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back to the actual important stuff...
with ILS+ function, if i have the hi beams on manually (ie, not on auto mode), will it still block out cars in front and oncoming so they don't get blinded?
or is that only in auto mode?
i'd like to be able to keep hi beams on permanently (regardless of speed) and have the blocking function activated throughout its entirety.
is that scenario available with ILS+?
back to the actual important stuff...
with ILS+ function, if i have the hi beams on manually (ie, not on auto mode), will it still block out cars in front and oncoming so they don't get blinded?
or is that only in auto mode?
i'd like to be able to keep hi beams on permanently (regardless of speed) and have the blocking function activated throughout its entirety.
is that scenario available with ILS+?
I think you have W223, but I can share what I noticed in the W222 which I (think) works pretty much the same. When I turn the high-beam manually, it TURNS ON TO ITS FULL CAPACITY, so I will certainly blind them. I did not ask if the manual high-beam can be coded to always also do anti-dazzle, but I did that coding on my BMW and it worked but that has involved some pretty complex mapping than just coding (meaning the function of the highbeam turns to a always-on-automatic-like feature; or in other words, it was not simply turning one line from not-active to active as 90% of these codes are done, but involved rather more complex mapping between modules and output of each "outside the normal factory settings or outside the European factory spec's for ILS in particular). I personally have more ( or only) experience with BMW, but at some point when I have the time I will be looking into Mbenz; right now just like most of you I hire a coding for Benz as I don't have a license at least yet.
I would say usually there is a speed limit before the automatic high-beam turns off (which I think 35 MPH on the benz). I don't see why this can't be coded, but now you gave me a few things to poke my coder with. But I know as of right now it does not work by default the way you want it to be. I'll report back if I learn that this can be done. My rule of thump, usually is, if it can be done on a stupid BMW, the Benz must be at least capable of doing the same lol !
i don't like the auto mode cuz the hi beam will turn on/off based on its own algorithm...which oftentimes does not match my (very picky!) needs. particularly with slower speeds or its own decision that there's sufficient surrounding lights (eg, street light posts)...in all cases i prefer hi beams on constantly. i was just hoping that ILS+ would let me do that whilst still having the active blocking functioning.
i don't like the auto mode cuz the hi beam will turn on/off based on its own algorithm...which oftentimes does not match my (very picky!) needs. particularly with slower speeds or its own decision that there's sufficient surrounding lights (eg, street light posts)...in all cases i prefer hi beams on constantly. i was just hoping that ILS+ would let me do that whilst still having the active blocking functioning.
Yes, sensitivity in the Mbenz is pretty high and auto high beam turns off in the presence of light which really sucks, unlike both my BMWs coded for the same. I also noticed that before my I coded ILS as auto-high beam turns off as soon as there are some city-like lights around. One of the W223 users over here who was exchanging private messages with me said he is working with Max on adjusting the lights anticity sensitivity so the auto-high beam remains on in non-dark area more often. I don't know what happened out of that but if he sees my comment he will know am referring to him (sorry forgot his name as I have received a few private messages since then I won't know unless I open every and each message). but he is one of those who reported they coded their W223 for ILS with Max even before I knew about him. I also want to the ALWAYS ON high-beam functionality; so I'll ask and report back if I learn that there is a way to make that work. Porblem is, if it's not factory or European like operation, it may not be even possible or may require a complicated mapping route (at least that's what I learned when I coded my BMW for stuff like that that are basically non-factory or non-European, aka: not just decoded). ILS is simple "decoded" by factory all what's needed is to flip "remove" or "reverse" the decoded to encoded by switching some lines from nitch-aktiv to aktiv. Things beyond decoded stuff can be tricky or not even possible.
Another feature I really want is: since the cornering lights use a separate light bump inside the headlamp, I'd like them to be always on too. They help a lot in illuminating the sides of the vehicle like a 360 fog light which we don't have
8746915]back to the actual important stuff...
with ILS+ function, if i have the hi beams on manually (ie, not on auto mode), will it still block out cars in front and oncoming so they don't get blinded?
or is that only in auto mode?
i'd like to be able to keep hi beams on permanently (regardless of speed) and have the blocking function activated throughout its entirety.
is that scenario available with ILS+?
