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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL

Edit: Forgot to comment on your inquiry of the screen, what don't you like about it? I think it is not bad at all.
Oh it just looks tacked on. This is the one remaining thing I really dislike about the W223 interior. I think the new hyperscreen is great. It looks integrated so no issues. But tacked on dashboard/center screens are a big turn off for me. But no one can have it all, even on a car!
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Definitely looks tacked on but when you're in the car it doesn't feel that way, at least on the all black dash like I have.
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
Oh it just looks tacked on. This is the one remaining thing I really dislike about the W223 interior. I think the new hyperscreen is great. It looks integrated so no issues. But tacked on dashboard/center screens are a big turn off for me. But no one can have it all, even on a car!
I have mixed opinions on the new hyper screen knowing the new GLC EV has the improved version of the hyperscreen with less bezels.
Speaking of tacked on screen, I remember Range Rover was proud to call it the "floating glass". https://www.rangerover.com/en-au/ran...echnology.html
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I saw my first Maybach S class (W223 today). I haven't gawked that long in a while.

I'm meh on the exterior of the W223 S class, but that Maybach.... after seeing the proportions of that car and the length etc, I think a refreshed Maybach S might be in my future. This is going to sound dickish and I apologize, but these things are...umm, relatively...erm, affordable. It's more than 2 Maybachs for a Ghost, so the way I'm looking at it is, I'm making a responsible choice.
My feelings about the Maybach are that it just isn’t better ENOUGH over a loaded S580. Of course, the V12 is nice, but the rest of the car is just a stretched S580. The trunk is the same size, as are all dimensions from the front seats forward. The only real plus is for rear seat passengers who get the extra leg room. I feel that a regular S Class is meant to be owner driven, while the Maybach is meant to be chauffeur driven. I do think that the exterior proportions of the Maybach look nicer than a regular S Class, but what bear to park.
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
Oh it just looks tacked on. This is the one remaining thing I really dislike about the W223 interior. I think the new hyperscreen is great. It looks integrated so no issues. But tacked on dashboard/center screens are a big turn off for me. But no one can have it all, even on a car!
That's true. And the interesting part is that they copied 100% of the dash from the EQS that launched in 2021, except exactly for that part of the screen. If you look at the EQS dash, it is mostly similar except that the driver screen is well integrated and NOT tacked on. The integrated EQS screen looks so much better in person than the tacked on one.

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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
I have mixed opinions on the new hyper screen knowing the new GLC EV has the improved version of the hyperscreen with less bezels.
Speaking of tacked on screen, I remember Range Rover was proud to call it the "floating glass". https://www.rangerover.com/en-au/ran...echnology.html
I think I'm doing a poor job at explaining myself sorry.

I'm referring to the screen behind the steering wheel. I don't like how Mercedes just has it sticking out without like a hood thing on top of it. For example on the Range Rover or on the Audi A8 it's a digital screen but it looks covered and not like an afterthought.

I very much originally hated the hyper screen but I've only come to accept it because the interior of the w223 preface lift was the most wretched thing I've ever seen in a flagship sedan. That design of the center console and the screen in the middle is unfortunately just not my thing and I'm respectful for people who have different opinions but my opinion is that I really did not like it. The hyper screen is an improvement and though while not really my cup of tea I think I will come to like it. I'm looking past the cost cutting of the w223 and I could point out all the things that I know that Mercedes has cost cut but there's really not a lot of other options anymore other than say BMW.

I'm a bit lazy so I didn't quote the right posters here but people are right that there's not a lot of cost justification for a Maybach but to be frank I'm probably the wrong person from a .. responsible with money type. I really really like the proportions of the Maybach and because I live in the middle of nowhere parking isn't really an issue because right now when I park my car I'm literally taking up two parking spots... The Phantom really does put everything in perspective because the one I got is a long wheelbase... I guess I'm compensating 🤣

But yes in all seriousness the Maybach would be a daily driver. I am now aware you can get the Maybach mode on the regular w223 which does make me pause but the proportions of the Maybach really elevate the stance of the S-Class in my opinion. I usually hate Chrome but when I saw that car in person today... I really really liked it.
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
the interior of the w223 preface lift was the most wretched thing I've ever seen in a flagship sedan. That design of the center console and the screen in the middle is unfortunately just not my thing and I'm respectful for people who have different opinions but my opinion is that I really did not like it. The hyper screen is an improvement and though while not really my cup of tea I think I will come to like it.

I really really like the proportions of the Maybach and because I live in the middle of nowhere parking isn't really an issue because right now when I park my car I'm literally taking up two parking spots... The Phantom really does put everything in perspective because the one I got is a long wheelbase... I guess I'm compensating 🤣 But yes in all seriousness the Maybach would be a daily driver. I am now aware you can get the Maybach mode on the regular w223 which does make me pause but the proportions of the Maybach really elevate the stance of the S-Class in my opinion. I usually hate Chrome but when I saw that car in person today... I really really liked it.
I 100% fully agree; exactly how I saw it and would describe the pre FL.

As for Maybach, the proportions look great and really give the car the character that it needs, moving it from boring to something that can potentially stand out.
Also, if you get the FL 580, instead of the Maybach, do yourself a favor and please order the advanced suspension setup with E-ABC. Knowing what you drive today, as someone not coming for cheaper brands or japanese cars, you will hate the car without E-ABC and will not like the ride. It can be great for some, but for you it will be an inferior product on the ride quality side. If you get the Maybach, you are covered as the E-ABC us standard in the case, and even further tuned for additional comfort. When you see the Maybach in person, the proportions look even better than photos. It's exactly what the 223 has always been missing to not look boring and to stand out a little in the parking lot.

