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what's the point of discussing fake image? One I provided is what it's gonna look like.
@Stremliner, those are not Mercedes stars, those are Chineses communist stars, MB following BMW in selling out.
what's the point of discussing fake image? One I provided is what it's gonna look like.
@Stremliner, those are not Mercedes stars, those are Chineses communist stars, MB following BMW in selling out.
The stars showing in the '26 refresh have been part of the MB logo for more than a century. They're not Chinese stars.
swell. thank you, dima! good stuff! not significantly different (exteriour) than current. maybe the engineers heard streamliner and are concentrating on interiour and excellent functionality!
Very nice but I don't like the MB star LEDs in the taillights.
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, '24 BMW I7 on order...
Originally Posted by Streamliner
Are they REALLY going to do that to the taillights? I feel that plastering the “star” all over the place is tacky, gauche and decidedly low rent. If they feel that they need this “in your face” crap for China, they could easily give the rest of the world plain taillights.
I’m quoting my own post. I don’t pay much attention to models I have no interest in, so I wasn’t aware that MB had put those ridiculous taillights on the new E Class, but they did. I saw one on the street this morning and I was just flabbergasted! I couldn’t believe it. The new E sedan is so unrefined looking, in my opinion. If they put those same, cheezy taillights on the facelift S Class, it will really bring the looks of the car way, WAY down, in my opinion.
I’m quoting my own post. I don’t pay much attention to models I have no interest in, so I wasn’t aware that MB had put those ridiculous taillights on the new E Class, but they did. I saw one on the street this morning and I was just flabbergasted! I couldn’t believe it. The new E sedan is so unrefined looking, in my opinion. If they put those same, cheezy taillights on the facelift S Class, it will really bring the looks of the car way, WAY down, in my opinion.
I saw one in person too, I thought the taillights will grow on me, I am disappointed it never even sprouted. That was the only thing I hate about the exterior of the W214.
I really hope the facelift W223 headlights aren't as bad as I thought, and apparently the facelift W223 taillights will have the same/similar design as the W214 just based on the camo spy shots hoping there are additional graphics that might make it look better.
When is the reveal anyways?
Last edited by W205C43PFL; 06-11-2024 at 04:44 PM.
relax, girls. i mean - honestly - how often do you see the rear tails (or the front headlamps for that matter) when you're driving. me thinks benzo will correct everything(?) with this refresh ... they sort of have to do so, right? i've been pressured (by the more important one to keep happy in my homestead) into ordering a '25 ... but ima gonna delay a year and order a '26 when i can. and enjoy the stuffing outta my '20 560 until then!!
The W214 is definitely the better looking car vs the W213 IMO and the stars don't bother me.
To even discuss those details seems odd, being such a minor detail. To me the W223 is an elegant car and even with a more logos it is a much more refined design overall vs the competition. After all, look at the BMW 7 series who splits the headlights into 2 separate groups (truck/SUV style) and installs them into clunky and inelegant exterior body. The whole car is so much in your face, the discussion of logos wouldn't even come up...
relax, girls. i mean - honestly - how often do you see the rear tails (or the front headlamps for that matter) when you're driving. me thinks benzo will correct everything(?) with this refresh ... they sort of have to do so, right? i've been pressured (by the more important one to keep happy in my homestead) into ordering a '25 ... but ima gonna delay a year and order a '26 when i can. and enjoy the stuffing outta my '20 560 until then!!
I agree, as usual I'm the outlier in that I like the stars......just goes to show my lowbrow nature I suppose lol.
Yeah, I don't understand this rediculous bickering. Is it a downgrade vs the pre facelift? Sure, but to me it's hardly offensive and after seeing the (quite beautiful imo) new E Class, the lights really don't stand aout at all like they do in renderings. Sometimes, it's okay to not feel a need to complain about every little thing.
Yeah, I don't understand this rediculous bickering. Is it a downgrade vs the pre facelift? Sure, but to me it's hardly offensive and after seeing the (quite beautiful imo) new E Class, the lights really don't stand aout at all like they do in renderings. Sometimes, it's okay to not feel a need to complain about every little thing.
Agree to disagree.
Honestly, the taillights are the only thing I dislike about the exterior of the W214, otherwise I do agree the side profile is an evolution/improvement to the W213. Me disliking the taillights is after seeing them in person (on the showroom floor, outside the dealership lot and on the road).
I just want to say it is personal preference after all.
Yeah, I don't understand this rediculous bickering. Is it a downgrade vs the pre facelift? Sure, but to me it's hardly offensive and after seeing the (quite beautiful imo) new E Class, the lights really don't stand aout at all like they do in renderings. Sometimes, it's okay to not feel a need to complain about every little thing.
Agreed 100%. What's even more ridiculous is how the stars in the taillights are "unrefined" but the blunt, chunky, overgrown, blocky, disjointed, incongruent design of the G70 7-Series isn't. Like at this point, it has to be trolling.
The stars are just tacky to me. “Look at me” tacky.
I also agree that they could have been done differently. To me, it’s too blocky and unrefined and not appealing at all like the real Mercedes star. They could at least make the star look more appealing and recognizable.
The W214 is definitely the better looking car vs the W213 IMO and the stars don't bother me.
