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Old 08-18-2021, 01:19 PM
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Dealerships at MSRP vs. Shameful Upchargers

Let's get a list of dealerships that are at MSRP (and may very well likely give you off MSRP) vs. Dealerships who insist on going forward with this ridiculous upcharging trend.

The more information we as buyers have the more power we have. THERE IS NO S-CLASS SHORTAGE. Each dealership I spoke to had multiple on the lot ane numerous at VPC or en route. Plently also had 2022's at VPC or being built without a customer's name attached to it.

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Mercedes Benz of Massapequa
Benzel-Busch Mercedes
Silver Star Mercedes (+$15k lol)

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Mercedes-Benz Manhattan
Rallye Mercedes
White Plains Mercedes
MB Southampton (Purchased here; few grand off)

Please add to this list by copy pasting it and adding your information.

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Old 08-18-2021, 01:45 PM
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Mercedes Benz of Massapequa
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Mercedes Benz of Naples (Huge upcharges +$10-20k)
Mercedes Benz of Knoxville (+$15k on a couple of them)


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Mercedes-Benz Manhattan
Rallye Mercedes
White Plains Mercedes
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I have to also recommend Park Place here. I have bought close to 10 cars from them and they have NEVER charged above MSRP even for a G63

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Old 08-20-2021, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SB_NYC
Let's get a list of dealerships that are at MSRP (and may very well likely give you off MSRP) vs. Dealerships who insist on going forward with this ridiculous upcharging trend.

The more information we as buyers have the more power we have. THERE IS NO S-CLASS SHORTAGE. Each dealership I spoke to had multiple on the lot ane numerous at VPC or en route. Plently also had 2022's at VPC or being built without a customer's name attached to it.

Upcharge Wall of Shame:
Mercedes Benz of Massapequa
Benzel-Busch Mercedes
Silver Star Mercedes (+$15k lol)

At MSRP:
Mercedes-Benz Manhattan
Rallye Mercedes
White Plains Mercedes

Please add to this list by copy pasting it and adding your information.
Great idea! Thanks for starting this. Maybe if this list gets long enough it should be forwarded to MBUSA.
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Great idea! Thanks for starting this. Maybe if this list gets long enough it should be forwarded to MBUSA.
MBUSA doesn't care.
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Old 08-21-2021, 04:08 PM
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And MBUSA can't do anything about it either. It isn't called "Manufacturer's Suggest Retail Price" for nothing lol.


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Originally Posted by E55Greasemonkey
MBUSA doesn't care.
Originally Posted by Germancar1
And MBUSA can't do anything about it either. It isn't called "Manufacturer's Suggest Retail Price" for nothing lol.


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MBUSA has cracked down on price gouging by dealerships in the past.
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MBUSA has cracked down on price gouging by dealerships in the past.
By doing what? If they're still getting cars and still overcharging then they haven't really done anything. There is only so much that MBUSA can legally do.

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For me, I don't really care if MBUSA does anything to the dealers (which I doubt they will), rather I'd like to have us buyers well informed and steered to the right dealerships. I think this is the best way to reward good faith dealers vs those taking advantage of their customers.

I understand if a dealer marks up a rare vehicle that they only have very few of (G-class or whatever), but the S's are EVERYWHERE. Just do a search on autotrader, cars.com, dealer websites, call around, etc. I am all certain there will be a lot more in the coming weeks as the excitement for the new model tapers down. This is a $120k+ vehicle; these bad faith dealers need to realize that their customers are typically well-informed successful individuals who have some smarts. This isn't a $40k car in high demand.
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Originally Posted by Germancar1
By doing what? If they're still getting cars and still overcharging then they haven't really done anything. There is only so much that MBUSA can legally do.

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I think it was the C197 aka 2nd generation Gullwing price gouging they cracked down on.
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Originally Posted by SB_NYC
For me, I don't really care if MBUSA does anything to the dealers (which I doubt they will), rather I'd like to have us buyers well informed and steered to the right dealerships. I think this is the best way to reward good faith dealers vs those taking advantage of their customers.

I understand if a dealer marks up a rare vehicle that they only have very few of (G-class or whatever), but the S's are EVERYWHERE. Just do a search on autotrader, cars.com, dealer websites, call around, etc. I am all certain there will be a lot more in the coming weeks as the excitement for the new model tapers down. This is a $120k+ vehicle; these bad faith dealers need to realize that their customers are typically well-informed successful individuals who have some smarts. This isn't a $40k car in high demand.
In my world, $40K is still the price of a luxury car and people in the $40K price range are also well informed and not wanting to put up with price gouging either. I certainly wouldn't. I'm glad I'm not in the market for a new car right now. I do think it's important for consumers to hold companies accountable and finding out which dealerships aren't price gouging and doing business with those dealerships is a good step.
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I think it was the C197 aka 2nd generation Gullwing price gouging they cracked down on.
Maybe so, but clearly that meant nothing and didn't do anything going by what they're doing today. There really isn't much MBUSA can do beside cutting allocations and that will wind up in court.

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Originally Posted by SB_NYC
For me, I don't really care if MBUSA does anything to the dealers (which I doubt they will), rather I'd like to have us buyers well informed and steered to the right dealerships. I think this is the best way to reward good faith dealers vs those taking advantage of their customers.

I understand if a dealer marks up a rare vehicle that they only have very few of (G-class or whatever), but the S's are EVERYWHERE. Just do a search on autotrader, cars.com, dealer websites, call around, etc. I am all certain there will be a lot more in the coming weeks as the excitement for the new model tapers down. This is a $120k+ vehicle; these bad faith dealers need to realize that their customers are typically well-informed successful individuals who have some smarts. This isn't a $40k car in high demand.
I agree. Everyone needs to be on the same page and just not pay the markups, but that will never happen. So as long as some are willing to pay this nonsense will continue. Dealers that leave money on the table by NOT doing this should be rewarded with more business for sure. A dealer not doing this shows that at least someone has some integrity a rare thing today.

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Fletcher Jones Mercedes in both Newport Beach and Ontario, CA are asking $10k mark up. BUT, of course if you're a repeat customer or really negotiate you can end up at MSRP....

this is the power of the franchised dealer folks. MBUSA is technically a wholly owned distributor for Mercedes-Benz AG. Only way MB USA can legally fully dictate pricing is if they were to go the direct to consumer route, i.e. Tesla. Yes, MB USA can discourage mark-ups but legally cannot enforce anything.
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Dealerships have a network within themselves that show where you buy cars at. If I bought a car in the city of KNG 2 years ago, then I buy another car or trade a car in the city of RRW, the salesman in KNG immediately sees it. After that, the salesman at KNG probably won't talk to you anymore or certainly won't haggle with you. I found this out at one of my honest dealerships in my state. I won't return to my local MB dealer because of this. It's none of their business where I buy and trade cars.
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Mercedes Benz of Bonita Springs

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Yup went to the Naples dealership and after a test ride talking about prices, the salesman casually says
yes and there's a $20k add on charge. If he told me that in the beginning I would have walked out.
They should tell u that on the website, what a waste of time.

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