Mason.Safari

Hi All
a newbie here ... so after all , finally I decided to go ahead and commit to buy this 2016 S500 ( here in Sydney) 38KM (62K km) ... I think is equivalent S550 in US ?

There is not very clarity which options this one has... it has the message seat...has the MBC...seems has AMG wheels ... so how/ where can I find out which packages it has exactly ? also it seems the tires are run flat 20" ... can you please confirm from pictures?

also It should be pre facelift as its 2016 models ( built June 2016) ) , but the dealer said it has facelift , can you please confirm?

I am very exited as I loved S classes since I remember and now I ( almost) have one ...I need all advised I can get how to look after it and if I need to do anything ?

I have attached the 2 picture I have also the ad.pdf

Thanks in advance
Mason

waterzap99

2016 is pre facelift. Also the facelift cars have 9 speed transmissions.
Probably are run flats, look at the name of the Pirelli and look up the tire on sites like tirerack. Will tell you if it is runflat.
In the US you can pull the original window sticker and see the packages. Not sure where you are.

C Swenson

Ask the dealer/seller for the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) and use this site: https://mb.vin/

Mason.Safari

Thanks, I am in Australia ( Sydney)

Mason.Safari

Thanks, I am in Australia ( Sydney)

Mason.Safari

Thanks I have the Vin... I tried the link.. its a bit suspicious goes to another website ( Bumper) and then ask for money !? is it safe ? should I pay ?

carlosinseattle

Here's the site I use for checking out the options: https://www.mbdecoder.com/

C Swenson

When I go the site it does not do any of that. No redirect, no money asked for. What is your VIN?

Mason.Safari

WDD2220822A282048

Mason.Safari

Thanks, it worked ... there are many items mentioned in the equipment ... I searched for package word and got below : not sure if all are mentioned or if they are extra ... for example this car has driver seat message as well , shouldn't this be as part of comfort package ?

AMG SPORT PACKAGE PLUS
AIR QUALITY PACKAGE
KEYLESS-GO PACKAGE
DRIVING ASSISTANCE PACKAGE PLUS
LIGHT PACKAGE (FFO)
PARKING PACKAGE
THEFT PROTECTION PACKAGE
AMG SPORTS PACKAGE
FRONT MEMORY PACKAGE
MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT

all equipment mentioned there are attached to the pdf :

Mason.Safari

now I am confused ... as this model built is June 2016 it should have 7 speed transmission but in few database searched with Vin and its actually 9 speed ... as in the pdf it says 421 9-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
finding something even stranger ... 807 CHANGE OF MODEL YEAR, THE LAST FIGURE SHOWING THE NEW MODEL YEAR ... i did some research and it seems it confirms this is mode 2017 ( because of code 807) ? what does that mean if it is 2017 models then it has 9 speed and face lift ? but I saw the tag on car says built June 2016 ???

C Swenson

Think it through.
Right now in September of 2023, you can purchase a new 2024 Mercedes (that was built this year).
Your prospective 2017 was built in June 2016. My 2015 S550 was built in November of 2014. Make sense?

Streamliner

Interesting that option No. 487 shows as Active Body Control, while in the USA, 487 is Magic Body Control. I wonder if is indeed ABC or MBC? Either way, both are fabulous suspension options. Looks to be a great car!

Mason.Safari

fair enough, but then do I have 2016 model or 2017 ? Do I have face lift version or pre facelift ?
If I have 2016 model then how do I have 9 speed transmission?

Mason.Safari

I think I saw ABC ...i thought for MBC , it will still is ABC switch in the car ?

Streamliner

Now about a photo of the front of the car? We can tell you in a minute if it is a face lift model or not.

Streamliner

There os no “button” marked ABC or MBC. The only way to tell is if when you change driving modes, if “CURVE” is shown. If it is, you have MBC.

C Swenson

This isn't rocket science. No fault of yours, however. Your dealer is simply an idiot.

The car you are looking to buy is a 2017 S500 that was built in June of 2016 as I tried to explain above.
It is not a facelift vehicle as you can see in the photos. Compare these pictures with pictures of the 2018 S-Class. https://www.motor1.com/news/142855/2...-spot-changes/
It has a 9G-Tronic transmission. 2017 was the first year these transmissions were available in the S-Class.

From the ad you posted:

Not a 2016 S500. Doesn't have a 7G-Tronic transmission. Again, your dealer is an idiot. Mum's the word. He deserves to sell it to you thinking it's a 2016.

Mason.Safari

Thanks, I think I am happy so the value should be hopefully higher as now it is 2017 model? I was told the car had facelift and 7G ...seems both wrong , it has no facelift and also 9G... I think I like pre facelift when I compared ( more unique and class maybe) ... but I thought all S500/ S550 has 9G are after facelift it seems 2017 was exception ...but from the picture in the link for pre after facelift...I am sure I have the newer steering wheel ...maybe because its AMG or sport ?

Mason.Safari

so all of them ( ABC and MBC) have the ABC switch ... I tried it when it was off it said sport mode or something ... which one is better , I guess MBC, right?