dbvolz

First off, Iceman: nice kill!

Secondly, everybody else lay off the guy. He says he beat a viper, which anybody that knows the performance that any of the S/C 55's put down is completely viable. Now, if you disagree then say so but don't go calling BS on him like he just insulted your mom or something.

Lastly, to those "hating" (and yes, accusing someone or a situation that you know nothing about makes you one) on Iceman driving 150+ or the simple fact he beat a Viper in a performance sedan: Here in Germany we have plently of places to top out your car. People drive fast all the time, with less accidents. While it IS harder to get a driver's license in Germany, this doesn't nearly have as much to do with highway safety as the actual regulation on the driver's vehicle. While here in the states the most regulation is usually limited to smog/EPA certification or maybe "brake tags", driver's in Germany need to pass Tüv inspection on a consistent basis. As you will find, Tüv inspections are a lot more stringent than any US inspection I have ever been through. (Not to mention, every vehicle modification must be approved and listed in your vehiclke registration papers...)

I apologize for the long-winded reponse, but it simply bugs the ***** out of me when people are so quick to judge, without taking into account all of the variables.

sound 8

The Viper was probably stuck in 3rd gear.
Viper 0-60 under 4 secs, you will be lucky if you get 5.
I have a CL65 and i'm sure the viper would leave me.
still it's nice too dream.

V12Godspeed

Nope. Disagree, I have a friend that ran a viper SRT yellow, Nice black rims, Exhaust, etc this past weekend and he could not catch him if his life depended on it. He did him from a 40 MPH roll , he has a CL65 as well. I had front seats to the event, lol!

They launched it and immediately put 2-3 car lenghts and kept pulling, turned into a Bus lenghts event. Who knows maybe the SRT did not know how to drive...

V12Godspeed

Here...don't take my word for it...found exactly what I was looking for!! My dear ol' buddy sleeper X vs. SRT-10...did I say bus lenghts...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1e8KCkOng8

I know he went to trade his car in after this race...The SRT-10 that is.

Chauss

You should have put the Mopar exhaust on and got rid of the crossover...makes quite a difference in heat!

Code3 Performance

Sweet kill!~ Glad to see you had fun

iceman4149

Ohh yeah, re read my post and you'll see that we went at it 3 times all with the same outcome, no dreaming here.....

He was stuck alright, stuck on slow.

Don't believe it.... let's do it again.

whoover

Relax. You're arguing with the guy who claims he couldn't manage a kill with a 300 HP advantage.

https://mbworld.org/forums/cl55-amg-cl65-amg-cl63-amg-c215-c216/250956-amg-not-fast.html

iceman4149

Got you!

If I had know he was a troll, I would have not wasted my time responding to this douche with all his imaginary AMG's.

sound 8

What you don't understand is, it does not matter how much power you have,
if it's pushing a very heavy brick through the air.
Viper, has a slippery shape, weighs 1523 kg power to weight = 328bhp.
S55 barge, weighs 2400kg power to weight around 220bhp.
He let you beat him.
I imagine he looked in his mirror and thought , oh,oh, another boy racer
shall I bother, it looks like in your case he could not be bothered.
I am not knocking AMG cars, I love them, their fast and comfortable, but
on a race track I imagine they would find it hard to keep up with a Golf GTi.
I have been around racing cars and teams all my life, so I have some knowledge. What you need is car nappy, to stop the nasty grit hitting
your baby.

V12Godspeed

Dude you have got to be crazy...aren't you the guy that got beat by a standard M3 in a CL65....

ItalianStallion

I put buslengths on a Viper with just my headers and intake. I'm sure a 65 AMG would do the same.

V12Godspeed

I had a friend who took one rolling on his 65...he put bus lenghts as well...trust me I was there...lol!!

iceman4149

Ok.......

Let me take you to school son.....

Just because a car is a sports car that looks really slick does not mean is more aerodynamic.

Case in point the vipers Cd is .50 the benz w220 s class is 0.27 one of the most aerodynamics car period.

I laugh at you and your poser comments, claiming to have all those vehicles when I sincerely believe that the fastest thing you have ever been is the public bus system in whatever city you live in.