ILS only works when the headlights are in auto mode. If you turn the lights on manually it will not work.
If you use the auto on/off setting for the headlights then you can leave the high beams on all the time and it will always work.
If you use the auto on/off setting for the headlights then you can leave the high beams on all the time and it will always work.
just so I'm on same page...i don't believe this statement is accurate. for US models without ILS, hi beam activated in auto mode will only turn on the hi when the algorithm deems appropriate. otherwise it will shut off.. via the cool open/close "curtain" effect.
my understanding here is that when ILS is coded in, it's still the same algorithm determining when to turn on/off the hi in auto mode. but with added benefit of blocking out oncoming+front traffic (in addition to the various other lighting enhancements described in the manual for Canada models).
lol. I know Zenzefi but I never heard of Zenzefy
Regardless, but to answer your question more specifically about Zenzefi, it is basically US based certificate that ALL (OR MOST) CODERS really use (there is no other way that am aware of) for all vehicles that are using the STAR Architecture. ZenZefi is basically a supplier for (and on behalf) MB-USA, to supply certificates. So ZenZefi basically does the handling and distribution of DCS Certificates for US folks including third part shops. Anyone can get it for 60 bucks and with VPN network connection you cab do coding as if any other US dealers or 3rd party shop would do when using Zenzefi. Both coders in reference of this thread seem to be using a valid Zenzefi as they claim, though Ninja still does not do or offer W223 coding, while Max had already coded a few vehicles here for ILS using Zenzefi certificate. Regardless, the claim against Asian countries originated certificate or source is not even valid (but in all cases and regardless who works/code your car dealer can see it is not his certificate, but do they really care? that I don't know). But US vs non-US based stuff is all BS; it is still appear as US based valid certificate. This is why things will be done using your laptop from your own home, all via VPN secured connection on the coders end. Your laptop USB and it's IP and your network then serves as the direct and only physical direct contact with the vehicle. That's all based on my understanding, I welcome any corrections or comments; simply trying to avoid scaring off people with any bold claims. For W222, it a different story but easier.
lol. I know Zenzefi but I never heard of Zenzefy
Regardless, but to answer your question more specifically about Zenzefi, it is basically US based certificate that ALL (OR MOST) CODERS really use (there is no other way that am aware of) for all vehicles that are using the STAR Architecture. ZenZefi is basically a supplier for (and on behalf) MB-USA, to supply certificates. So ZenZefi basically does the handling and distribution of DCS Certificates for US folks including third part shops. Anyone can get it for 60 bucks and with VPN network connection you cab do coding as if any other US dealers or 3rd party shop would do when using Zenzefi. Both coders in reference of this thread seem to be using a valid Zenzefi as they claim, though Ninja still does not do or offer W223 coding, while Max had already coded a few vehicles here for ILS using Zenzefi certificate. Regardless, the claim against Asian countries originated certificate or source is not even valid (but in all cases and regardless who works/code your car dealer can see it is not his certificate, but do they really care? that I don't know). But US vs non-US based stuff is all BS; it is still appear as US based valid certificate. This is why things will be done using your laptop from your own home, all via VPN secured connection on the coders end. Your laptop USB and it's IP and your network then serves as the direct and only physical direct contact with the vehicle. That's all based on my understanding, I welcome any corrections or comments; simply trying to avoid scaring off people with any bold claims. For W222, it a different story but easier.
So, does this mean MBUSA, selling these certificates through Zenzefi, is basically giving their consent to the buyers to do coding modifications?
If so, does this further imply that if a person's car is modified under the umbrella of an US based valid certificate, that car is still under MBUSA warranty?
What is the relationship between MB factory warranty and having (or not having) coding modifications with a valid certificate?
And as such, no MB dealer in the US can deny warranty work to a car which is modified under a valid US certificate? The answer, AFAIK, is negative.
Last edited by bishop64; Mar 26, 2023 at 02:10 AM.
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So, does this mean MBUSA, selling these certificates through Zenzefi, is basically giving their consent to the buyers to do coding modifications?
no, it gives access to recode, modify View/Wtite or just VIEW the ecu's and they are not selling certificates.