To even discuss those details seems odd, being such a minor detail. To me the W223 is an elegant car and even with a more logos it is a much more refined design overall vs the competition. After all, look at the BMW 7 series who splits the headlights into 2 separate groups (truck/SUV style) and installs them into clunky and inelegant exterior body. The whole car is so much in your face, the discussion of logos wouldn't even come up...
Rolls Royce is doing that too.
This is a design trend you will see on more and more cars, I think.
Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Agree to disagree.
Honestly, the taillights are the only thing I dislike about the exterior of the W214, otherwise I do agree the side profile is an evolution/improvement to the W213. Me disliking the taillights is after seeing them in person (on the showroom floor, outside the dealership lot and on the road).
I just want to say it is personal preference after all.
I think you can dislike the taillight design and still like the overall car.
I think you can dislike the taillight design and still like the overall car.
Yes I do like the car a lot and as I previously mentioned it is a good evolution/improvement over the W213 overall. The taillight took a while and still haven't grew on me :/, I wouldn't say it is a deal breaker for me, honestly given how great the overall package the W214 is, maybe just maybe can get a W214 then change the taillights.
Agreed 100%. What's even more ridiculous is how the stars in the taillights are "unrefined" but the blunt, chunky, overgrown, blocky, disjointed, incongruent design of the G70 7-Series isn't. Like at this point, it has to be trolling.
Well, I am definitely not defending BMW. Will pick the W214 over recent BMWs easily. The taillight is such an eye shore on the W214 (to me and just to me really so there is that...)
For what it is worth, my family member still has their 2019 E 450 coupe and looking to upgrade, I actually recommended the W214 and specifically invited them to check out the tailights in person. However, I think the main deal breaker for her specifically was the fact she is going from coupe to sedan, she liked coupes and the closest option will then have to be the CLE, which to be honest isn't a bad choice but not exactly an E-Class. I also suggested her to look at the new AMG GT.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
The W214 is definitely the better looking car vs the W213 IMO and the stars don't bother me.
To even discuss those details seems odd, being such a minor detail. To me the W223 is an elegant car and even with a more logos it is a much more refined design overall vs the competition. After all, look at the BMW 7 series who splits the headlights into 2 separate groups (truck/SUV style) and installs them into clunky and inelegant exterior body. The whole car is so much in your face, the discussion of logos wouldn't even come up...
Well, as they say, that’s what makes the world go ‘round, right? We see things differently.
As I have mentioned before, I always thought the W223 was a nice looking car. However, due to my 18 month “experience from hell” with mine, I came to loathe the car in every which way possible. Obviously, only time will tell if my switch to the brand from Muenchen will turn out positive or negative, but the looks of the car, at least the way I have ordered it, have really grown on me. And, my car will be a very unusual sight where I live, as the vast majority of new 7’s I see are M-Sport models, so my car will be reasonably contrarian, which is something I like being—if you haven’t noticed. She’s finished and “awaiting carrier assignment,” as of today.
Like I said, I see a new E Class in my parking garage every day, and the star taillights don’t jump out at me or even catch my attention at all.
I am glad it works out for you, maybe because the taillight was talked about so much during the premiere and the shots empathsized it and when I went to see it in person to hopefully find it not intrusitve (to my eyes), I find it stand out too much and even intrusive.
I guess if I never watched the reveal and I didn't clearly go there to look for it, it might blend it and fly under the radar. Say for example if I was just the typical consumer that knows nothing about cars and I never watched reviews and approached the images of the W214. In that case, if my eyes didn't specifically search for those tailights, I might not have noticed it much.
Another thing is we also drove the vehicle to an underground garage to see how it looks at night when the lights are on, the stars really stands out which is the point MB is trying to get across anyways.
I am still considering this car to replace my W205 though as I do overall like it. Then I am also considering the C236 CLE.
This is a design trend you will see on more and more cars, I think.
Rolls Royce aka BMW has done a nice design job on the Spectre. Funny that the did such a clumsy one on the i7 (which happens also to be the donor car for the Spectre's EV tech). But RR's can afford a taller frontend due to their traditionally tall and dominant grill. BMW's kidneys less so.
Well, as they say, that’s what makes the world go ‘round, right? We see things differently.
As I have mentioned before, I always thought the W223 was a nice looking car. However, due to my 18 month “experience from hell” with mine, I came to loathe the car in every which way possible. Obviously, only time will tell if my switch to the brand from Muenchen will turn out positive or negative, but the looks of the car, at least the way I have ordered it, have really grown on me. And, my car will be a very unusual sight where I live, as the vast majority of new 7’s I see are M-Sport models, so my car will be reasonably contrarian, which is something I like being—if you haven’t noticed. She’s finished and “awaiting carrier assignment,” as of today.
I absolutely wish you a great ownership experience. I like BMW's and can appreciate the qualities of their cars. There are lot of things to like on the i7 but looks isn't one of it. That's of course my personal opinion but it happens to me with the iX. There are angles or parts of the car which look modern and well designed but then in-cohesive as a package due to some other shapes or angles they insisted on adding. Not a car you will fall in love with, just one you come to like and appreciate over time.
The i7 is BMW's money-pit, so great deals can be had...
06-10-2024, 02:05 PM
me thinks benzo will correct everything(?) with this refresh ... they sort of have to do so, right? i've been pressured (by the more important one to keep happy in my homestead) into ordering a '25 ... but ima gonna delay a year and order a '26 when i can. and enjoy the stuffing outta my '20 560 until then!!
She’s finished and “awaiting carrier assignment,” as of today.
