
Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4 20”
City driving 35 mph
Comfort: 9.5; dull thud over minor road imperfections
Quiet: 9.5
Highway 75 mph
Comfort: 9; very smooth
Quiet: 9; 1 db quieter than Pirelli RF’s (phone db app), might be mental optimism but I could tell a difference
For comparison…
Pirelli P Zero Run Flats 20” (previous tires)
City driving 35 mph (same route)
Comfort: 7, harsh over minor road imperfections but generally comfortable
Quiet: 9; never an issue with RF’s here
Highway 75 mph (same route)
Comfort: 8, obviously feel more "road" versus non-RF’s but still smooth
Quiet: 8; 1 db louder than AS4's
IMO the S560 with RF’s is more comfortable and quieter than my previous car, 2016 LS460 F-Sport with 19” Bridgestone Quiettracks (clearly MB car design & engineering)
Bridgestone Quiettrack 19” (LS460)
City driving 35 mph (same route, but about 5 mins after tires warmed up due to resting flat spots)
Comfort: 8.5
Quiet: 8.5
Highway 75 mph (same route)
Comfort: 8
Quiet: 7.5; 4 db higher than AS4’s; used a different phone app at that time (not a fair comparison); S560 with RF’s is quieter
Other notes:
Tire lip extends noticeably further out from the wheel versus the RF's (and thicker), which I like. Perhaps this will give a little more wheel protection against curb rash.
I'm also in a 4 season location so traction and tire integrity will be greatly improved during cold winter months versus summer RF's
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People have posted on here about RFTs they consider to ride well on an S, which is great. I would love to be able to try their cars and see just good an RF can be. It may also be that we drive in differing conditions; the streets here are endlessly patched and years overdue for repaving.
Interesting that you found your S on RFTs rides better than a Lexus LS on Quiettracks. Many have praised the QTs on their S, so it seems to say the S is inherently a much better riding car than the Lexus..
Interesting that you found your S on RFTs rides better than a Lexus LS on Quiettracks. Many have praised the QTs on their S, so it seems to say the S is inherently a much better riding car than the Lexus..
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People have posted on here about RFTs they consider to ride well on an S, which is great. I would love to be able to try their cars and see just good an RF can be. It may also be that we drive in differing conditions; the streets here are endlessly patched and years overdue for repaving.
Interesting that you found your S on RFTs rides better than a Lexus LS on Quiettracks. Many have praised the QTs on their S, so it seems to say the S is inherently a much better riding car than the Lexus..
Interesting that you found your S on RFTs rides better than a Lexus LS on Quiettracks. Many have praised the QTs on their S, so it seems to say the S is inherently a much better riding car than the Lexus..
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Happy to read this! I have the AS4 sitting in my garage to go on my 20" wheels next week, but I am coming from the ContiSportContact 5P, extreme performance summer tires that are worn to the wear bars and very loud!
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I came from a LWB LS460L with air suspension, which rides better than the F Sport. The S Class rides better, most notably at highway speeds where the LS tended to float and wander and the S Class just glides down the highway like its on rails. Noisewise, wind noise the S Class may actually have slightly more (S Class is considerably more sensitive to crosswind than the LS), but the S Class masks road noise much better than the LS.
Using a phone dB meter app I get about the same reading in the S560 I got in the LS, but on a calm day the S560 feels quieter. Windy day, less so.
Using a phone dB meter app I get about the same reading in the S560 I got in the LS, but on a calm day the S560 feels quieter. Windy day, less so.
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Put the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4's on my '11 Lexus LS460 and couldn't be happier (19 inch). Smooth, quiet and overall good performance. They'll be going on '16 S coupe replacing the RF's when tires are needed. These go on the new base Vettes as standard equip. Check Costco prices. I paid $930 OTD with their Michelin discounts and came with a 45k mile warranty.
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I appreciate your review , thanks for that . I am happy with Michelin Primacy as well. I have not used Sport Series but those must be comfy as well given your satisfaction on 20" wheels
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Regular tires ride and handle better. Run Flats are more forgiving. I had so many blow outs with non run flats on a 19 inch tires and none on run flats. I will stick with run flats.
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Been driving since 1959 and have never had a blowout. Regarding flats, the few I've had have been caused by nails and I've always been able to get home for plugging the tire or taking it to a shop for repair. I've never needed a spare. That's 62 years of experience with countless thousands of road miles. Michelin has always been my choice of tires.
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Been driving since 1959 and have never had a blowout. Regarding flats, the few I've had have been caused by nails and I've always been able to get home for plugging the tire or taking it to a shop for repair. I've never needed a spare. That's 62 years of experience with countless thousands of road miles. Michelin has always been my choice of tires.
62 years is a long time. I respect that. It may be that I am a bad driver. However you live in Florida, There are no pot holes in Florida. In the north east the roads not as good. For that reason I run run flats.
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I had one blow-out since I started to drive in 1977, that was on my Infiniti Q45 running 245/35 19 Bridgestones going hard over an expansion joint, but made the mistake of not using XL load tire, never made that error again.. I plan to get PS4's when the Run Flats wear out, my CPO car came with new set of Michelin MXM Primacy which still have plenty of meat. For sure a XL 102+ load rating helps to keep the blow-outs to a minimum.
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Been driving since 1959 and have never had a blowout. Regarding flats, the few I've had have been caused by nails and I've always been able to get home for plugging the tire or taking it to a shop for repair. I've never needed a spare. That's 62 years of experience with countless thousands of road miles. Michelin has always been my choice of tires.