D Certificates auto-download and by access with a MB D account and they are locally stored and valid only two weeks only
They are normally not removable nor transferable or can be sold
ZenZefy will write it's access in the car forever in this case a license from Singapore Asia.
Mister "I have a mission" in need of celebrity You have no idea of what you are talking about nothing to to with bought or online, the original certificate's dealer data will be recorded in the car
This is the reason why I am not providing this service yet. We will be doing this only after we got a Legit US Dealer or Licensed partner's access BenzNinja works for dealerships and MB licensed work shops since last year
Just ask yourself nobody is providing this service here yet
coding the W223 is the same as any other car. This is not the problem
nobody is buying non-Euro or non North American coding certificates and those licensed with these are not very motivated to lend them
for those who don't know what ILS+ is here is the video
thanks for the video, but doesn't answer my question of whether in the Auto position the hi beam can be left on continuously, or if its on/off is controlled thru its algorithm.
sorry that I'm not understanding...
with ILS coded, can the hi beam stay on continuously (without the algorithm turning it on/off on its own) whilst having the blocking/anti-glare function working?
sorry that I'm not understanding...
with ILS coded, can the hi beam stay on continuously (without the algorithm turning it on/off on its own) whilst having the blocking/anti-glare function working?
If BenzNinja's coding work does not affect MB warranty, what is the reason?
Is it because your work is, in some ways, accepted by MBUSA?
Is it because your work supposedly leaves no trace for a MB dealer to discover?
From what I read about, when a MB dealer finds out the recoding, there is warranty problem.
You seem to say ''A MB dealer will find out a Singapore recoding easily. But a MB dealer cannot find out my work as I use a valid US certificate.''
This implies, if whatever recoding is found out, there will be warranty issue.
Frankly, soley relying on ''not-finding-out'' is not up to my standard. I do not entertain this crossing-finger approach at all.
8747110]hmm can't seem to get a straight answer.
i'll ask a different way...in OEM format coding, can it be run continuously with anti-glare?
It does not run continuously, but the anti glare high beam function does not click on and off like it does before it’s coded. It goes off at low speeds and in bright areas and that’s it. That’s a W222 assuming the 223 is the same.apparently the speed at which it goes off can be lowered.
Even when it is off though, the low beam pattern is improved.
It does not run continuously, but the anti glare high beam function does not click on and off like it does before it’s coded. It goes off at low speeds and in bright areas and that’s it. That’s a W222 assuming the 223 is the same.apparently the speed at which it goes off can be lowered.
Even when it is off though, the low beam pattern is improved.
i believe this answers my question...the hi-beam CANNOT say on continuously on Auto mode (ie, without the algorithm turning it on/off based on ambient lighting and speed) with ILS+ (ie, with the anti-glare blocking function).
also, in manual mode (ie, not Auto), you can have the hi-beam on continuously...but it won't do the anti-glare blocking...that only works via Auto mode.
i have this right?
(ok...back to the originally scheduled program of non-sensical bickering)
I have been telling everyone long time ago about the dangers getting your W223 coded with non US licences, the traces it leaves and problems you will get. It is totally irresponsible to do this There is nothing to discuss. It's a fact The prices of a US licences are to high right now, and security not met. you will have to explain to your dealer how your car went to asia
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It seems you are ignoring what the moderator replied you: "Endorsing a vendor and their coding results for a platform which you don't own or have any experience with is not ok. Nor do you have relevant experience what impact this has on owners. "
Now you won't see a coder in Singapore admitting that his Asian license writes it's access in the W223
you seem very exited writing in red
no need to respond, all I had to say has been said. audience will judge by themselves who they believe
discussion is closed for me. Argue with yourself
ps: If his real name is Max, I am James, James Bond
BE AWARE !
Last edited by BenzNinja; Oct 25, 2023 at 08:18 PM.
i believe this answers my question...the hi-beam CANNOT say on continuously on Auto mode (ie, without the algorithm turning it on/off based on ambient lighting and speed) with ILS+ (ie, with the anti-glare blocking function).
also, in manual mode (ie, not Auto), you can have the hi-beam on continuously...but it won't do the anti-glare blocking...that only works via Auto mode.
i have this right?
