My new 2021 S580 is on its way to Daddy
#76
There is a lot of unknown stuff like when they will arrive, MPG, and stuff. Glad we are here to support each other while we wait. Looking forward to hearing from actual owners, especially about the rear wheel steering. My scheduled build date was July D1 but was moved to July D3. I'll have to find something to distract me for 3 more months. I waited almost as long after I ordered my GLE450 and stressed that there might be issues, there wasn't any.
#77
Senior Member
Looking at all the standard and options, the car should be great, the main reason I bought this big car is the rear steering! I presently own a 2019 Cadillac CT6 Platinum with rear steering, I think it's only 3 or 3.5 degrees rear steering though, the car drives like it's a smaller model. It's 205" long, when I picked it up and starting driving I kept looking out back because it felt much smaller! Someone mentioned it in another tread, I think they are right, June 1, 2021 release date. On one of the New York dealers sites they show car manufactured and waiting to ship, car in route and cars at VPC in their inventory. This wait shouldn't affect you or me, mine shouldn't be in the states before 06/01. I think your looking at over 3 months?
I see your avatar is VEGAS BENZ, my cousin lives in Henderson.
I see your avatar is VEGAS BENZ, my cousin lives in Henderson.
#78
#79
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Looking at all the standard and options, the car should be great, the main reason I bought this big car is the rear steering! I presently own a 2019 Cadillac CT6 Platinum with rear steering, I think it's only 3 or 3.5 degrees rear steering though, the car drives like it's a smaller model. It's 205" long, when I picked it up and starting driving I kept looking out back because it felt much smaller! Someone mentioned it in another tread, I think they are right, June 1, 2021 release date. On one of the New York dealers sites they show car manufactured and waiting to ship, car in route and cars at VPC in their inventory. This wait shouldn't affect you or me, mine shouldn't be in the states before 06/01. I think your looking at over 3 months?
I see your avatar is VEGAS BENZ, my cousin lives in Henderson.
I see your avatar is VEGAS BENZ, my cousin lives in Henderson.
So I’m curious you ordered only the 4.5 deg steering instead of 10 deg (code 216). Especially since your wheels are 20”, which allow code 216, so you could of ordered the 10 deg ( only 21” wheels are limited to 4.5 deg).
#81
Super Member
Then again, maybe you can’t order it in US configurations; if that’s the case, too bad, because technically it’s possible, and maybe just a marketing thing,,,, go figure
#82
2021 Mercedes-Benz S-Class Sedan Quick Reference Guide
- AMG Line
- AMG Body Styling, AMG Floor Mats, AMG Wheels
- Optional Feature Highlights include:
- Night Package
- 4.5-Degree Rear-Axle Steering
- Burmester® High-End 4D Surround System
- 3D Technology Package with 3D Instrument Cluster and MBUX Augmented Reality Head- Up Display (AR-HUD)
- Warmth & Comfort Package with Heated Steering Wheel, Heated Front and Rear Armrests, Rear Seat Heating, Electronic Rear Seats with Memory, and ENERGIZING Comfort health and wellness system that boosts drivers' attentiveness and well-being while reducing sleepiness and stress
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Exclusive Nappa Leather Upholstery
- Choice of high-end Trim Options
- 20" and 21" AMG Multispoke Wheels and AMG Multispoke Wheels with black inlays (with Night Package)
- Executive Line (exclusively available for S 580 4MATIC Sedan)
- Active Multicontour Rear Seats with luxurious Easy Adjust Headrests with occupant restraint protection, and neck and shoulder heating
- Electric Adjustable Rear Seats
- Rear Passenger Airbag and Rear Beltbags
- 4-Zone Climate Control
- Rear ENERGIZING Comfort Package
- MBUX Rear Tablet and 2 Wireless Headsets
- Rear Wireless Charging
- MBUX High-End Rear Seat Entertainment system with two integrated high-resolution 11.6" touchscreens with full-HD camera and microphone, allowing each user to integrate their own media through various interfaces, creating a personalized experience with the option to interact and share content with other passengers
- Warmth & Comfort Package with Heated Steering Wheel, Heated Front and Rear Armrests, Rear Seat Heating, Electronic Rear Seats with Memory, and ENERGIZING Comfort health and wellness system that boosts drivers' attentiveness and well-being while reducing sleepiness and stress
