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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 01:27 PM
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Is this what the appropriate coolant level should be in the reservoir? I intermittently get an alert to check coolant level, have changed the reservoir but issue still persists.
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 01:40 PM
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seems like we are on on the coolant band wagon today...LOL
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 02:14 PM
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false positive

To save your time, use a scanner to read your chassis faults. You'll see what module is calling what faults...
Coolant level does NOT look low!

Having a new tank already perhaps the sensor itself failed and soaked the connector.
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 05:59 PM
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Looks like you have some white crusty stuff on the threads for the cap ... that's an indication of coolant leaking.

I had this on my car and just got an $8 replacement cap on Amazon. Haven't seen any more messages or had to add any coolant since
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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 10:38 AM
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thanks for the clarification - can I top it off with distilled or de-ionized water until the new cap comes in?
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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 11:32 AM
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Yes a top off with water will be fine.
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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 01:29 PM
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SOLVING COOLANT... solenoid !!!

difference between A and B... lost coolant
difference between A and B... lost coolant

Back when my engine was 10Mi old it started venting coolant already...

the issue with coolant and oil leaks is not exactly WHERE it leaks but WHY does it have to leak?

As soon as one weak spot is plugged up, the next one opens up... wild goose chase!

Your M176 engine has just been identified as using low oil pressure: this overheats the engine coolant, engine oil plus tranny oil simply driving around.

This stored heat causes extreme heatsoaks when the engine is stopped... coolant circuit gets under extreme pressure and is forced to vent out.

So resolve to fix the cause not the dozen consequences.



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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 03:32 PM
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I am gonna politely call BS on that. I've seen you post a lot of wild speculation about the "oil pump mod" and when it comes to cooling and "heat soak" - to be gentle, you are way out over your skiis.

It's the job of the *coolant* and the cooling system to keep the car's motor from running too hot. Yes the oiling system does also carry some heat as well but running the oil pump at lower speeds is not going cause "heat soak", overheated motors and a general "the sky is falling" scenario. I have a much more powerful motor (M157) in a larger car that of course generates more heat than a V6. I have not noticed ANY issues related to heat of any kind. It doesn't heat my garage any more than another other car I have owner and it still performed flawlessly on a trip this summer down to the mountains of NC. Triple digit passes on Route 81 in triple digit heat caused no more drama or stress than they do in lower temps. The motor behaved flawlessly.

The OP is not losing coolant because he didn't bypass the oil pump solenoid. Please don't sow fear where none is needed.


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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 04:01 PM
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don't change a thing...

Originally Posted by TripleDown
I am gonna politely call BS on that. I've seen you post a lot of wild speculation about the "oil pump mod" and when it comes to cooling and "heat soak" and to be gentle, you are way out over your skiis.

It's the job of the *coolant* and the cooling system to keep the car's motor from running too hot. Yes the oiling system does also carry some heat as well but running the oil pump at lower speeds is not going cause "heat soak", overheated motors and a general "the sky is falling" scenario. I have a much more powerful motor (M157) in a larger car that of course generates more heat than a V6. I have not noticed ANY issues related to heat of any kind. It doesn't heat my garage any more than another other car I have owner and it still performed flawlessly on a trip this summer down to the mountains of NC. Triple digit passes on Route 81 in triple digit heat caused no more drama or stress than they do in lower temps. The motor behaved flawlessly.

The OP is not losing coolant because he didn't bypass the oil pump solenoid. Please don't sow fear where none is needed.
TD, I am going to politely consider your message as well.

You don't need to do anything to your stock engine to get the standard ownership experience.
Everything is carefully engineered with excellent results.

I suggest you service engine oil before 5kMi (not 10kMi!) and while you're at it notice how fast it becomes black...

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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 04:23 PM
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Then please explain how the OPs coolant loss is related to not having done the oil pump mod ? That was, I believe was the point of your post, no ?

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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 04:47 PM
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Let's keep it calm

That bootle is low, full is at the level that the white part ends. Also it's normal for level to variate a bit from cold to hot as coolant expands (hence the name expansion tank) but if you notice you are loosing coolant that cap does look like it needs replacement.

On the oil control solenoid, that's a whole debate but you'd blow the engine before you evaporate coolant so no need to worry about that being related to this.
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Originally Posted by VII
That bootle is low, full is at the level that the white part ends. Also it's normal for level to variate a bit from cold to hot as coolant expands (hence the name expansion tank) but if you notice you are loosing coolant that cap does look like it needs replacement.

On the oil control solenoid, that's a whole debate but you'd blow the engine before you evaporate coolant so no need to worry about that being related to this.
Agreed!
No need to reflect ignorance with insults.
Thank you.


​​​​​​The usual list of WHERE coolant pressure is going to leak is this :
  1. coolant cap
  2. coolant tank split up
  3. radiator crimps
  4. pipes o-rings
  5. heat exchanger gasket: MAYO!
  6. (heater core)
  7. turbo inter-cooler
  8. ....

The reason WHY coolant gets overpressured after engine stop is the extreme heat stored in pistons. That's what reduced oiling does.
before solenoid valve has a chance to jam it is used to restrict pump pressure while driving under 3500.Rpm. .... limited heat transfer.


> Bonus Saver:
check your Camshaft Position Sensors for "oil-in-harness" - Oily ECU gets killed by heatsoaks: cool $10k repair.


> All Good Choices....:
-1- You can be proactive: cancel "root cause"
or
-2- You can be reactive: "life is fun!"

"damn the torpedoes" hit & miss can benefit from superior Mercedes warranty.



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Old Dec 12, 2024 | 09:50 PM
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thank you all for your input, changed the reservoir cap and have not had any issues since
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Old Dec 13, 2024 | 10:20 AM
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That's a win when you can fix something on an S-class with just a $6 cap!
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