Rare W222 Available
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Rare W222 Available
A moderately-equipped W222 with 3D High-end sound option ...
https://www.texascarsdirect.com/used...UG8DB0JA406790
https://www.texascarsdirect.com/used...UG8DB0JA406790
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A moderately-equipped W222 with 3D High-end sound option ...
https://www.texascarsdirect.com/used...UG8DB0JA406790
https://www.texascarsdirect.com/used...UG8DB0JA406790
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Without the rear seat package??? No way. While 3D is a nice option t think this car should be about 60-62 in my neck of the woods. Cars without rear seat package sell for 55-60 here all day long. YES, those are today's prices. This car is overpriced!
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Heres the only W222 for sale in Maine on cars.com. 2019 for $90k.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/1...-ca0b0ae2a238/
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I bought my 30k mile car last December (original MSRP was $120k) after the chip shortage was going on and paid $47k. According to your logic, it would now be worth $60-65k at a dealer. Ummm....I don't think so.
BTW, there are currently similar mileage and better equiped 2018 S560's with list prices in the $67k area at car dealers.
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Just curious. Here's page 2 of the original window sticker from my 2014 S550 4Matic (59000 miles). Would you guys consider this to be a "rare" car?
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This is a temporary phenomenon until chip production is caught up. IMO it's stupid to overspend right now unless you have deep pockets and money is meaningless to you.
I bought my 30k mile car last December (original MSRP was $120k) after the chip shortage was going on and paid $47k. According to your logic, it would now be worth $60-65k at a dealer. Ummm....I don't think so.
BTW, there are currently similar mileage and better equiped 2018 S560's with list prices in the $67k area at car dealers.
I bought my 30k mile car last December (original MSRP was $120k) after the chip shortage was going on and paid $47k. According to your logic, it would now be worth $60-65k at a dealer. Ummm....I don't think so.
BTW, there are currently similar mileage and better equiped 2018 S560's with list prices in the $67k area at car dealers.
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It seems most car companies are moving towards an order based system sold at MSRP vs high dealer inventory. I think dealers and manufactures have learned a lesson, that was forced on them, that higher profit per vehicle is easier than higher volume. Dave may be driving his 7 model year old S for years and years to come...
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In the Northeast, there is a supply of reasonably priced 2016-2017 S class, right about 60K or less. There are 2018 models for under 70. It is true, now is not the time to buy used though. New Sprinter vans are selling for 15K OVER MSRP at my local Sprinter dealer. My local Mercedes dealer has offered me what I paid for my 22K mile 2017 S550 in July of 2020, 60K. The car now has 36K on it. There IS a shortage of inventory but as people move more towards SUV and EV vehicles there is less demand for four-door sedans of any make.
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It seems most car companies are moving towards an order based system sold at MSRP vs high dealer inventory. I think dealers and manufactures have learned a lesson, that was forced on them, that higher profit per vehicle is easier than higher volume. Dave may be driving his 7 model year old S for years and years to come...
I usually keep my cars for around 3 years. So in 2 years when my current 6 year old (build date 6-15) low mileage S550 is ready to be swapped out for a different model, I won't be over-paying like others are doing right now.
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Everyone here is buying a much more expensive car than they are selling. And since the market markup is proportional to sales cost, you will save more money when the prices come down.
A new W223 is going for $20k over sticker when a new W222 was $12k under sticker. So if he was to go and buy a new W223 today you’re telling me he’s going to get $32k more for his car now than in the normal market?
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I disagree with this logic. The first part of your statement is correct but “it all evens out” is not.
Everyone here is buying a much more expensive car than they are selling. And since the market markup is proportional to sales cost, you will save more money when the prices come down.
A new W223 is going for $20k over sticker when a new W222 was $12k under sticker. So if he was to go and buy a new W223 today you’re telling me he’s going to get $32k more for his car now than in the normal market?
Everyone here is buying a much more expensive car than they are selling. And since the market markup is proportional to sales cost, you will save more money when the prices come down.
A new W223 is going for $20k over sticker when a new W222 was $12k under sticker. So if he was to go and buy a new W223 today you’re telling me he’s going to get $32k more for his car now than in the normal market?