- 10-Degree Rear Axle Steering
- Optional Feature Highlights include:
- Exclusive Nappa Leather upholstery
- Burmester® High-End 4D Surround System
- 3D Technology Package with 3D Instrument Cluster and MBUX Augmented Reality Head- Up Display (AR-HUD)
- Choice of high-end Trim Options
- 20" 10-Spoke Wheels
#83
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From MBUSA:
2021 Mercedes-Benz S-Class Sedan Quick Reference Guide
- AMG Line
- AMG Body Styling, AMG Floor Mats, AMG Wheels
- Optional Feature Highlights include:
- Night Package
- 4.5-Degree Rear-Axle Steering
- Burmester® High-End 4D Surround System
- 3D Technology Package with 3D Instrument Cluster and MBUX Augmented Reality Head- Up Display (AR-HUD)
- Warmth & Comfort Package with Heated Steering Wheel, Heated Front and Rear Armrests, Rear Seat Heating, Electronic Rear Seats with Memory, and ENERGIZING Comfort health and wellness system that boosts drivers' attentiveness and well-being while reducing sleepiness and stress
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Exclusive Nappa Leather Upholstery
- Choice of high-end Trim Options
- 20" and 21" AMG Multispoke Wheels and AMG Multispoke Wheels with black inlays (with Night Package)
- Executive Line (exclusively available for S 580 4MATIC Sedan)
- Active Multicontour Rear Seats with luxurious Easy Adjust Headrests with occupant restraint protection, and neck and shoulder heating
- Electric Adjustable Rear Seats
- Rear Passenger Airbag and Rear Beltbags
- 4-Zone Climate Control
- Rear ENERGIZING Comfort Package
- MBUX Rear Tablet and 2 Wireless Headsets
- Rear Wireless Charging
- MBUX High-End Rear Seat Entertainment system with two integrated high-resolution 11.6" touchscreens with full-HD camera and microphone, allowing each user to integrate their own media through various interfaces, creating a personalized experience with the option to interact and share content with other passengers
- Warmth & Comfort Package with Heated Steering Wheel, Heated Front and Rear Armrests, Rear Seat Heating, Electronic Rear Seats with Memory, and ENERGIZING Comfort health and wellness system that boosts drivers' attentiveness and well-being while reducing sleepiness and stress
- 10-Degree Rear Axle Steering
- Optional Feature Highlights include:
- Exclusive Nappa Leather upholstery
- Burmester® High-End 4D Surround System
- 3D Technology Package with 3D Instrument Cluster and MBUX Augmented Reality Head- Up Display (AR-HUD)
- Choice of high-end Trim Options
- 20" 10-Spoke Wheels
#84
Senior Member
I believe you are right! I went on the German website and could configure 4.5 or 10, in the U.S. Luxury show no rear steering, AMG 4.5 and Executive 10 just as your post states. It may have to do with street widths? When I was in Germany I did notice how narrow some of the street were in some of the cities. Like I said, my Cadillac only has 3 - 3.5 degree, so 4.5 is obviously better. So Vegas Benz, are you in the U.S?
#85
Super Member
I believe you are right! I went on the German website and could configure 4.5 or 10, in the U.S. Luxury show no rear steering, AMG 4.5 and Executive 10 just as your post states. It may have to do with street widths? When I was in Germany I did notice how narrow some of the street were in some of the cities. Like I said, my Cadillac only has 3 - 3.5 degree, so 4.5 is obviously better. So Vegas Benz, are you in the U.S?
I don’t think it’s a street width issue because you can still order 10 deg in US in Exec Line config.
Also, its interesting your main criteria was rear wheel steering yet you prioritized AMG line above the 10 deg.
Last edited by Sonic Boom; 05-11-2021 at 09:19 AM.
#86
Senior Member
I'm an old gear head so the AMG Styling peaks my interest more than the other two. The 3.5 on my Caddy is really great, the 4.5 should be better. In a perfect world you would get everything you wanted, unfortunately in this world there are trade offs, I'm happy with my choices, we'll see when the rubber meets the road!
#87
Super Member
I tried to format your build to better see the breakdown. Looks like NO surprises. My build is just a little different and is a 2022, but I expect similar numbers. Nothing was priced, but I see there are a LOT of codes and only some are added amounts.
Congratulations! I would assume it is ready to deliver to you when the cars are released. I am hoping mine is not delayed by any parts shortages. I hope it's everything you expect!
