V12 - power limits?
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V12 - power limits?
Picked up an E55 AMG (W211) in Feburary, and love it. Thinking about getting an S65 as a second car/project.
Trying to see how far the car can be pushed without too much effort. Was talking to Jerry at Eurocharged, he mentioned a TT V12 running Precision turbos, making 900whp on a stock motor/trans? Is that possible? I did some searching and couldn't find any info. Has anyone run larger aftermarket turbos and manifolds, ditching the factory one piece setup? Does anyone know what breaks on the V12 engines and trannies, and at what point?
Trying to see how far the car can be pushed without too much effort. Was talking to Jerry at Eurocharged, he mentioned a TT V12 running Precision turbos, making 900whp on a stock motor/trans? Is that possible? I did some searching and couldn't find any info. Has anyone run larger aftermarket turbos and manifolds, ditching the factory one piece setup? Does anyone know what breaks on the V12 engines and trannies, and at what point?
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Picked up an E55 AMG (W211) in Feburary, and love it. Thinking about getting an S65 as a second car/project.
Trying to see how far the car can be pushed without too much effort. Was talking to Jerry at Eurocharged, he mentioned a TT V12 running Precision turbos, making 900whp on a stock motor/trans? Is that possible? I did some searching and couldn't find any info. Has anyone run larger aftermarket turbos and manifolds, ditching the factory one piece setup? Does anyone know what breaks on the V12 engines and trannies, and at what point?
Trying to see how far the car can be pushed without too much effort. Was talking to Jerry at Eurocharged, he mentioned a TT V12 running Precision turbos, making 900whp on a stock motor/trans? Is that possible? I did some searching and couldn't find any info. Has anyone run larger aftermarket turbos and manifolds, ditching the factory one piece setup? Does anyone know what breaks on the V12 engines and trannies, and at what point?
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M275 power limits? There are none. They are used to generate power for the anti-gravity/multi dimensional crafts we call UFOs..
jk, limitations are as much as the depths of your pockets.
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That's total BS..
Picked up an E55 AMG (W211) in Feburary, and love it. Thinking about getting an S65 as a second car/project.
Trying to see how far the car can be pushed without too much effort. Was talking to Jerry at Eurocharged, he mentioned a TT V12 running Precision turbos, making 900whp on a stock motor/trans? Is that possible? I did some searching and couldn't find any info. Has anyone run larger aftermarket turbos and manifolds, ditching the factory one piece setup? Does anyone know what breaks on the V12 engines and trannies, and at what point?
Trying to see how far the car can be pushed without too much effort. Was talking to Jerry at Eurocharged, he mentioned a TT V12 running Precision turbos, making 900whp on a stock motor/trans? Is that possible? I did some searching and couldn't find any info. Has anyone run larger aftermarket turbos and manifolds, ditching the factory one piece setup? Does anyone know what breaks on the V12 engines and trannies, and at what point?
I've modded the hell out of my V12tt & unless you add nitrous for temp rice powa you'll never see anything close to 900 rwp w/out larger turbs & proper shorty headers to handle extra airflow & see 800-850 rwhp MAX for this platform Though rwtq will exceed 1000-1100+ if you build trans to handle it
I have the Speedriven Turbo/Header kit on order, should be in my Techs hands in next 8-12 wks (waiting on Custom Tial wheels) Will post Pre-Post Dynos
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Hang on a second......before jumping to conclusions and call BS on people dig a little deeper. This was from a while ago. Its nothing close to a stock setup, gutted ABC, full cage different rear. In the end I think he ended up needing tranny upgrades, but I think its still a stock V12TT motor, just a custom build. He is a guy to ask questions and give credit to for thinking outside the box and doing most of the work himself. It may not be the path most are willing to follow, but the topic was "V12 power limits". Not to be mistaken for only upgrading stock turbo wheel.
https://mbworld.org/forums/m275-v12-...66-120mph.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/m275-v12-...66-120mph.html
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Not being cynical nor jumping to conclusions..
Hang on a second......before jumping to conclusions and call BS on people dig a little deeper. This was from a while ago. Its nothing close to a stock setup, gutted ABC, full cage different rear. In the end I think he ended up needing tranny upgrades, but I think its still a stock V12TT motor, just a custom build. He is a guy to ask questions and give credit to for thinking outside the box and doing most of the work himself. It may not be the path most are willing to follow, but the topic was "V12 power limits". Not to be mistaken for only upgrading stock turbo wheel.
https://mbworld.org/forums/m275-v12-...66-120mph.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/m275-v12-...66-120mph.html
VS this thread asking what are the power limits w/little effort IE only utilizing Stock Motor & Trans ONLY modifying turbo's (admittedly I thought the turbo modification on 900 rwp V12tt rumor was just upgraded Precision comp wheels, not completely larger 58mm new turbo's Dynodaddy mega-build made 800-860 rwp including that combo not 900 etc)
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I don't doubt you or your proven experience, so based on it not being difficult, it seems safe to assume the motor's limits aren't really the thing to focus on. The remainder of the drivetrain handling the power becomes the weaker link. I realize you have provided tranny upgrades but what about the driveshaft, ring gear, pinion, axles? At some point under sticky tire situations the torque is bound to do some serious damage. Is this something you will be addressing with your big hp packages? Also based on these motors having so much torque what is to be expected with the 1000hp setup? Sorry if I'm a little of topic.
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The build you're referencing is Dynodaddy's CL600, it's utilizing 58 mm Precision Turbo's Large Top Mount IC's/ Larger Fuel INJ's/ Larger custom Manifolds/ Fuel cell/Water trunk tank/Custom Trans build/TC/custom CAI/ etc etc etc...
VS this thread asking what are the power limits w/little effort IE only utilizing Stock Motor & Trans ONLY modifying turbo's (admittedly I thought the turbo modification on 900 rwp V12tt rumor was just upgraded Precision comp wheels, not completely larger 58mm new turbo's Dynodaddy mega-build made 800-860 rwp including that combo not 900 etc)
VS this thread asking what are the power limits w/little effort IE only utilizing Stock Motor & Trans ONLY modifying turbo's (admittedly I thought the turbo modification on 900 rwp V12tt rumor was just upgraded Precision comp wheels, not completely larger 58mm new turbo's Dynodaddy mega-build made 800-860 rwp including that combo not 900 etc)
I didn't think something like this would slip passed you. LOL I agree 860 is not 900.
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I'd love to make 1000+ rwp
so if that's the case a hi octane file should indeed net 1k rwp)We'll just have to wait a bit & see what my SL can put down
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