Noobie S55 AMG Questions
I've done a bit of research, and it looks like a black on black '03 around 60K miles is what I'm looking for. I'm pleasantly surprised that they seem to be in the $26-$29K range. I have time to wait for the right one and in the meantime I'd value any opinions and recommendations as to what to look for.
I see a few recommendations for a warranty - is this worth it/possible on an 03?
If (when) I have it checked is there anything special a mechanic should look for?
A friend read somewhere (an anonymous internet forum - who would listen to someone there
) to avoid early build dates - is that true and which months are early?I've also heard horror stories about the electrical system in these things - is that true? Any clues as to it about to be a problem?
Are there any options I should be looking for or avoiding?
I'm curious as to why there are so few '04s out there. I see from this thread they only half as many '04s - anyone know why?
I've been chatting to one of the other posters on this board about his car for sale - I'd like to check it out if it's still around next week, in which case I may need a recommendation for a shop to check over it. Sorry for so many questions - I can't get that bug out of my head!
I've done a bit of research, and it looks like a black on black '03 around 60K miles is what I'm looking for. I'm pleasantly surprised that they seem to be in the $26-$29K range. I have time to wait for the right one and in the meantime I'd value any opinions and recommendations as to what to look for.
I see a few recommendations for a warranty - is this worth it/possible on an 03?
If (when) I have it checked is there anything special a mechanic should look for?
A friend read somewhere (an anonymous internet forum - who would listen to someone there
) to avoid early build dates - is that true and which months are early?I've also heard horror stories about the electrical system in these things - is that true? Any clues as to it about to be a problem?
Are there any options I should be looking for or avoiding?
I'm curious as to why there are so few '04s out there. I see from this thread they only half as many '04s - anyone know why?
I've been chatting to one of the other posters on this board about his car for sale - I'd like to check it out if it's still around next week, in which case I may need a recommendation for a shop to check over it. Sorry for so many questions - I can't get that bug out of my head!
I've had my black on black 03 S55 for 2 months and am fully satisfied. I paid $28,500 plus tax and tag for it with about 53,000 miles. It was a local SoCal 1 owner car in original mint condition. The brakes were getting low, so I went ahead and replaced the rotors and pads front and rear - $1,300 from an indy using OEM parts.
I'm told that the ABC suspension can be a problem and is an expensive fix ($2,500 to $3,000) and the supercharger chirp bothers some owners. My car chirps and I feel the jerk when the SC is engaged. My extensive research on this and other forums has shown that this is "normal" so I don't let it bother me. I've read that some who have eliminated the chirp have also, inadvertently, eliminated some of the power that goes along with it, but I can't verify this first hand.
As they say, they there's no used car factory, so it's likely you will have to make some compromises as far as options, color and build date, but don't compromise on condition! My car appears to have no options, except for a gorgeous wood AMG steering wheel that feels to have been molded exactly for my hands. No keyless go, no power closing trunk and no parktronic, which my other MB has.
I really wanted parktronic, as I've become perhaps overly-reliant upon it on my GL450, and have had to develop my own instinctive radar when parallel parking. The 203 inch car takes a while to get used to.
The benefit to a car with few options is that there's less to go wrong with it, although parktronic would've been nice. Apparently keyless go can be tricky and lead to battery drains, but again, I have no first had experience with that option. This is just what I've read on forums.
I'm told a warranty is possible for the S55, whereas the V12 is another story. I'm still covered by my dealer's limited warranty and may just wing it when it expires. I have confidence in this car.
The 03 has the CD based Nav, which works better than I expected. An ipod hook up is expensive because the electronics are not the updated MOST kind found in 04 and up. The good news is that you can plug an ipod into the aux jack in the glove compartment, hit the service button on the COMAND, cycle through some options and you're all set. You just can't control it from the steering wheel or COMAND.
BTW, the other day I had to buy a specially fitted S55 plastic front license plate bracket (CA law) and could only find one from the dealer. It's a $5.00 piece of plastic so I was thinking it would be $25 to $40. I know Mercedes mark-ups due to my GL450 ownership. The price? $182. When I asked why, the parts guys explained "because it's AMG."