(ok...back to the originally scheduled program of non-sensical bickering)
I think one "partial" solution for you is to code your ILS in a way that ILS+ and auto-high-beam operation starts from low speed instead of the standard 35 MPH? When mine was coded, I asked for it to start from low speed starting from 0 MPH instead of the default 35 MPH, and that gave me more auto-light and ILS operation for driving in-town. As far as keeping it also on around city lights, that was not something I asked for as I forgot about it, but it was something I also would like to have and was planning to ask about but i haven't yet; I'll let u know if I get an answer. The streets around me are always dark though but my OCD still wants it, lol.
the issue is the width of the rear wheels not the diameter. 255 millimeter rear tires work for full 10 degree, while 285 millimeter limit you to 4.5. I do not know how much extra/room for error is in any of those.
In the US, there are three AMG like 20 inch wheels that have been offered, RVR, RVP, and RVQ. All of those, like the 21 inch wheels, have the wider 10 J x 20 rear wheels on 285 width rear tires. In other markets, though I don’t know the codes, there are similar wheels offered with the thinner 9 J x 20 wheels on 255 tires, and those work on 10 degree rear steering. That’s the real thing to worry about, though, wheel and tire width.
In the US and other markets, all 19 inch wheel options I clouding the AMG wheel, as well as most of not all 20 inch non AMG line wheels should have the thin rear tire and allow 10 degree rear steering.
the issue is the width of the rear wheels not the diameter. 255 millimeter rear tires work for full 10 degree, while 285 millimeter limit you to 4.5. I do not know how much extra/room for error is in any of those.
In the US, there are three AMG like 20 inch wheels that have been offered, RVR, RVP, and RVQ. All of those, like the 21 inch wheels, have the wider 10 J x 20 rear wheels on 285 width rear tires. In other markets, though I don’t know the codes, there are similar wheels offered with the thinner 9 J x 20 wheels on 255 tires, and those work on 10 degree rear steering. That’s the real thing to worry about, though, wheel and tire width.
In the US and other markets, all 19 inch wheel options I clouding the AMG wheel, as well as most of not all 20 inch non AMG line wheels should have the thin rear tire and allow 10 degree rear steering.
@Sonic Boom can u please verify, given u actually have the 10deg with the 20" amg wheels...
Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
Yes. I was just about to correct the previous posters. I did A LOT of research on this issue before I chose:
-for 10⁰ RWS you can go up to and including 20” wheels.
-if you go with the 21” (AMG?) wheels then you’re restricted to 4.5⁰
Personally I prefer to have 10⁰ much more than to have 21” wheels. So it’s a matter of preference: more RWS or larger wheels.
For me it was a no brainer. I’ve posted endlessly on the merits/benefits of 10⁰ as opposed to just 4.5⁰. The difference is amazing!
PS
My 20” wheels are AMG: code RVU AMG multi-spoke alloy wheels with 10⁰ steering code 216.
do you know the other 20 inch wheel possible codes? I only have the USA and Canada ordering guides which only give wheels that are offered in their two countries, so no RVU or other wheel options. If you have an ordering guide for your country that would be very nice
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by BenjaminKohl
To be clear on the RWS issue:
the issue is the width of the rear wheels not the diameter. 255 millimeter rear tires work for full 10 degree, while 285 millimeter limit you to 4.5. I do not know how much extra/room for error is in any of those.
In the US, there are three AMG like 20 inch wheels that have been offered, RVR, RVP, and RVQ. All of those, like the 21 inch wheels, have the wider 10 J x 20 rear wheels on 285 width rear tires. In other markets, though I don’t know the codes, there are similar wheels offered with the thinner 9 J x 20 wheels on 255 tires, and those work on 10 degree rear steering. That’s the real thing to worry about, though, wheel and tire width.
In the US and other markets, all 19 inch wheel options I clouding the AMG wheel, as well as most of not all 20 inch non AMG line wheels should have the thin rear tire and allow 10 degree rear steering.
One might wonder WHY MB engineered the car this way. They should have known what size wheels would be fitted to the various 223 cars variants and provided the necessary clearances for all of them from the beginning.
indeed, thanks!
per @BenjaminKohl looks like ur rear is amg 20x9.
my rear tire here in the US is a 285... which probably means the amg wheel is 20x10.
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