Likes, dislikes & hopes on W223........
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I believe it is self fulfilling: the dealers only order black, white & grey shades, so customers have little choice. Since most folks just buy off the lot and don’t order, they most always end up with black, white or grey. I believe that MB is to blame as well as they really don’t offer much of anything really interesting color wise. Looking forward to seeing what some folks do with the Designo Manufaktur program, but it may end up being way too pricey and take way too long for most customers.
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Obviously these things are just subjective, but the W223 just doesn’t appeal to me the way the W222 does, it just doesn’t stand out to me in any way...derivative, almost? Don’t know what it is.
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I like both the W222 and the W223. The W222 is the nicest S class since the much loved W126. The W223 is a sleeker, more modern version of the W222 and I like the W223 is way ahead of it's Audi and BMW rivals.
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I believe it is self fulfilling: the dealers only order black, white & grey shades, so customers have little choice. Since most folks just buy off the lot and don’t order, they most always end up with black, white or grey. I believe that MB is to blame as well as they really don’t offer much of anything really interesting color wise. Looking forward to seeing what some folks do with the Designo Manufaktur program, but it may end up being way too pricey and take way too long for most customers.
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I don't dislike it, but I don't love it. I think the A8 and the 7 Series are both really attractive cars, and while I think the W222 is the best looking out of the three, looking at the W223 sitting alongside them there I just don't feel the same way.
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This is true, but it goes back to what I've always said about dealerships needing people who are brand enthusiasts vs just all salesmen. They stock what sells and what sells is what is in stock so yes you're exactly right. If they would stock those colorful combinations, provided they have a stock person with taste, they would sell IMO. I would love to have that position at a dealership, but you'd be out on your *** if those special order cars don't sell lol. Mercedes has so many wonder colors for interiors and exteriors and convertible tops, but oh well. M
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To happily own a black car, you have to be a “glass half full” type of guy. Being a “glass half empty” type myself, I can’t deal with a black car. Everything and anything will mark the paint. Take it to the car wash and an hour later, it looks dirty. I do agree that an S Class looks great in black, when perfectly clean and polished, but very few people are willing to maintain their black cars in such a manner, so most end up looking shabby, with swirls and imperfections everywhere.
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I just don't agree, to me the W223 just doesnt stand out as clearly a Mercedes, and clearly an S Class the way the W222 does.
I don't dislike it, but I don't love it. I think the A8 and the 7 Series are both really attractive cars, and while I think the W222 is the best looking out of the three, looking at the W223 sitting alongside them there I just don't feel the same way.
I don't dislike it, but I don't love it. I think the A8 and the 7 Series are both really attractive cars, and while I think the W222 is the best looking out of the three, looking at the W223 sitting alongside them there I just don't feel the same way.
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I just don't agree, to me the W223 just doesnt stand out as clearly a Mercedes, and clearly an S Class the way the W222 does.
I don't dislike it, but I don't love it. I think the A8 and the 7 Series are both really attractive cars, and while I think the W222 is the best looking out of the three, looking at the W223 sitting alongside them there I just don't feel the same way.
I don't dislike it, but I don't love it. I think the A8 and the 7 Series are both really attractive cars, and while I think the W222 is the best looking out of the three, looking at the W223 sitting alongside them there I just don't feel the same way.
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Coincidently, the S-Class top color has always been black (all types of black combined) and stands out from other cars which are predominantly white.
Here is a summary from a study by BASF, world's 2nd largest provider of automotive paints (after PPG).
https://www.basf.com/global/en/media.../p-19-106.html
Here is a summary from a study by BASF, world's 2nd largest provider of automotive paints (after PPG).
https://www.basf.com/global/en/media.../p-19-106.html
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I just don't agree, to me the W223 just doesnt stand out as clearly a Mercedes, and clearly an S Class the way the W222 does.
I don't dislike it, but I don't love it. I think the A8 and the 7 Series are both really attractive cars, and while I think the W222 is the best looking out of the three, looking at the W223 sitting alongside them there I just don't feel the same way.
I don't dislike it, but I don't love it. I think the A8 and the 7 Series are both really attractive cars, and while I think the W222 is the best looking out of the three, looking at the W223 sitting alongside them there I just don't feel the same way.
I will hold my final opinion until I have seen the car in the flesh, inside and out and have driven it.
It is worth noting that the W223 is larger than the W222. Width increased by a touch over 2 inches (which is sizable) and so has the length and wheelbase by the same amount.
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Quite the opposite for me but pictures can only go so far.
I will hold my final opinion until I have seen the car in the flesh, inside and out and have driven it.
It is worth noting that the W223 is larger than the W222. Width increased by a touch over 2 inches (which is sizable) and so has the length and wheelbase by the same amount.
I will hold my final opinion until I have seen the car in the flesh, inside and out and have driven it.
It is worth noting that the W223 is larger than the W222. Width increased by a touch over 2 inches (which is sizable) and so has the length and wheelbase by the same amount.
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This is true, but it goes back to what I've always said about dealerships needing people who are brand enthusiasts vs just all salesmen. They stock what sells and what sells is what is in stock so yes you're exactly right. If they would stock those colorful combinations, provided they have a stock person with taste, they would sell IMO. I would love to have that position at a dealership, but you'd be out on your *** if those special order cars don't sell lol. Mercedes has so many wonder colors for interiors and exteriors and convertible tops, but oh well.
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I always ask about color preference with my clients and it almost always comes down to Black, White or Gray. For the few that really do go their own way ordering a car is the way to go.
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Sorry, you are wrong. As someone who has ordered cars for stock the overwhelming number of buyers are quite unimaginative in their color choices. With flooring costs being what they are and profit margins as thin as they are one cannot tie up hundreds of thousands of dollars in cars that the majority don't want.
I always ask about color preference with my clients and it almost always comes down to Black, White or Gray. For the few that really do go their own way ordering a car is the way to go.
I always ask about color preference with my clients and it almost always comes down to Black, White or Gray. For the few that really do go their own way ordering a car is the way to go.
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Nice move. I might end up moving to an Alpina Blue/Tartufo B7 next year when my lease is up. Not doing grey, black or white.
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But...
They're in a league of their own, when it comes to effortlessness, waftability and post-opulence.
Check out the new Ghost and its Planar suspension.
You'll be amazed.
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Not sure what that has to do with my opinion about the styling. There are definitely people out there who prefer the looks of the Audi and the BMW even to the W222. Those things are subjective, they can't be quantified and they can't be right or wrong.
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At this point its just less apparent as both have been refreshed...
The Planar system appears to be similar to the current 7 series tech plus the upper wishbone dampers. I am sure it offers an amazingly smooth ride...
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