Anyway, good luck in your search, but remember, you may be buying a $30,000 car, but you'll be maintaining a $118,000 exotic.
Best,
qcar
Thanks for the info, I hadn't heard about the 'chirp' - I'll do some research on it so I don't worry as much if I hear it.
for an '04, the "puck with tail" BT adapter is a 15 minute plug & play job that cost < $400 (I got mine for $210).
there's a thread on another board with great info on this, and once I find out if it's cool to post that link I'll add it to this thread
edit: thinking more about it, I think it's more than just adding bluetooth, I think it's adding the handfree through COMAND. My 04 did not have the phone option installed, but after adding the puck, and a computer reconfiguration (for free, thanks John C. at Tyson's MB!) I have handsfree phone, including dialing through COMAND and steering wheel controls.
Last edited by i_am_amused; Aug 21, 2009 at 08:38 AM.
$32K, 17K miles
have:
keyless go, parktronic, heated/ventilated front seats, power trunk
don't have:
power/heated/ventilated rear seats, distronic, cell phone setup
If you're wondering about your car (or one you're considering purchasing), open the glove box and look on the left hand side. It's a minijack socket.
Hope this helps.
qcar
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I'm told that the ABC suspension can be a problem and is an expensive fix ($2,500 to $3,000) and the supercharger chirp bothers some owners. My car chirps and I feel the jerk when the SC is engaged. My extensive research on this and other forums has shown that this is "normal" so I don't let it bother me. I've read that some who have eliminated the chirp have also, inadvertently, eliminated some of the power that goes along with it, but I can't verify this first hand.
As they say, they there's no used car factory, so it's likely you will have to make some compromises as far as options, color and build date, but don't compromise on condition! My car appears to have no options, except for a gorgeous wood AMG steering wheel that feels to have been molded exactly for my hands. No keyless go, no power closing trunk and no parktronic, which my other MB has.
I really wanted parktronic, as I've become perhaps overly-reliant upon it on my GL450, and have had to develop my own instinctive radar when parallel parking. The 203 inch car takes a while to get used to.
The benefit to a car with few options is that there's less to go wrong with it, although parktronic would've been nice. Apparently keyless go can be tricky and lead to battery drains, but again, I have no first had experience with that option. This is just what I've read on forums.
I'm told a warranty is possible for the S55, whereas the V12 is another story. I'm still covered by my dealer's limited warranty and may just wing it when it expires. I have confidence in this car.
The 03 has the CD based Nav, which works better than I expected. An ipod hook up is expensive because the electronics are not the updated MOST kind found in 04 and up. The good news is that you can plug an ipod into the aux jack in the glove compartment, hit the service button on the COMAND, cycle through some options and you're all set. You just can't control it from the steering wheel or COMAND.
BTW, the other day I had to buy a specially fitted S55 plastic front license plate bracket (CA law) and could only find one from the dealer. It's a $5.00 piece of plastic so I was thinking it would be $25 to $40. I know Mercedes mark-ups due to my GL450 ownership. The price? $182. When I asked why, the parts guys explained "because it's AMG."
Anyway, good luck in your search, but remember, you may be buying a $30,000 car, but you'll be maintaining a $118,000 exotic.
Best,
qcar
when your warranty expires get chrysler warranty, i boiught my '05 s55 with 58K miles 6 months ango and have warranty up to 124K miles for just $2400. i Took my car in for AC repair and mifiring cylinder and they cover everything except $200 which is my deductible. you can pay more and eliminate the deductible.
In my case with ABC pump replacement, Svc. Advisor entered the data and 15 seconds later it was approved.
I am not saying other warranties are bad but I doubt they are as good.
How long is the tranny good for normally on these cars? Any other maintenance issues around this mileage to be aware of?
Last edited by plastique999; Sep 16, 2009 at 05:40 PM.
Tranny should last forever.