(your build with each option one a separate line)
MODEL: 2021 S580V4 $116,300
859 Mojave Silver Metallic
504 Sienna Brown/ Black Exclusive Nappa Leather $3,110
Options
DB0 DB0 Warmth and Comfort Package: Heated Steering Wheel, Power Outboard $3,800
PBS Energizing Package
P69 Warmth Comfort Package
223 Power Rear Seats
276 Rear Memory Seats
402 Ventilated Rear Seats
443 Heated Steering Wheel
903 Seat Heating in the Rear Seat
906 Front Heated Armrests
907 Rear Heated Armrests
DC1 DC1 Night Package: Front Splitter and Fins in the air intakes in $400
P55 Night Package
DF0 DF0 3D Technology Package: MBUX Augmented Reality Head-Up Display, $3,000
445 MBUX Augmented Reality Head-up Display
451 3D Instrument Cluster
DG3 DG3 AMG Line: AMG® Wheels and Sport Body styling (Front and Rear $4,300
U26 AMG Floormats
772 AMG Body styling
951 Sport Package Code
DX1 DX1 AMG Line
D6G Tracking Code Custom Options 2
B05 Chrome Plated Handle
D07 Wheel Locking Bolts $150
D10 Rear Spoiler, Body Color $500
D28 Comfort Box $350
H37 Slate High-Gloss Poplar Wood trim
LS1 factory code - tbd
L2B Nappa Leather Steering Wheel
PZV factory code
P34 Exclusive Package
RVR 20" AMG Multispoke Wheels with Black Inlays $950
R02 All Season Tires
R06 High Performance Tires
R8N Factory Code
0B3 G Class Code
0U3 TBD 00V tax code
085 factory code
1B4 Factory Code
194 ** PRICE NOT ON FILE **
201 Rear-Axle Steering 4.5 Degree $1,300
3B1 Factory Code 6
P5 Factory Code
61U Black DINAMICA Headliner
7B8 UWB Module
735 Exclusive Trim Package
8B2 tax code
94B tax code
SUBTOTAL $134,160 DESTINATION &DELIVERY $1,050
TOTAL $135,210
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Congratulations! I would assume it is ready to deliver to you when the cars are released. I am hoping mine is not delayed by any parts shortages. I hope it's everything you expect!
(your build with each option one a separate line)
MODEL: 2021 S580V4 $116,300
859 Mojave Silver Metallic
504 Sienna Brown/ Black Exclusive Nappa Leather $3,110
Options
DB0 DB0 Warmth and Comfort Package: Heated Steering Wheel, Power Outboard $3,800
PBS Energizing Package
P69 Warmth Comfort Package
223 Power Rear Seats
276 Rear Memory Seats
402 Ventilated Rear Seats
443 Heated Steering Wheel
903 Seat Heating in the Rear Seat
906 Front Heated Armrests
907 Rear Heated Armrests
DC1 DC1 Night Package: Front Splitter and Fins in the air intakes in $400
P55 Night Package
DF0 DF0 3D Technology Package: MBUX Augmented Reality Head-Up Display, $3,000
445 MBUX Augmented Reality Head-up Display
451 3D Instrument Cluster
DG3 DG3 AMG Line: AMG® Wheels and Sport Body styling (Front and Rear $4,300
U26 AMG Floormats
772 AMG Body styling
951 Sport Package Code
DX1 DX1 AMG Line
D6G Tracking Code Custom Options 2
B05 Chrome Plated Handle
D07 Wheel Locking Bolts $150
D10 Rear Spoiler, Body Color $500
D28 Comfort Box $350
H37 Slate High-Gloss Poplar Wood trim
LS1 factory code - tbd
L2B Nappa Leather Steering Wheel
PZV factory code
P34 Exclusive Package
RVR 20" AMG Multispoke Wheels with Black Inlays $950
R02 All Season Tires
R06 High Performance Tires
R8N Factory Code
0B3 G Class Code
0U3 TBD 00V tax code
085 factory code
1B4 Factory Code
194 ** PRICE NOT ON FILE **
201 Rear-Axle Steering 4.5 Degree $1,300
3B1 Factory Code 6
P5 Factory Code
61U Black DINAMICA Headliner
7B8 UWB Module
735 Exclusive Trim Package
8B2 tax code
94B tax code
SUBTOTAL $134,160 DESTINATION &DELIVERY $1,050
TOTAL $135,210
05.10.2021 14.28.30
Standard, Burmester 3D (810), or 4D (811)?
If its AMG Package I assume 4D (but not listed anywhere in post(s)).
#88
Senior Member
Standard 3D, the 4D is around $7,000.00. I have the 3D in my cabriolet, it's a good sound system, I believe the sedan uses a couple more speakers? The 4D has to be awesome, just felt I didn't need it?
#89
Super Member
I’ll et you know if it was worth it once I take delivery soon hopefully.
#90
Senior Member
It should be awesome. I remember many years ago being in a lounge and passing the stage, the sound was so loud with mega base I could feel all my internal organs moving! I think this gives you the same feeling? I can almost see you cruising the highways and byways, stereo cranked up and living the good life. The car will be here in no time!
