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Old Aug 22, 2022 | 06:46 PM
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Anybody know the part number for the front 19" AMG split 5 spokes?

Anybody know the part number for this wheel? Its the front one...

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Old Aug 22, 2022 | 10:04 PM
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Anybody know the part number for this wheel? Its the front one...

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Is this the wheel?






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Old Aug 22, 2022 | 11:55 PM
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That looks like it, I assume the wheels are the same on the coupe and the sedan...
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Old Aug 23, 2022 | 12:23 AM
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That looks like it, I assume the wheels are the same on the coupe and the sedan...
Yes, as far as I know.
Haven't yet seen any indication that the wheels would be different for coupes and sedans.
Please do check around for pricing. I've seen them as low as $1182.00 each, for example:
Wheel AMG 5-Twin-Spoke 48.3 Cm (19 Inch) - Mercedes-Benz (222-401-00-00-64-7X21)

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Still expensive. I had one refinished today and I'm not happy with the result. They were supposed to re-machine the whole wheel to factory specs and instead they just did a spot repair which resulted in a dull, gritty feeling area. I am considering just replacing the wheel rather than fighting with them about it, but thats a lot of money!
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Old Aug 23, 2022 | 12:36 AM
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Still expensive. I had one refinished today and I'm not happy with the result. They were supposed to re-machine the whole wheel to factory specs and instead they just did a spot repair which resulted in a dull, gritty feeling area. I am considering just replacing the wheel rather than fighting with them about it, but thats a lot of money!
I agree, you are right, it is still expensive. But as some wise guy once said: you have to pay to play. :O)
And of course there's always plan B:


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Old Aug 23, 2022 | 12:39 AM
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It was just a super small little curb rash. I should have just left it alone...
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Old Aug 23, 2022 | 01:08 AM
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It was just a super small little curb rash. I should have just left it alone...
I know how you feel. Last year I curbed my left front and had my dealer do a refinish both on it and the left rear. Price seemed good.
They assured me I would not know the difference after the repair. From six feet away that was true, but up close not so much. It was bad.
I take really good care of my stuff and am willing to pay to get things fixed right. I was extremely disappointed in the quality of their work.
It really bugged me for about a week (my poor wife) but after that I must admit I pretty much forgot about it. Life goes on...

...and fortunes change. This summer my mechanic suggested I get both summer and winter wheels (because I had summer and winter tires).
With his help I was very fortunate to find a local set that had only 4K miles on them and were flawless. Only paid $2000. I couldn't believe it!
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I know how you feel. Last year I curbed my left front and had my dealer do a refinish both on it and the left rear. Price seemed good.
They assured me I would not know the difference after the repair. From six feet away that was true, but up close not so much. It was bad.
I take really good care of my stuff and am willing to pay to get things fixed right. I was extremely disappointed in the quality of their work.
It really bugged me for about a week (my poor wife) but after that I must admit I pretty much forgot about it. Life goes on...
Yeah thats how spot repairs are, the repair they did to my wheel was very well done, but its just a spot repair and it leaves a dull area that doesn't match or feel the same. Whats frustrating is I elected to have the whole wheel re-machined and clearcoated which would have been perfect but they decided on their own to do a spot repair and not do what I had brought it in to have done.

I emailed a parts center about the wheel and even included the VIN and I got this very snippy response:

We require very specific information for a wheel order. The only way to confirm a match is to get a number off the back of the wheel. It is generally on one of the spokes. It will start with the letter "A" followed by ten numbers. We will not process an order with out this number.
He got an even snipper reply lol
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Anybody know the part number for this wheel? Its the front one...


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Old Aug 23, 2022 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
...but they decided on their own to do a spot repair and not do what I had brought it in to have done...l
Personally, in that case, I would return to the shop and have them do what they originally agreed to do and ask them to deduct the amount already paid from the subsequent bill.
Sounds like they are the ones that decided to attempt to fix it on the cheap, not you. It obviously did not work to your satisfaction. Can it still be re-machined and clearcoated?
I'd be absolutely polite, patient, and to-the-end-of-time persistent with them. People tend to hate that and will go out of their way to help if only to finally get rid of you. :O)
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Old Aug 23, 2022 | 02:55 PM
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Personally, in that case, I would return to the shop and have them do what they originally agreed to do and ask them to deduct the amount already paid from the subsequent bill.
Sounds like they are the ones that decided to attempt to fix it on the cheap, not you. It obviously did not work to your satisfaction. Can it still be re-machined and clearcoated?
I'd be absolutely polite, patient, and to-the-end-of-time persistent with them. People tend to hate that and will go out of their way to help if only to finally get rid of you. :O)
I'm trying to do that, but they are being difficult about it. It could still be re-machined and clearcoated for sure. I'm taking it over there Thursday. This shop has great reviews and a great reputation, but they should never have changed their approach to the repair without discussing it with me first, especially when they presented me with pictures of outcomes and I chose the one I want.

This was the latest response I got:

Steve,

In reviewing the photos, there doesn't seem to be any issue with the repair. The blend was the best option for the damage that was there. Once the wheel was seen in person, it was apparent that it was unnecessary to refinish the wheel in its entirety and was repaired accordingly. XXXX, the Owner, whom you met with, also discussed and disclosed this at the time of pickup. Pricing was also adjusted to match. Had there been other damages to the rest of the wheel, it would have been logical to refinish the whole wheel. However, even if the wheel had been entirely redone, there would be a slight discrepancy as 100% factory specifications can only be achieved by the factory itself. For instance, if a body shop repairs a wrecked vehicle, it will not be the exact same as a factory finish. It would be up to factory standards, but not 100% factory. As such, even if the entire wheel were to be redone, you may notice a slight difference between the repaired wheel and the rest. The blend option was the best route taken in order to minimize any discrepancies. That being said, we would advise against refinishing the whole wheel as it is not necessary and may create a bigger problem, as outlined above. The only way a 100% match can be guaranteed is with a brand new factory replacement wheel.

