My S580 STRANDED ME!
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@Streamliner Is this your second consecutive S-Class buyback?
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Stream are you financing or leasing? The days of discounts seem to have returned. It shouldn’t be difficult to find an S580 (or S500) with a discount. Same for the new 7er, both gas and EV 7er’s are sitting on lots and already discounted by me, and the G90 doesn’t sell at all, so I’m sure you could get some cash off there.
I know you also said you’re looking at the GV80, RX, X5, etc, but those seem to be in high demand, so expect less of a discount and maybe even the possibility of a custom order. My local Benz, BMW, and Lexus dealer pretty much have no SUV’s in stock and the lots are looking a bit more empty again, although things may be different in Cali.
I know you also said you’re looking at the GV80, RX, X5, etc, but those seem to be in high demand, so expect less of a discount and maybe even the possibility of a custom order. My local Benz, BMW, and Lexus dealer pretty much have no SUV’s in stock and the lots are looking a bit more empty again, although things may be different in Cali.
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I’ve mentioned this before, but everything considered, I cannot imagine any vehicle this side of a Bentley or Rolls being a better vehicle to cover long stretches of highway. My S580 is, without a doubt, “THE” most quiet vehicle I have ever ridden in. The ride quality at highway speeds is superb, if not quite as good as my MBC, 18” wheel equipped W222’s.
We are now up in Carmel-By-The-Sea, California. If you haven’t been, the very quaint & picturesque town has rolling, uneven residential streets and the transmission performance as we drove these streets was dismal, disappointing and at times infuriating. So many times, as I would gently accelerate from a stop and then need to slow down again approaching a stop sign, the sloppiness of the shifting is just so noticeable. Slow down to make a turn, then accelerate up a hill and the transmission just seems “confused” as to what it should do. There are never any transmission issues at higher speeds, say above 45mph, but at low speeds, it’s just, plain bad.
Tomorrow, we will get back on Highway 101, heading for Santa Barbara. I look forward to being on the open road again.
We are now up in Carmel-By-The-Sea, California. If you haven’t been, the very quaint & picturesque town has rolling, uneven residential streets and the transmission performance as we drove these streets was dismal, disappointing and at times infuriating. So many times, as I would gently accelerate from a stop and then need to slow down again approaching a stop sign, the sloppiness of the shifting is just so noticeable. Slow down to make a turn, then accelerate up a hill and the transmission just seems “confused” as to what it should do. There are never any transmission issues at higher speeds, say above 45mph, but at low speeds, it’s just, plain bad.
Tomorrow, we will get back on Highway 101, heading for Santa Barbara. I look forward to being on the open road again.
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Probably that ridiculous mild hybrid system they are shoving down our throats. A similar thing happened on my 7 series where I lost the power steering and lots of important electronics because my 3 year old mh battery was no longer taking a charge.
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It finally happened. I have had 2 tires with significant bubbles with freeway driving already (21's). However, I just was driving on a freeway entrance and went over a pothole. Both my left tires dropped to zero immediately. I am currently having the car towed to the dealership. It has been a week wait to get tires previously. It is sad that I paid 150k for a car I don't trust driving.
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It finally happened. I have had 2 tires with significant bubbles with freeway driving already (21's). However, I just was driving on a freeway entrance and went over a pothole. Both my left tires dropped to zero immediately. I am currently having the car towed to the dealership. It has been a week wait to get tires previously. It is sad that I paid 150k for a car I don't trust driving.
What city do you live in?
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In regards of being the star of this 660+ post thread, it seems to have not stranded you again
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Hopefully it works out in your favour : )
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Agreed. The journalists are 100% reliant on the car companies for income.
"Automakers spent more than $15 billion on advertising in 2018, according to Ad Age, and these nine award givers get cuts of that big pie: Automobile, Car and Driver, Edmunds, Green Car Journal, J.D. Power, KBB, MotorTrend, Popular Mechanics, and U.S. News & World Report all carry advertising from automakers."
https://www.checkbook.org/national/a...-Interest-7318
And we're supposed to trust these people despite the glaring conflict of interest? It's just insane.
"Automakers spent more than $15 billion on advertising in 2018, according to Ad Age, and these nine award givers get cuts of that big pie: Automobile, Car and Driver, Edmunds, Green Car Journal, J.D. Power, KBB, MotorTrend, Popular Mechanics, and U.S. News & World Report all carry advertising from automakers."
https://www.checkbook.org/national/a...-Interest-7318
And we're supposed to trust these people despite the glaring conflict of interest? It's just insane.
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That is a very interesting article. Not being a really technical guy—but a reasonably practical & common sense type—I’ve always had similar thoughts on the whole EV thing. I’m all for “saving the planet,” but I believe the politics of it have caused a knee jerk reaction to the problems and we are now starting to experience some of the consequences.
In L.A.—a city where I was born & raised, where I built my business, that I will rarely venture into anymore because of the lawlessness—they have this “road diet” program, where they have taken some busy, major thoroughfares and devoted one lane to busses only and another for bicycles only, turning the one remaining lane into a virtual “no man’s land” for other vehicles. Businesses on those streets have been decimated, all in the name of what some feel is just SO environmentally responsible.
I think I’m staying with an ICE vehicle for now, maybe a hybrid. The whole environmental movement is just moving too quickly and too haphazardly for me right now. I believe there are potentially massive, unintended consequences with all of these batteries being manufactured.