Do your research before you speak, better yet.....

Go away troll

You think people at this board are stupid???

Do you know how many of you posers have been exposed on this boards??

You people never learn.... let me see the dead give away is the CL65, SL 55, E55 and S600 you dream you own....

You forgot to add the Enzo, the Vyeron and the 234 foot yacht to that list of imaginary things you own.

Grow up fool.

E55_GT3wheels

are you serious? My E55 is SUPER stable at speeds even above 130MPH. I am not sure how you are claiming this.

sound 8

What's a Vyeron !!!
Oh you mean Veyron.
Wrong again... Viper cd .39 and S class .29. But the power to weight
is most important.
No I do not have an Enzo or Veyron, tried them but there not for me.
Picture enclosed you unbeliever, my yacht is not quite 75m and don't forget
the Stately Mansion.I part exchanged the E55 for a C320 to run around in. The E55 is the weakest, not quite a CL65 and not as comfortable as the S Class, and the E55 udersteered when pushed.
You should lighten up, the green eyed monster is showing.
We are all Mercedes brethren, I just don't believe you beat a Viper.

Carl Lassiter

Yes I am. Ask other members and longtime 55k owners like moderator Vic55.

It is stable compared to lesser cars but not in the context of its peers ala the M5, 996 Turbo etc.

Carl Lassiter

Just remember cD is a marketing figure and overall "slipperiness" is to do with a lot more than just this number.

AS I said earlier, all things being equal the Viper is the much faster car but anything can happen on a chance encounter so good run.

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

They're AWFUL at highway speeds. It might seem stable to you, but hop in an M5 and you will be evangelized. I've had a ton of seat time in E55's and SL55's (thanks Sunny for always letting me run around in your cars) and they're just super sloppy on the highway, not confidence inspiring at all.

whoover

The S-class is the chassis built for high-speed stability. On a trip to LA, we were doing 140 MPH on an empty stretch of I-5 and my wife had NO idea. I asked her to guess our speed, she looked up from her newspaper and said "You must be doing 90. Slow down."

I've taken it to 150 and it feels like it's on rails. No twitchiness at all. And it felt that there was way more to go.

Suprfknman

BMW M cars have a much stiffer suspension vs the merc adjustable suspension. The bmw is much more harsh especially with a coilover suspension where the merc is comfortable like your driving on a couch. Im sure if you gutted the suspension on the merc and put in coilovers with a little negative camber and it will handle like the beemer. 2 different cars though they both have their positives.
Will

iceman4149

Noted.

And like I said again, I respectfully disagree, get another viper and we will try it once again.

iceman4149

Says the BMW M% owner, we all know in this forum that the M5 is the end all and be all of performance sedans....

And with all due respect, we are not talking about the E or sl55 for that matter, we are talking about the S55 amg, which anyone that has driven one at high speeds knows how stable, planted and not at all twitchy it is.

I have driven the M5 for a weekend from my car broker to see if it was a car that was going to fit my driving style, and unfortunately, although is a brilliant automobile is pretty much unusable in heavy traffic (atlanta) and you have to drive it like you stole it to get the "performance power" out of it.

And lets not even talk about the SMG transmission, that although super cool when you are driving spiritedly, is pretty unrefined and plain annoying in any of the lower non performance settings.

Quite frankly sir, two completely different cars, in class, size and purpose.

iceman4149

I agree about the stiffness, but to characterize the s55 suspension as a "couch" is inaccurate, if you have ever set the stiffest setting on the abc suspension, it is not plush at all.

iceman4149

Thank you for pointing out my misspelling of the vehicle name, as this is the only accurate thing in your post son.

I can care less about what you believe, quite frankly I won't loose any sleep over it, I know what happened and that's all is important to me.

I have no need to prove or disprove it, I just wanted to share my story, period, end of story.

Now, you infantile troll go post on the SL65 black forum, better now that I think about it, since you own all those AMG's how come you don't post in the AMG Private Lounge, see in that forum you just can't say you own an AMG, you need an actual VIN # to join.

Until I see proof of anything different you are nothing but a Troll