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Old 05-23-2023, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 190Efan
My engineer father with bachelors and masters degrees in engineering, more than 40 years of aviation and automotive engineering work experience and was a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers well understood these well established facts. It's time for you to do the same.
My suggestion would be it's time for you to ask your (alleged) engineer daddy where that oil actually came from: Helpful hint, it wasn't dinosaurs.

I give you one more thing: Assuming your dad isn't fictional; I can promise you he would weep if he read what you've posted here.


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Old 05-23-2023, 05:16 PM
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FYI, knowledge is power. Engineering knowledge is most helpful in determining what vehicle to buy. Most people don't have it. This is why non-engineer Elon Musk has been able to fool lots of people because of their lack of engineering knowledge. Elon is of the very mistaken notion that he knows more about building cars than the Society of Automotive Engineers. He doesn't and never will. Musk is about to find out what real competition is with vehicles being produced by companies building them for far longer than Musk has been building cars. Musk is also too distracted by SpaceEx and Twitter. The longtime vehicle builders don't have such a distraction. Again I say that with the new competition and Tesla's poor build quality and accident causing self driving system that's now under federal investigation, buyers will now have more EV options and bad experiences with actually owning a Tesla to influence their future EV purchases.
Well the rest of us knuckle draggers just have to muddle through and choose the best vehicles we can lol.

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My suggestion would be it's time for you to ask your (alleged) engineer daddy where that oil actually came from: Helpful hint, it wasn't dinosaurs.

I give you one more thing: Assuming your dad isn't fictional; I can promise you he would weep if he read what you've posted here.
But if it wasn't dinosaurs why do they call it FOSSIL fuel huh? (I'm kidding, lol)
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Old 05-23-2023, 08:43 PM
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Yes, BUT: Someone can bring me a few gallons of gas from wherever, but I don’t think they can bring me a big enough Duracell.
Instead of big enough Duracell how about lots of Duracell:
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Old 05-23-2023, 08:49 PM
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Key words are "if the grid goes down" which refers to the ding often applied to EVs that they can't be charged if the grid is down and yet it applies equally to gas cars: No grid, no gas. On the other hand, to my knowledge, "I don't want to buy an ICE car because you can't get gas when the grid is down" was said by no one, ever.

If you want to talk about charging in general; yeah, for many, it's a multifaceted problem that isn't going away soon.
Imagine you can at least pedal home in case we are out of electric charge in the vehicle (kidding ofc...), people nowadays lack exercise
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I have never paid any attention to charging stations, etc. Are Tesla stations for Tesla cars ONLY, or can other brands use them?
MB has a statement on this one actually: https://mbworld.org/forums/eqs/86177...ml#post8740451
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Instead of big enough Duracell how about lots of Duracell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k1tbf8muMc
Hysterical!
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No , not kidding.
So global warming is all part of God's plan then?
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I can agree that we aren’t going right run out of fossil fuels, but I can’t agree burning fossil fuels and emitting the byproducts (which are not natural) into the atmosphere doesn’t harm the planet. The evidence and common sense says that it does.
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Hysterical!
"Batteries not included."
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Old 05-24-2023, 07:11 AM
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I'm probably the odd man out but I don't see EV's lasting and remaining trendy. Also feel that MB could care less about what people think as they have always been a leader in tech, style and entry midlevel luxury. With that being said, in my short period of driving them they have really gone downhill.
I hate a Tesla too, they're becoming more and more visual on the road in terms of seeing them all over, but how long will they last? Elon is a big bag of nuts and some people really like that. I digress.
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Originally Posted by crabman
My suggestion would be it's time for you to ask your (alleged) engineer daddy where that oil actually came from: Helpful hint, it wasn't dinosaurs.

I give you one more thing: Assuming your dad isn't fictional; I can promise you he would weep if he read what you've posted here.
Old 05-24-2023, 09:18 AM
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I don’t know if anyone has seen the new BMW i5, but it certainly doesn’t look like a wannabe Tesla jellybean. In fact, it’s the same design as the traditional 5 series, which is EXACTLY what MB should have done. Shaving off 0.02 coefficient of drag to squeeze 10 more miles out of a charge isn’t worth the design compromise. BMW is doing it right. They are offering traditional 5 series buyers an electrified option. The EQS, in my opinion, doesn’t offer that.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024...st-look-review

Moreover, the Lucid is more aerodynamic than a Tesla or EQS and it doesn’t look like a jelly bean. In fact, the traditional S has a coefficient of drag that is just slightly higher than the EQS (0.22 vs 0.2 respectively). Mercedes chased the wrong Tesla attribute. They should have copied their charging network.