In L.A.—a city where I was born & raised, where I built my business, that I will rarely venture into anymore because of the lawlessness—they have this “road diet” program, where they have taken some busy, major thoroughfares and devoted one lane to busses only and another for bicycles only, turning the one remaining lane into a virtual “no man’s land” for other vehicles. Businesses on those streets have been decimated, all in the name of what some feel is just SO environmentally responsible.
I think I’m staying with an ICE vehicle for now, maybe a hybrid. The whole environmental movement is just moving too quickly and too haphazardly for me right now. I believe there are potentially massive, unintended consequences with all of these batteries being manufactured.
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Yep! I’m truly amazed when I read ANY negative comments on any brand vehicle. I was absolutely amazed when Motor Trend raked the Genesis GV80 over the coals for having a horrible ride quality. Then, Car & Driver says the GV80 is the THE best midsize, luxury SUV. Go figure.
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P.S. By the way, look where the 2024 GLE ranks:
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I certainly don’t have the answers, but a few things come to mind:
1. Limit horsepower on passenger vehicles & light trucks. Nobody needs more than around 350hp for the street, NOBODY!
2.. Above limit would apply to electric & hybrids as well. 800hp electric cars are not helping the planet. “Track Ready” cars should not be allowed to operate on public streets & highways.
3. Crack down on brake pads that produce dust in enormous amounts. Lexus vehicles make way less dust than German makes. It can & should be done.
4. The size & weight of passenger vehicles & especially light trucks should be reeled in. Every Toby Keith wannabe out there is using a lifted F350, with monster tires as his daily driver. It really has gotten way out of hand.
5. All gasoline powered mowers, trimmers, leaf blowers, etc. should be banned in favor of rechargeable or plug-in electrics.
6. We should immediately restart our nuclear power plant industry. It is our absolute, very best shot at safe, clean, renewable energy. The waste can be safely dealt with.
7. We need a “Robert Moses” type transportation tsar to get mass transit projects done. The absolute folly that is the California High Speed Rail Authority, is a great idea, but NOT if every single decision needs to be litigated in court. For the greater good of the many, a few should be forced out of the way, properly compensated, of course. Robert Moses was hated, but he got the job done and billions of people have benefited over the decades. You can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
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1. Limit horsepower on passenger vehicles & light trucks. Nobody needs more than around 350hp for the street, NOBODY!
2.. Above limit would apply to electric & hybrids as well. 800hp electric cars are not helping the planet. “Track Ready” cars should not be allowed to operate on public streets & highways.
3. Crack down on brake pads that produce dust in enormous amounts. Lexus vehicles make way less dust than German makes. It can & should be done.
4. The size & weight of passenger vehicles & especially light trucks should be reeled in. Every Toby Keith wannabe out there is using a lifted F350, with monster tires as his daily driver. It really has gotten way out of hand.
5. All gasoline powered mowers, trimmers, leaf blowers, etc. should be banned in favor of rechargeable or plug-in electrics.
6. We should immediately restart our nuclear power plant industry. It is our absolute, very best shot at safe, clean, renewable energy. The waste can be safely dealt with.
7. We need a “Robert Moses” type transportation tsar to get mass transit projects done. The absolute folly that is the California High Speed Rail Authority, is a great idea, but NOT if every single decision needs to be litigated in court. For the greater good of the many, a few should be forced out of the way, properly compensated, of course. Robert Moses was hated, but he got the job done and billions of people have benefited over the decades. You can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
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2. Agree
3. Couldn't agree more but Germans get around by saying it helps with braking performance because it is softer... well... debate for another time
4. Speaking of light trucks, "pretty sure this will become a debate between "Real" of fake truck" but I think the Maverick is just good enough as well as the RAM Rampage. That is "if" you really need a truck, re: point 1, no one really use their truck for their intended purpose anymore, most buy pickups because they "can" and apparently it is a "status symbol" and so they "own the road"...
5. Ya this is a big one, you really don't need a gasoline lawn motor although people swear by the power it has over electric, electric ones are very capable nowadays. Back to commercial use, though, I want to add cargo trucks or basically lorries should be fully electric since those emit a lot of CO2. Then you can argue same for planes, trains etc.
6. Mhmm, better than using it for nuclear weapons at war ugh.
7. This might be a great start.
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Some German car manufacturers are coming out with many versions of e-bikes as well, I think MB and BMW also have an e-scooter now?
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We all will continue buying the bigger, more powerful vehicles, as long as so many others are. Frankly, I would actually prefer a smaller vehicle, but driving on roads where there so many pickups & SUV’s that are simply monstrous, I feel I need to “stay competitive” size & weight wise, just for safety concerns. Love those B7’s by the way!
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I might have prefaced my “thoughts” by saying we cannot achieve much of anything, unless and until law and order are restored. I’m especially referring to many of our bigger cities where respect for law enforcement has fallen to new lows and police officers are leaving in droves. L.A., which I know about, is at a point where most law abiding citizens won’t ride public transportation, due to the dangers on the busses & trains that seem to be rampant and that go unchecked. Criminals that are apprehended are given a slap on the wrist and set free, so they turn around and keep offending, over & over. San Francisco, where they had some pretty decent public transportation, is rapidly becoming a failed city, with residents & businesses fleeing to the suburbs or leaving California entirely. Don’t even get me started on our virtually wide open borders where drugs & criminals flow into the country to perpetuate and exacerbate the already horrid situation.
We cannot even think about new mass transit systems, until we get our country on an even keel. When will the thugs figure out that folks stuck for extended periods of time at EV charging stations might be good targets?
We cannot even think about new mass transit systems, until we get our country on an even keel. When will the thugs figure out that folks stuck for extended periods of time at EV charging stations might be good targets?
