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Which SUV would you choose to replace the S580?

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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 01:47 PM
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Have a look at cargurus.

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if you want a used one. New they are over $400k.
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 08:38 PM
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Aww maaan, I'm trading in all my cars for a Purosangue in red just like this one, but with matte black trim like the blue one. Then I'm going to drive it to Walmart every single day.

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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 10:46 PM
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OK ok last one... it's not just a Ferrari it's like a whole experience. My Genesis dealer looked nothing like this:

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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Crito
Aww maaan, I'm trading in all my cars for a Purosangue in red just like this one, but with matte black trim like the blue one. Then I'm going to drive it to Walmart every single day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDZZ7CfcPaM
Originally Posted by Crito
<Insert David Lee Roth singing "I'm just a gigolo" meme here>

Well that's kind of the whole point of a purple Urus. Otherwise just get an Audi SQ8 with the 4.0L biturbo V8 and save yourself a pile of cash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkZ4dFMaWAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcjz-1BIgq4
I had the SQ8 and hated it. They took the relatively pleasant Q8 with a nice V6 and dropped in a V8 without touching the transmission or programming. The thing lurched around and the auto start-stop was a disaster. That was a 2021. Not sure if they fixed it, but in between two S classes, the SQ8 was an unpleasant 10 months.
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 11:56 PM
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I'm not an Audi fan just have to agree with guys in vids above that the Urus needed a V10 and the color palate is straight out of a pack of Skittles.
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Crito
Aww maaan, I'm trading in all my cars for a Purosangue in red just like this one, but with matte black trim like the blue one. Then I'm going to drive it to Walmart every single day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDZZ7CfcPaM
Nice V12 SUV. Not enough space for Hunting Gear. Would have to ship long guns cross country or buy a Massive Safe for buddy in Augusta, GA to store copies of my Favorite Rifles and Scopes. It's only money if hypothetically I can afford a Ferrari in the first place?

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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 12:10 AM
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I dunno, I was thinking there was enough room n the back for fishing gear. So I'm going to need a yacht too I guess. Yeah, maybe I should just buy that 5% certificate of deposit instead... oh well.
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 11:45 AM
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Adding HFCVs to Mercedes' selection of cars makes sense as the support for these vehicles grows. Your idea that HFCVs should be added alongside EVs in Mercedes’ worldwide range, instead of replacing them, is a good point.
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 08:33 PM
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Mercedesbuff, can you please elaborate further on the differences between the GLS and S. Since you own both I would really love the further hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Sure. It mainly comes down to two categories:

(1) NVH. The GLS either produces or permits noticeably more "noise, vibration and harshness," into the driving experience, compared to the S-Class. It's clear that more engineering time and/or more development money was spent on the S-Class, in the NVH department.
(2) Interior Materials and Switchgear. The lower door panels that attract permanent scuffs/scratches, the cheaper-looking dash material (even with MB-Tex uppers), the cheap-feeling button release to open the center console, the never comfortable 2nd-row headrests (even with captain's chairs), etc.

Again, I'm not a GLS hater... I really like ours. It's the "E-Class of SUVs," with a 3rd row. The E-Class is a fine car. The GLE/GLS is a fine SUV.

Hope that helps.
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mercedesbuff
Sure. It mainly comes down to two categories:

(1) NVH. The GLS either produces or permits noticeably more "noise, vibration and harshness," into the driving experience, compared to the S-Class. It's clear that more engineering time and/or more development money was spent on the S-Class, in the NVH department.
(2) Interior Materials and Switchgear. The lower door panels that attract permanent scuffs/scratches, the cheaper-looking dash material (even with MB-Tex uppers), the cheap-feeling button release to open the center console, the never comfortable 2nd-row headrests (even with captain's chairs), etc.

Again, I'm not a GLS hater... I really like ours. It's the "E-Class of SUVs," with a 3rd row. The E-Class is a fine car. The GLE/GLS is a fine SUV.

Hope that helps.
Sit in the driver's seat of a GLE vs GLS and you would be none the wiser. They are quite literally the same besides the 14" or so of extra boot at the end of a GLS. I would have loved a GLS if it was actually S-class-like but sadly it is not.

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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 05:44 AM
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I'd take an Aston Martin DBX 707 over an Urus too.

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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 12:06 PM
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Aston is too unreliable and depreciation is enough to give you a nosebleed.

I like the Urus because it has the VW Group reliability and while there is depreciation, it appears to be reasonable.

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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 07:03 PM
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The Urus is very popular and sounds like the right car for you.
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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 09:01 PM
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This morning I drove past an Urus in Grigio Telesto, what a great looking car. Somewhat understated from a distance, then the drama builds as you get closer.
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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 09:22 PM
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Oh slight correction, there IS a new 666 HP Lister Stealth. I'm not sure it's worth $150K or more though. A quick VelocityAP tune gets mine to 605 HP so not worth it to me anyways. She sure is purdy tho:



Read about it here: https://carbuzz.com/news/lister-cars...uar-f-pace-svr
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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 09:25 PM
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Here is a post from today where an Urus owner makes a few TGT vs Urus comparison comments. Read through the thread and Urus and other comparables are mentioned.

https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...l#post19299436
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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 09:57 PM
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Thanks Chassis. Very interesting. There is definitely something special about the Urus!!
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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 10:51 PM
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If Bubba's buying I'll take a green Performante so I can try rally mode on dirt. Sounds like it might be fun to go all Dukes of Hazard in a $270K SUV. Yeeeeehaaaaaaw!

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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba1
Aston is too unreliable and depreciation is enough to give you a nosebleed.

I like the Urus because it has the VW Group reliability and while there is depreciation, it appears to be reasonable.
For Aston, it's also hard to find spare parts. Plus, as you said, it's unreliable.
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 03:09 PM
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 04:20 PM
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My 2024 F-Pace has the same dash with curved infotainment screen. Pity Jaguar never updated the interiors of the F-type and I-Pace to be as nice. They both seemed one generation behind all of JLR's other vehicles.

Anxiously awaiting the electric Range Rover! My EQE SUV might go bye bye.
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 07:35 PM
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Better order one now! haha
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Old Feb 27, 2024 | 05:49 AM
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Just for completeness, the Maserai Levante with Ferrari V8. Definitely one of the best looking with the hood open. Too bad they didn't dress up the interior as nicely as the engine bay. I like my Jag's interior much better and it's $75K less expensive.


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Old Feb 27, 2024 | 12:51 PM
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The design of the Maseratti reminds Porsche Cayenne. Don't you find any similarities between them?
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Not really....
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