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Originally Posted by Frenetic
I don’t know if anyone has seen the new BMW i5, but it certainly doesn’t look like a wannabe Tesla jellybean. In fact, it’s the same design as the traditional 5 series, which is EXACTLY what MB should have done. Shaving off 0.02 coefficient of drag to squeeze 10 more miles out of a charge isn’t worth the design compromise. BMW is doing it right. They are offering traditional 5 series buyers an electrified option. The EQS, in my opinion, doesn’t offer that.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024...st-look-review

Moreover, the Lucid is more aerodynamic than a Tesla or EQS and it doesn’t look like a jelly bean. In fact, the traditional S has a coefficient of drag that is just slightly higher than the EQS (0.22 vs 0.2 respectively). Mercedes chased the wrong Tesla attribute. They should have copied their charging network.

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Well, that new 5 you mentioned just got announced a few hours ago I think.
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I can agree that we aren’t going right run out of fossil fuels, but I can’t agree burning fossil fuels and emitting the byproducts (which are not natural) into the atmosphere doesn’t harm the planet. The evidence and common sense says that it does.
It looks to me, that for the time being and into the foreseeable future, we will have a reasonable mix of Electric, Hybrid & straight ICE powered vehicles with the more “environmentally friendly” propulsion methods gaining in popularity, as the technology & supportive infrastructure improves. I just don’t see the whole planet going all electric over the next 10 or even 20 years. In rural areas of the US they are going to drive electric pickups & tractors? Perhaps, but I doubt it. They are going to scrap all current ICE vehicles in the vast number of Third World countries? Folks who struggle just to survive are not thinking “I’ve got to get an EV,” they are thinking how they can keep their old F150 or Corolla running.
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They didn't jelly-bean it but once again they styled a car for someone that isn't me.
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Originally Posted by 190Efan
Your response puts on full display the fact that you're not an engineer. My engineer father taught me everything that I've posted and he would 100% agree with me. You don't have the engineering resume that my engineer father had so you'll never have his engineering knowledge and expertise.
Well, I'll put my expertise at being an "ENGINEER," developed over many years of operating my LIONEL, up against anyone!








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Well, I'll put my expertise at being an "ENGINEER," developed over many years of operating my LIONEL, up against anyone!


Do you have a Lionel Streamliner? Those old trains were works of Art! Got a CDL in 2011 after a career in High Energy Lasers. Would love to drive current mega horsepower Diesel Electric Trains for Union Pacific but fail color vision test by one chart.
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Do you have a Lionel Streamliner? Those old trains were works of Art! Got a CDL in 2011 after a career in High Energy Lasers. Would love to drive current mega horsepower Diesel Electric Trains for Union Pacific but fail color vision test by one chart.
Actually, I do have an old Lionel train set from the 1950’s. Yes, they were works of art, manufactured with very robust materials in Irvington, New Jersey and made to last a lifetime with any decent care.



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Well, I'll put my expertise at being an "ENGINEER," developed over many years of operating my LIONEL, up against anyone!


LOVE IT!!! I just bought a vintage train transformer from a hobby train shop the other day. Don't have a train set but for $10 I thought I would support their hobby. They had a 40' X20' train set running and it was cool.
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Do you have a Lionel Streamliner? Those old trains were works of Art! Got a CDL in 2011 after a career in High Energy Lasers. Would love to drive current mega horsepower Diesel Electric Trains for Union Pacific but fail color vision test by one chart.
I was accepted to work for Norfolk Southern back in November but after considering being away from my boys and their kids so much, I declined. My grandfather was a locomotive engineer for Southern Railway and that's how I got caught up with the bug to go that route. At 60, I'm just too old to make big changes in life but if my current job didn't have me handcuffed to it, I would pursue railroad further just because I'm divorced and would like to have new career challenges.

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Thread cleaned up. Please stop bickering and stay on topic. If somebody likes to have an engineering discussion, please do so in the off-topic section.

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There isn't really any good alternative to the S class. The MBW 7 series falls short and is ugly. The Audi and Lexus are not at the same league. Same goes for the Genesis G90. The Bentley Flying Spur is at a much higher price point and not any more reliable than the S class. So despite all the S class issues (and there are plenty) id still buy another S class
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Thread cleaned up. Please stop bickering and stay on topic. If somebody likes to have an engineering discussion, please do so in the off-topic section.

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I blame Streamliner; he's a rabble-rouser!
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I blame Streamliner; he's a rabble-rouser!
That’s me! My optician father taught me………….
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