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S580e
Hello, I have an s580e on order for which I am excited about. It is projected to be here beginning of next year. However I am also on the list for a G63 and I’m next (that would likely be May arrival).
Can’t have both cars and have to pick one. I’m choosing to post my question in the S section in hopes that someone has direct experience with an S580e. Read plenty of reviews but want more direct info. I chose the s580e to be able ti balance everyday driving and have flexibility between gas and electric to get to work 25 miles each way. I test drove an S500 and it was super comfortable. I’ve test driven the G63 and felt it to be stiffer but not prohibitive at all (so much better than the last gen). Your thoughts are appreciated.
Can’t have both cars and have to pick one. I’m choosing to post my question in the S section in hopes that someone has direct experience with an S580e. Read plenty of reviews but want more direct info. I chose the s580e to be able ti balance everyday driving and have flexibility between gas and electric to get to work 25 miles each way. I test drove an S500 and it was super comfortable. I’ve test driven the G63 and felt it to be stiffer but not prohibitive at all (so much better than the last gen). Your thoughts are appreciated.
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Hello, I have an s580e on order for which I am excited about. It is projected to be here beginning of next year. However I am also on the list for a G63 and I’m next (that would likely be May arrival).
Can’t have both cars and have to pick one. I’m choosing to post my question in the S section in hopes that someone has direct experience with an S580e. Read plenty of reviews but want more direct info. I chose the s580e to be able ti balance everyday driving and have flexibility between gas and electric to get to work 25 miles each way. I test drove an S500 and it was super comfortable. I’ve test driven the G63 and felt it to be stiffer but not prohibitive at all (so much better than the last gen). Your thoughts are appreciated.
Can’t have both cars and have to pick one. I’m choosing to post my question in the S section in hopes that someone has direct experience with an S580e. Read plenty of reviews but want more direct info. I chose the s580e to be able ti balance everyday driving and have flexibility between gas and electric to get to work 25 miles each way. I test drove an S500 and it was super comfortable. I’ve test driven the G63 and felt it to be stiffer but not prohibitive at all (so much better than the last gen). Your thoughts are appreciated.
If you are choosing between the S and the G, it depends on your needs of course, but I would have a hard time not opting for the G. They are truly a unique car unlike any other on the market, and they will hold their value very well.
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Well, I've had an S580e since early this year. Not going to promote one or the other though as I don't have any experience about the G class and personally cannot see how anyone considers the choice between the two. So different cars.
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Didn’t know you had the 580e, I guess your username made me think the opposite!
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They are going to be very, very different vehicles. It is really going to come down to your wants and your needs.
The G 63 has arguably the most road presence of any regularly produced vehicle. It is also a body on frame SUV and as much as you try to refine that setup, it's going to feel truck-like. The rear seat room is also going to be tight for anything beyond small adults and children if they need to be used regularly.
The S-Class is the exact opposite. A relaxing ride that is going to soak up every imperfection. While it will still garner you attention and likely be left out front when you valet, it is a subtle sedan at the end of the day.
The G 63 has arguably the most road presence of any regularly produced vehicle. It is also a body on frame SUV and as much as you try to refine that setup, it's going to feel truck-like. The rear seat room is also going to be tight for anything beyond small adults and children if they need to be used regularly.
The S-Class is the exact opposite. A relaxing ride that is going to soak up every imperfection. While it will still garner you attention and likely be left out front when you valet, it is a subtle sedan at the end of the day.
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I would love to hear your thoughts on your S580e...
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Perhaps after I reach the 2000 mile/one year milestone. On the other hand, there isn't much to report on top of everything that we've seen for the gasoline models and even covering some diesel models.
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Quite embarrassing, isn't it? I would have preferred a diesel but but it would have been more expensive to purchase and a lot more expensive to keep for low miles. Thanks to our tax system.
Perhaps after I reach the 2000 mile/one year milestone. On the other hand, there isn't much to report on top of everything that we've seen for the gasoline models and even covering some diesel models.
Perhaps after I reach the 2000 mile/one year milestone. On the other hand, there isn't much to report on top of everything that we've seen for the gasoline models and even covering some diesel models.
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Hows the combined MPG with the tank filled with gas and the battery charged to full? How often do you fill up gas and how often do you charge it at night? Bimmerpost forums have alot of owners happy with the X5 45e in which the combined mpg is above 30 mpg and people are getting longer ranges between fill up up to 800 miles on a tank of gas and charging every few days at night.