I don't buy cars for equity, they are pretty much rentals, so if you can afford to "rent" the car you love, do it! Don't wait 18 months lol, 18 months is never promised.
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This is all temporary. In the next 18 months, car prices will return to normal and car lots will be full of cars like they were pre-COVID. As people become more poor with the Biden hyper-inflation model, we will likely see margins shrink and dealer profits shrinking as well. It's just simple economics my friend.
I usually keep my cars for around 3 years. So in 2 years when my current 6 year old (build date 6-15) low mileage S550 is ready to be swapped out for a different model, I won't be over-paying like others are doing right now.
I usually keep my cars for around 3 years. So in 2 years when my current 6 year old (build date 6-15) low mileage S550 is ready to be swapped out for a different model, I won't be over-paying like others are doing right now.
The inflationary Covid related fiscal stimulus and monetary policy started before Biden took office.
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There are so many factors that will influence the way cars are sold and bought one year, two years and three years from now. Anecdotal experience from talking to people at my MB dealership is this:
1. New Car sales staff has been trimmed by close to 70 percent.
2. There is adequate supply of new cars, but they are being sold at MSRP or slightly below.
3. Used cars still command a high premium.
4. Customers are slightly getting used to ordering new cars and are getting used to paying MRSP opposed to wandering a lot full of new cars.
5. Ordering cars saves the dealer a ton on floor planning.
6. Much more business is being done on line and over the phone.
7. Service department has cut no one and is still very busy.
I think Covid and Inflation will and have changed the way the Auto business is conducted. I think the future will look far different from the past.
1. New Car sales staff has been trimmed by close to 70 percent.
2. There is adequate supply of new cars, but they are being sold at MSRP or slightly below.
3. Used cars still command a high premium.
4. Customers are slightly getting used to ordering new cars and are getting used to paying MRSP opposed to wandering a lot full of new cars.
5. Ordering cars saves the dealer a ton on floor planning.
6. Much more business is being done on line and over the phone.
7. Service department has cut no one and is still very busy.
I think Covid and Inflation will and have changed the way the Auto business is conducted. I think the future will look far different from the past.
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There are so many factors that will influence the way cars are sold and bought one year, two years and three years from now. Anecdotal experience from talking to people at my MB dealership is this:
I think Covid and Inflation will and have changed the way the Auto business is conducted. I think the future will look far different from the past.
I think Covid and Inflation will and have changed the way the Auto business is conducted. I think the future will look far different from the past.
So much is unknown, crazy times.
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Actually this is all recent, inflation was normal through the first quarter. While there was tremendous government spending last year, it was done methodically. Initially we started with the massive PPP and other stimulus needed when the country shut down in March, then there were targeted smaller bills designed to bridge a gap and keep demand up without flooding the system with money. Then the new administration came in and dropped the nuke of all nukes with the $1.7T stimulus package that was entirely unneeded. Households were flush with cash and we sent them thousands more. That money slushing around the system predictably led to the current inflation issues. I work in finance and we have seen this coming since January, it was so blatantly obvious. We know the Fed is completely asleep at the wheel so we all collectively laugh as they are just now waking up and saying wow. One of the dumbest comments I have heard recently is transitory, no, it is not transitory- it is going to get worse. Just wait until the massive employee salary increases really hit the bottom line...
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Actually this is all recent, inflation was normal through the first quarter. While there was tremendous government spending last year, it was done methodically. Initially we started with the massive PPP and other stimulus needed when the country shut down in March, then there were targeted smaller bills designed to bridge a gap and keep demand up without flooding the system with money. Then the new administration came in and dropped the nuke of all nukes with the $1.7T stimulus package that was entirely unneeded. Households were flush with cash and we sent them thousands more. That money slushing around the system predictably led to the current inflation issues. I work in finance and we have seen this coming since January, it was so blatantly obvious. We know the Fed is completely asleep at the wheel so we all collectively laugh as they are just now waking up and saying wow. One of the dumbest comments I have heard recently is transitory, no, it is not transitory- it is going to get worse. Just wait until the massive employee salary increases really hit the bottom line...