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I can tell you that the center screen in front of the driver doesn't bug me at all, it was the thing I really disliked about the W223 when it first came out.

As for Maybachs, dealers here have them in stock from time to time. Not a lot of buyers at that price point.
It's funny, I thought the same thing initially, but after the facelift I started to like or rather, prefer, the "ipad" even more. They went screen happy with the FL. I know in the W214 E-class, the extended screen is optional. I wonder if its the same with the FL S.
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I wonder what the new S will have when the model changes in several years? Do you think Mercedes will go with a continuous screen that spans A pillar to A pillar? Dos that seems like the next logical step??
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
I think I'm doing a poor job at explaining myself sorry.

I'm referring to the screen behind the steering wheel. I don't like how Mercedes just has it sticking out without like a hood thing on top of it. For example on the Range Rover or on the Audi A8 it's a digital screen but it looks covered and not like an afterthought.

I very much originally hated the hyper screen but I've only come to accept it because the interior of the w223 preface lift was the most wretched thing I've ever seen in a flagship sedan. That design of the center console and the screen in the middle is unfortunately just not my thing and I'm respectful for people who have different opinions but my opinion is that I really did not like it. The hyper screen is an improvement and though while not really my cup of tea I think I will come to like it. I'm looking past the cost cutting of the w223 and I could point out all the things that I know that Mercedes has cost cut but there's really not a lot of other options anymore other than say BMW.

I'm a bit lazy so I didn't quote the right posters here but people are right that there's not a lot of cost justification for a Maybach but to be frank I'm probably the wrong person from a .. responsible with money type. I really really like the proportions of the Maybach and because I live in the middle of nowhere parking isn't really an issue because right now when I park my car I'm literally taking up two parking spots... The Phantom really does put everything in perspective because the one I got is a long wheelbase... I guess I'm compensating 🤣

But yes in all seriousness the Maybach would be a daily driver. I am now aware you can get the Maybach mode on the regular w223 which does make me pause but the proportions of the Maybach really elevate the stance of the S-Class in my opinion. I usually hate Chrome but when I saw that car in person today... I really really liked it.
All good maybe I understood you wrong instead and you explained just fine. The housing is typical in more sporty models like the R232 SL, the W223 is not meant to be sporty so MB felt like that housing wasn't necessary.
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
I think I'm doing a poor job at explaining myself sorry.

I'm referring to the screen behind the steering wheel. I don't like how Mercedes just has it sticking out without like a hood thing on top of it. For example on the Range Rover or on the Audi A8 it's a digital screen but it looks covered and not like an afterthought.
Much prefer the hooded approach of the Range Rover.

I very much originally hated the hyper screen but I've only come to accept it because the interior of the w223 preface lift was the most wretched thing I've ever seen in a flagship sedan. That design of the center console and the screen in the middle is unfortunately just not my thing and I'm respectful for people who have different opinions but my opinion is that I really did not like it.
Calling something "the most wretched thing you've ever seen" isn't very respectful of other people's opinions

I agree that its not a great design and I really went back and forth about upgrading specifically because of the interior design. BMW and the 7 it was the exterior, so its exterior vs interior lol. With that said, I have come to really like the interior. The screen is very functional and positioned well and it no longer looks weird or unfinished to me having lived with it for the past 2 years. What I don't like is the piano black console top and the way the console and screen have that cheap, plasticy edge on them. Very easy for them to have improved it, but they didn't. Facelift has solved these issues IMO, I would just leave the passenger screen off.

As for the Maybach, I think they are just over the top and garish. I'd just get a high, high spec 223 and skip the Maybach unless I was riding in the back. The console design is unchanged including the materials and it’s even more an issue at that price point.

My wife and I left home at the same time yesterday and I had to go pick up her Pacifica from service and she was in my S580 and I was behind her. It’s such a beautiful and elegant car.

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It's funny, I thought the same thing initially, but after the facelift I started to like or rather, prefer, the "ipad" even more. They went screen happy with the FL. I know in the W214 E-class, the extended screen is optional. I wonder if its the same with the FL S.
No, screen is standard in the S.

I like the big panel of wood in our car, but overall I think the FL design is an improvement.

It’s like BMW and Mercedes work together. Last time it was “okay, BMW you make the outside hideous this year, we will make the inside challenging”. Facelift time, okay BMW you get to make your interior difficult to swallow and we’ll borrow your ugly stick and smack our exterior a couple of times.

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Is there an option to "delete" a standard feature for example porsche allows you delete certain things at no cost.
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I dont think so, and certainly not the super screen, it would require a redesign of the dash.

Honestly I don't think its a big deal, just turn the passenger screen off and then its a big black sheet of glass.
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I dont think so, and certainly not the super screen, it would require a redesign of the dash.

Honestly I don't think its a big deal, just turn the passenger screen off and then its a big black sheet of glass.
Is it standard (passenger screen) in Europe on the base trim as well? Reason I asked if you can "delete" it is for those who want the say, base W214 layout with just a middle screen without passnger display, although I am fully aware there are differences between W214's superscreen and say EQS' hyperscreen.
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