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While I don't have experience with the S580e yet, I do daily a hybrid. It is going to come down to the users commute whether or not the vehicle makes sense. The S580e has an estimated all electric range of 62 miles which is very impressive for a hybrid vehicle. If you can keep your usual commute within that range you will absolutely see a savings. In just about 6k miles I have used a little under 4 tanks of gas with only a ~25 mile electric range.
S580e interests me a lot.
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I think the S580e is a great car for those who want a stopgap before a true S-Class EV comes out. Only sacrifice one may have to make is the trunk space will likely be much smaller due to the batteries.
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For me, I would barely ever have to use gas. My office is 10 miles from my house, there are EV charging spaces that are free right behind the back door to my office in the garage, I could literally drive the car for zero fuel or charging costs.
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I have an almost identical power to weight ratio in my Wrangler 4xe and have no problem merging on the highway, pulling away from lights, crossing traffic, or even on my very hilly commute but there has been a time or two I've had to mash the pedal to wake up the engine for some extra pep.
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Thank you all for your replies. I was able to research for a while prior to ordering the s580e and my rationale was: I really don’t like the EQS appearance, but the S580e seems to be the best of both worlds (gas/electric).
The G63 is something I’ve always liked and a really cool car, but it does command attention by all…which is good mostly and can be bad. The S is more subdued and elegant. The other concern is the G63 has an ICE meaning it would likely lose value as our world transitions to electric. The S580e would be a transitional vehicle that I’d keep 5-8 years?
However, after reading this forum, I am now concerned of two things: the value on the S would likely drop as well…or would it? Is the quality that bad between the W222 and W223? I know the S will be more comfortable, but would missing out on a G63 be an epic mistake? Both the s and g are awesome in their own way.
In order to reconcile my decision I figured I’d enlist the opinions of people who’ve actually owned the S class (I haven’t). And if someone has an s580e I wanted to to get an idea of their anticipated time horizon keeping the car and daily usability with a very complex vehicle. For those who owned a G (new version) is the ride too harsh for daily driving or does the cool factor win?
Thank you for your advice to help a confused person haha
The G63 is something I’ve always liked and a really cool car, but it does command attention by all…which is good mostly and can be bad. The S is more subdued and elegant. The other concern is the G63 has an ICE meaning it would likely lose value as our world transitions to electric. The S580e would be a transitional vehicle that I’d keep 5-8 years?
However, after reading this forum, I am now concerned of two things: the value on the S would likely drop as well…or would it? Is the quality that bad between the W222 and W223? I know the S will be more comfortable, but would missing out on a G63 be an epic mistake? Both the s and g are awesome in their own way.
In order to reconcile my decision I figured I’d enlist the opinions of people who’ve actually owned the S class (I haven’t). And if someone has an s580e I wanted to to get an idea of their anticipated time horizon keeping the car and daily usability with a very complex vehicle. For those who owned a G (new version) is the ride too harsh for daily driving or does the cool factor win?
Thank you for your advice to help a confused person haha
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Quite embarrassing, isn't it? I would have preferred a diesel but but it would have been more expensive to purchase and a lot more expensive to keep for low miles. Thanks to our tax system.
Perhaps after I reach the 2000 mile/one year milestone. On the other hand, there isn't much to report on top of everything that we've seen for the gasoline models and even covering some diesel models.
Perhaps after I reach the 2000 mile/one year milestone. On the other hand, there isn't much to report on top of everything that we've seen for the gasoline models and even covering some diesel models.
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There's no way around it, it isn't going to feel quick in EV mode. The electric motor has about 150hp in a heavy car. It'll do the speed limit just fine but not in a rush. If you need it, the 580e makes more horsepower and torque than the regular 580.
I have an almost identical power to weight ratio in my Wrangler 4xe and have no problem merging on the highway, pulling away from lights, crossing traffic, or even on my very hilly commute but there has been a time or two I've had to mash the pedal to wake up the engine for some extra pep.
I have an almost identical power to weight ratio in my Wrangler 4xe and have no problem merging on the highway, pulling away from lights, crossing traffic, or even on my very hilly commute but there has been a time or two I've had to mash the pedal to wake up the engine for some extra pep.
Thank you all for your replies. I was able to research for a while prior to ordering the s580e and my rationale was: I really don’t like the EQS appearance, but the S580e seems to be the best of both worlds (gas/electric).
The G63 is something I’ve always liked and a really cool car, but it does command attention by all…which is good mostly and can be bad. The S is more subdued and elegant. The other concern is the G63 has an ICE meaning it would likely lose value as our world transitions to electric. The S580e would be a transitional vehicle that I’d keep 5-8 years?