We strive to make our clients happy and take great pride in our work. Each task is approached with our years of experience and knowledge in this field in order to ensure the best possible outcome.
These were the options I was given:

Hello, Steve.

Thank you for contacting XXXXX and providing photos for review.

As you have two-tone machined finish wheels, there are two options we can offer:


Blending or refinishing properly.
  • Blending - $160 per wheel - If you would like to only repair the curb damages on the wheels and blend in silver to cut down on some costs, this is one route you can take. With this method, instead of re-machining the entire wheels properly, there will be some minor discrepancy between the repaired and machined portions. Unfortunately, with a machined wheel, there is no way to just spot-machine to factory specs. In order to achieve 100% factory specs, the entire wheel needs to be machined.
  • Machining - $200 per wheel - If you would like to achieve factory specs, the entire wheel will need to be re-machined.

Due to the high volume of work we have, we will need the wheel or the vehicle to be left at our facility for a minimum of 1-2 business days to allow ample time to complete the repair properly. Your vehicle will remain inside our indoor facility under full 24/7 surveillance and security for the duration of the work.

I have attached a photo of a wheel we have entirely re-machined to factory specs for your reference to see the quality of work we provide.

Please let me know if you have any other questions or if you would like to schedule a drop-off.

Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you.
What I find hilarious is in the email I received after I said I wasn't happy with the outcome "factory specs" are impossible to achieve lol. And if they were just going to decide and do "what is best" why give me the option in the first place?
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I'm trying to do that, but they are being difficult about it. It could still be re-machined and clearcoated for sure. I'm taking it over there Thursday. This shop has great reviews and a great reputation, but they should never have changed their approach to the repair without discussing it with me first, especially when they presented me with pictures of outcomes and I chose the one I want.

This was the latest response I got:
"...In reviewing the photos, there doesn't seem to be any issue with the repair..."
"...instead of re-machining the entire wheels properly, there will be some minor discrepancy between the repaired and machined portions...."
"...As such, even if the entire wheel were to be redone, you may notice a slight difference between the repaired wheel and the rest (of the wheels)..."

These were the options I was given:
"...Machining - $200 per wheel - If you would like to achieve factory specs, the entire wheel will need to be re-machined..."
"...Blending - $160 per wheel - With this method, instead of re-machining the entire wheels properly, there will be some minor discrepancy between the repaired and machined portions..."

What I find hilarious is in the email I received after I said I wasn't happy with the outcome "factory specs" are impossible to achieve lol. And if they were just going to decide and do "what is best" why give me the option in the first place?
"...they should never have changed their approach to the repair without discussing it with me first..." I wholeheartedly agree.

They are mistaken. There is an issue with the repair. You are left with a wheel that has some "minor discrepancy between the repaired and machined portions" which the company warned you of if you chose the Blending option. However, you chose the more expensive Machining option "to achieve factory specs" to avoid all that. I'm guessing you anticipated the Blending option would offend your eye and the touch of your hand. They decided to change the agreement without notifying you and thus without your consent. You didn't drop it off and say "do what you want". They had you select an option and then they disregarded that without prior notification before performing the work. They screwed up, not you.

Question: Steve, if they machine the whole wheel so that the wheel unto itself was perfect and uniform but perhaps doesn't exactly match the other three, can you live with that? (I'm not sure you could notice the difference day to day, much less others walking or driving past.) If you can live with it, insist that they fulfill their original agreement have them machine it and leave them a sterling review about how they back up their work and how customer satisfaction is their ultimate goal. If not, just buy a new wheel or get all four machined (which to me seems like a waste).

Remember their statement: "We strive to make our clients happy and take great pride in our work." Unless they back that up with their actions, it's simply bull**** and it would be your duty to alert others to that fact. :O)

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That’s exactly right! I was given the option to do what he did, and I rejected that and he took it upon himself to do it anyways. He decided he knew better what to do to my property than I did.

It’s like if you have a painter come to paint a room, and instead he just decides to touch it up and expects that you’ll be happy with that.

Honestly the repair is really good, the difference between the repaired section and the machined sections are so close I probably would not have him machine the whole thing. What needs to be done right though is the whole area around the repair needs to be wet sanded and polished so that the gloss and smoothness matches the non repaired sections.

But yeah I could have all 4 re machined for less than one new wheel.
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Technically: if you take a 5-spoke wheel and cut the middle of each spoke you end up with a 10-spoke wheel with 5-pairs of spokes.
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This is true.












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8621487[/url]]Technically: if you take a 5-spoke wheel and cut the middle of each spoke you end up with a 10-spoke wheel with 5-pairs of spokes.
Exactly! That’s why I never had confidence I was looking at the right wheel online.
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Another member from this forum recommended a British website where he ordered a set of wheels and said he was very happy. They're WAY cheaper than dealer pricing or anything else I've seen online for new wheels - $819 for one wheel, $3,385 for a set of four. 19" AMG 5 Twin Spoke wheels in 7X21 High Sheen with Titanium/Himalaya Grey - Alloy Wheels Direct (3975657)
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So they wetsanded and polished the wheel and it looks great now. Guy was still a jerk about it, but all is well that ends well.
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