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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 05:13 PM
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Why no yellow/amber rear turning signal light in the US...?

OK, I can "understand" some of the differences in the S-Class in the US...

However, I do not understand why the yellow/amber rear turn signal light is not on the US version...?
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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 05:47 PM
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Yep, I'm right there with you... there's no good reason, at least not that I've come across. [shrug]
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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 05:58 PM
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Because it's legal in the USA and based on an interview I once read, car designers prefer all red taillights, because it's cleaner. It also lowers component costs and car makers don't wanna stray from the herd as it could open them up to potential litigation They'd probably be red in Europe, too if it was legal.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/d...ave-to-be-red/
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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Because it's legal in the USA and based on an interview I once read, car designers prefer all red taillights, because it's cleaner. It also lowers component costs and car makers don't wanna stray from the herd as it could open them up to potential litigation They'd probably be red in Europe, too if it was legal.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/d...ave-to-be-red/
Some car designers might prefer all red taillights - but I bet if you took a poll of car buyers (that care) you would get a different answer...?

A yellow/amber turn signal is a lot more noticeable in a sea of red taillights head of you.

And it seems to me that it would lower costs to not have to design and manufacture two different kinds of taillights for the same car...?

Just my .02
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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by polo1
Some car designers might prefer all red taillights - but I bet if you took a poll of car buyers (that care) you would get a different answer...?

A yellow/amber turn signal is a lot more noticeable in a sea of red taillights head of you.

And it seems to me that it would lower costs to not have to design and manufacture two different kinds of taillights for the same car...?

Just my .02
All valid points, but I think the cost factor is more nuanced. Each market has its own pricing strategy and there are homologation costs, so while there is an increased cost of having to design two parts, the ongoing lower production costs for an all red taillight will ultimately outweigh that. Cars in the USA are cheaper than in Europe, so if they can save on parts cost that will add up over 1000s of cars and I'm not sure they actually design different lights. It's just the color of plastic and the bulb that is different.
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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 07:27 PM
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I guess what makes it rather silly, to me, is that they have the clear/white outline on the rear taillights - but they don't use them for the turn signals...

Just really strange...

But I guess you can get some of them coded (by BenzNinja?) so they do work...?
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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 07:27 PM
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I totally agree, I prefer amber turn signals. We also have the technology now to have a turn signal that appears red, and then flashes amber...

For example the new Range Rovers, the lights are red but in Europe they flash amber...in the US they flash red!
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Old Jan 19, 2024 | 11:59 AM
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So, been doing some "research"...

There appears to be conflicting information regarding whether or not the US taillights on the S-Class have yellow/amber LEDs in them - in the clear/white turn signal part of them - or if they are just left blank with no yellow/amber LEDs...

Anyone have any definitive answer...?

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Old Jan 19, 2024 | 12:33 PM
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They are red, not amber.
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Old Jan 19, 2024 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
They are red, not amber.
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Old Jan 19, 2024 | 12:55 PM
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Those are the reverse lights
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Old Jan 19, 2024 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Those are the reverse lights
They are also the yellow/amber turning signal lights in other countries other than the US.
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Old Jan 19, 2024 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by polo1
They are also the yellow/amber turning signal lights in other countries other than the US.
On my car, in the UK they are the white lense but amber when indicating, the front white daylight running lights also change to amber colour when indicating.
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Old Jan 19, 2024 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by polo1
They are also the yellow/amber turning signal lights in other countries other than the US.
We're in the US though
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Originally Posted by roviw1
On my car, in the UK they are the white lense but amber when indicating, the front white daylight running lights also change to amber colour when indicating.
Front white DRLs in the US turn to amber when indicating also
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Originally Posted by SW20S
We're in the US though
Right...

That's the whole point of this thread

The US not getting the yellow/amber rear turn signals - when everyone(?) else does.
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Originally Posted by polo1
Right...

That's the whole point of this thread

The US not getting the yellow/amber rear turn signals - when everyone(?) else does.
Like I said, no clue why they do that...but they do. It may be because of a US regulation that requires the reverse lights not to be interrupted by the turn signals?
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Old Mar 21, 2024 | 08:58 PM
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I thought I saw new MBs started having amber turn signals so whatever the reason MBUSA decided prior to 2021(?) 2022(?) model year was resolved(?) and now they put amber turn signals like Europe or otherwise the rest of the world.
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Yes, the current W223 S-Class has flashing only amber rear turn signals in the US. I believe that only the Maybach animates them when turning like you see when you arm the alarm on the standard S-Class. Thought I saw that the standard W223 S-Class's can be animated through aftermarket coding though.

I tried to see if our W222 had amber LED's along with the white LED's on the circuit board, but couldn't see far enough up into them from the exterior.

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