#91
Super Member
It should be awesome. I remember many years ago being in a lounge and passing the stage, the sound was so loud with mega base I could feel all my internal organs moving! I think this gives you the same feeling? I can almost see you cruising the highways and byways, stereo cranked up and living the good life. The car will be here in no time!
#92
Senior Member
According to my dealer my 2021 S580 was shipped on the Apollon Highway which made port in Brunswick, GA. late last night. Let's see how long it will sit before being loaded on a truck and head West? When they finally updated MB North America's website and showed the S500 and S580 without a price, not sure if all the options were included. They recently added the 2021 Maybach also no price, with not many options. I would think once the price goes up on their website that would be a indicator for a release date?
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My salesman picked up an A-Class from the Baltimore Port last week and reported that a large section of S-Class' that were previously there were now gone. Maybe MBUSA if getting ready?
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I am so very disappointed in my new S580. I knew that I couldn't have my must have optons of HUD and variable tinted glass in sunfoof. And I iknew I couldn't have rear tray tables. But I agreed to lease anyway.
Now that I've received it there are multiple real problems:
Tablet in rear to control MBUX doesn't work (already has been in shop for hours with no fix)
Repeated low battery messages (almost daily, then 6 hours in shop and now around once a week)
No internet connection so browser app won't work
Entertainment system has no DVD player (and no internet) so what am I supposed to do with it?
send2benz fails to send to car quite often
driver's seat doesn't always return to previous position when entering car
passenger seat loses it's memory settings
can't connect phone via bluetooth to rear entertainment screens
when connected via usb, picture shown for album playing is not the album pic but a pic of my front garage wall (presumably from the front camera)
this works correctly on front screen when connected by bluetooth
there are other things that I don't like:
Driver's screen can show radio station but not song or show being heard (as on my 2018 S560)
the only way I can see to view this info is to use the large screen which is a terrible waste of screen space
Both driver's and main displays need to be used more efficiently to present more info and more ability to customize
I would prefer the wood steering wheel, but it was no longer an option
The touch screen is OK (but it's greasy all the time) but I hate the flick controls on the steering wheel (and other places)
I much prefer a button that gives feedback
I would be very interested to know if others with this car have similar problems.
Now that I've received it there are multiple real problems:
Tablet in rear to control MBUX doesn't work (already has been in shop for hours with no fix)
Repeated low battery messages (almost daily, then 6 hours in shop and now around once a week)
No internet connection so browser app won't work
Entertainment system has no DVD player (and no internet) so what am I supposed to do with it?
send2benz fails to send to car quite often
driver's seat doesn't always return to previous position when entering car
passenger seat loses it's memory settings
can't connect phone via bluetooth to rear entertainment screens
when connected via usb, picture shown for album playing is not the album pic but a pic of my front garage wall (presumably from the front camera)
this works correctly on front screen when connected by bluetooth
there are other things that I don't like:
Driver's screen can show radio station but not song or show being heard (as on my 2018 S560)
the only way I can see to view this info is to use the large screen which is a terrible waste of screen space
Both driver's and main displays need to be used more efficiently to present more info and more ability to customize
I would prefer the wood steering wheel, but it was no longer an option
The touch screen is OK (but it's greasy all the time) but I hate the flick controls on the steering wheel (and other places)
I much prefer a button that gives feedback
I would be very interested to know if others with this car have similar problems.
#97
I am so very disappointed in my new S580. I knew that I couldn't have my must have optons of HUD and variable tinted glass in sunfoof. And I iknew I couldn't have rear tray tables. But I agreed to lease anyway.
Now that I've received it there are multiple real problems:
Tablet in rear to control MBUX doesn't work (already has been in shop for hours with no fix)
Repeated low battery messages (almost daily, then 6 hours in shop and now around once a week)
No internet connection so browser app won't work
Entertainment system has no DVD player (and no internet) so what am I supposed to do with it?
send2benz fails to send to car quite often
driver's seat doesn't always return to previous position when entering car
passenger seat loses it's memory settings
can't connect phone via bluetooth to rear entertainment screens
when connected via usb, picture shown for album playing is not the album pic but a pic of my front garage wall (presumably from the front camera)
this works correctly on front screen when connected by bluetooth
there are other things that I don't like:
Driver's screen can show radio station but not song or show being heard (as on my 2018 S560)
the only way I can see to view this info is to use the large screen which is a terrible waste of screen space
Both driver's and main displays need to be used more efficiently to present more info and more ability to customize
I would prefer the wood steering wheel, but it was no longer an option
The touch screen is OK (but it's greasy all the time) but I hate the flick controls on the steering wheel (and other places)
I much prefer a button that gives feedback
I would be very interested to know if others with this car have similar problems.