However, after reading this forum, I am now concerned of two things: the value on the S would likely drop as well…or would it? Is the quality that bad between the W222 and W223? I know the S will be more comfortable, but would missing out on a G63 be an epic mistake? Both the s and g are awesome in their own way.
In order to reconcile my decision I figured I’d enlist the opinions of people who’ve actually owned the S class (I haven’t). And if someone has an s580e I wanted to to get an idea of their anticipated time horizon keeping the car and daily usability with a very complex vehicle. For those who owned a G (new version) is the ride too harsh for daily driving or does the cool factor win?
Thank you for your advice to help a confused person haha
The G63 is something I’ve always liked and a really cool car, but it does command attention by all…which is good mostly and can be bad. The S is more subdued and elegant. The other concern is the G63 has an ICE meaning it would likely lose value as our world transitions to electric. The S580e would be a transitional vehicle that I’d keep 5-8 years?
However, after reading this forum, I am now concerned of two things: the value on the S would likely drop as well…or would it? Is the quality that bad between the W222 and W223? I know the S will be more comfortable, but would missing out on a G63 be an epic mistake? Both the s and g are awesome in their own way.
In order to reconcile my decision I figured I’d enlist the opinions of people who’ve actually owned the S class (I haven’t). And if someone has an s580e I wanted to to get an idea of their anticipated time horizon keeping the car and daily usability with a very complex vehicle. For those who owned a G (new version) is the ride too harsh for daily driving or does the cool factor win?
Thank you for your advice to help a confused person haha
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However, after reading this forum, I am now concerned of two things: the value on the S would likely drop as well…or would it? Is the quality that bad between the W222 and W223? I know the S will be more comfortable, but would missing out on a G63 be an epic mistake? Both the s and g are awesome in their own way.
In order to reconcile my decision I figured I’d enlist the opinions of people who’ve actually owned the S class (I haven’t). And if someone has an s580e I wanted to to get an idea of their anticipated time horizon keeping the car and daily usability with a very complex vehicle. For those who owned a G (new version) is the ride too harsh for daily driving or does the cool factor win?
Thank you for your advice to help a confused person haha
In order to reconcile my decision I figured I’d enlist the opinions of people who’ve actually owned the S class (I haven’t). And if someone has an s580e I wanted to to get an idea of their anticipated time horizon keeping the car and daily usability with a very complex vehicle. For those who owned a G (new version) is the ride too harsh for daily driving or does the cool factor win?
Thank you for your advice to help a confused person haha
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Not enough for US traffic like joining highway traffic etc. 150 hp electric engine quite sufficient for me, I would never need the 510+ hp total power. No really steep hills to climb and I mostly drive on roads that have 100 km/h speed limits. I've never needed the gasoline engine except on one 250 km trip without charging the car.
I have filled the car once, just after leaving the shop. Mercedes Me says 91% fuel in the tank now (fuel tank a bit smaller than on gasoline cars). Estimated range some 914 km (including 100 km on electric). Might be optimistic gasoline miles. I've done 110 km on electric only but that was summer time and driving slow (80 to 100 km/h).
I don't drive daily, sometimes not for two weeks. Use diesel cars most often. No regular charging pattern then.
Hows the combined MPG with the tank filled with gas and the battery charged to full? How often do you fill up gas and how often do you charge it at night? Bimmerpost forums have alot of owners happy with the X5 45e in which the combined mpg is above 30 mpg and people are getting longer ranges between fill up up to 800 miles on a tank of gas and charging every few days at night.
I don't drive daily, sometimes not for two weeks. Use diesel cars most often. No regular charging pattern then.
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Forgot to comment on this. The answer is no lol. The W223 clearly had some teething issues when it was launched, maybe it was rushed out before it was quite ready, but those issues have been ironed out. Would I trade my 2020 S560 for a 2021 early S580? No. Would I be worried about quality and reliability trading it on a 2023? Absolutely not. I drove the S580 the other day, there is no reason why a W222 owner wouldn't love the way the W223 drives, its almost identical just a little better. Styling and design are a different story though, its pretty different in those areas. I still prefer the layout inside of the W222.
Thats great feedback, thanks! My guess is I would be into the gas engine all the time anyways.
Not enough for US traffic like joining highway traffic etc. 150 hp electric engine quite sufficient for me, I would never need the 510+ hp total power. No really steep hills to climb and I mostly drive on roads that have 100 km/h speed limits. I've never needed the gasoline engine except on one 250 km trip without charging the car.
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