Now that I've received it there are multiple real problems:
Tablet in rear to control MBUX doesn't work (already has been in shop for hours with no fix)
Repeated low battery messages (almost daily, then 6 hours in shop and now around once a week)
No internet connection so browser app won't work
Entertainment system has no DVD player (and no internet) so what am I supposed to do with it?
send2benz fails to send to car quite often
driver's seat doesn't always return to previous position when entering car
passenger seat loses it's memory settings
can't connect phone via bluetooth to rear entertainment screens
when connected via usb, picture shown for album playing is not the album pic but a pic of my front garage wall (presumably from the front camera)
this works correctly on front screen when connected by bluetooth
there are other things that I don't like:
Driver's screen can show radio station but not song or show being heard (as on my 2018 S560)
the only way I can see to view this info is to use the large screen which is a terrible waste of screen space
Both driver's and main displays need to be used more efficiently to present more info and more ability to customize
I would prefer the wood steering wheel, but it was no longer an option
The touch screen is OK (but it's greasy all the time) but I hate the flick controls on the steering wheel (and other places)
I much prefer a button that gives feedback
I would be very interested to know if others with this car have similar problems.
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2021 Cirrus Silver S580 AMG, 2020 Polar White GLE350
I have not experienced any of the problems you are having, but I have the S580 AMG version without the rear entertainment features. Blue tooth connectivity works fine as does wireless Apple Car Play. The MBUX driver profile works very well, but the dealer helped set that function up. There are a lot of tech settings and it is easy to turn some off by accident. My wife reported that suddenly the outside mirrors were not folding when she locked the car. I found the feature in settings and turned it back on…back to working properly, but at a loss for how it got switched off. I’m hoping that many of the problems you are experiencing will be resolve with a bit of fine tuning of the multitude of settings. Now, go out and enjoy driving your new car!
#100
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I am so very disappointed in my new S580. I knew that I couldn't have my must have optons of HUD and variable tinted glass in sunfoof. And I iknew I couldn't have rear tray tables. But I agreed to lease anyway.
Now that I've received it there are multiple real problems:
Tablet in rear to control MBUX doesn't work (already has been in shop for hours with no fix)
Repeated low battery messages (almost daily, then 6 hours in shop and now around once a week)
No internet connection so browser app won't work
Entertainment system has no DVD player (and no internet) so what am I supposed to do with it?
send2benz fails to send to car quite often
driver's seat doesn't always return to previous position when entering car
passenger seat loses it's memory settings
can't connect phone via bluetooth to rear entertainment screens
when connected via usb, picture shown for album playing is not the album pic but a pic of my front garage wall (presumably from the front camera)
this works correctly on front screen when connected by bluetooth
there are other things that I don't like:
Driver's screen can show radio station but not song or show being heard (as on my 2018 S560)
the only way I can see to view this info is to use the large screen which is a terrible waste of screen space
Both driver's and main displays need to be used more efficiently to present more info and more ability to customize
I would prefer the wood steering wheel, but it was no longer an option
The touch screen is OK (but it's greasy all the time) but I hate the flick controls on the steering wheel (and other places)
I much prefer a button that gives feedback
I would be very interested to know if others with this car have similar problems.
Now that I've received it there are multiple real problems:
Tablet in rear to control MBUX doesn't work (already has been in shop for hours with no fix)
Repeated low battery messages (almost daily, then 6 hours in shop and now around once a week)
No internet connection so browser app won't work
Entertainment system has no DVD player (and no internet) so what am I supposed to do with it?
send2benz fails to send to car quite often
driver's seat doesn't always return to previous position when entering car
passenger seat loses it's memory settings
can't connect phone via bluetooth to rear entertainment screens
when connected via usb, picture shown for album playing is not the album pic but a pic of my front garage wall (presumably from the front camera)
this works correctly on front screen when connected by bluetooth
there are other things that I don't like:
Driver's screen can show radio station but not song or show being heard (as on my 2018 S560)
the only way I can see to view this info is to use the large screen which is a terrible waste of screen space
Both driver's and main displays need to be used more efficiently to present more info and more ability to customize
I would prefer the wood steering wheel, but it was no longer an option
The touch screen is OK (but it's greasy all the time) but I hate the flick controls on the steering wheel (and other places)
I much prefer a button that gives feedback
I would be very interested to know if others with this car have similar problems.
Regarding fingerprints on central screen, there are screen protectors made specifically “fingerprint proof,” usually found in same place they to ceramic coating/wrap. But they reduce a bit the brightness, so I didn’t go for it. But it’s a matter of taste.