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Replacing my daily S63

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Old Jul 21, 2021 | 12:27 PM
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Replacing my daily S63

My ordered M5 CS is coming within next 2-3 weeks to replace my S63.
It used to be easy for me, new car came, I traded my old car in and paid the sales tax on the difference, thus reducing the advantage of retail vs wholesale.
Now, with the new law in Illinois, the new car is taxed almost fully (you get credit only on first 10K of trade in value) so it makes the delta between retail and wholesale significantly higher.
Never sold my car privately (Carrera GT and 575SA being exception and both were sold by me sight unseen, never met the buyer in person and got a wire transfer as payment), so I am not sure how to go about it.
I hate having potential buyers coming to my house and worse, having an unknown individual test drive my car.
It's a 2019 S63, Silver with Matte clear wrap done before delivery($12k, thicker film and very, very high quality, most people can not recognize it was not a real paint), MSRP at $174k, CF package, CF/Alcantara steering wheel), 18k miles, Renntech module allowing unlimited re-flash to 700+HP (only this particular VIN).
No scratches, accidents, full service records.
Knauz is giving me 105k.
I'd like to hear what you guys would recommend,








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Old Jul 22, 2021 | 08:12 PM
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Most cars on Autotrader in your year and mileage are in the mid to high 120’s. So that’s a good reference. You can try BAT or Doug’s auction site Cars and Bids.
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 09:44 PM
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I was going to say Bringatrailer as well. I've sold a few cars on there.

I hate the tax change in Illinois as well. Would do the Montana plate thing if I thought it wouldn't cause me problems.
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 11:29 PM
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Trade it in anyway... such a total hassle to sell on your own these days. That's what I'd do. Unless you want to deal with tirekickers potentially coming to your home again and again and again.

So the M5 Competition instead of a 2 year old S63? Curious....why? I LOVE the M5... it's so hot looking but hardly anyone ever trades in this direction.
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 09:02 AM
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Trade it in anyway... such a total hassle to sell on your own these days. That's what I'd do. Unless you want to deal with tirekickers potentially coming to your home again and again and again.

So the M5 Competition instead of a 2 year old S63? Curious....why? I LOVE the M5... it's so hot looking but hardly anyone ever trades in this direction.
I came to the same conclusion, not going to risk the hassle of dealing with strangers (live on the Lake and some folks have a strange reaction when they see it and make inappropriate $$ comments).
Knauz offer after all is not that terrible also and a possible money difference is probably not worth the effort of selling myself.
Btw, it is not a Competition model, rather a Limited (time of production) model CS (Club Sport).
I was offered the allocation and decided to try and enjoy it for a while (until S73 or GT73 arrives) and essentially drive it for free (expected resale having nothing in common with a regular M5 Comp.)







https://www.bmwusa.com/limited-editi...les/m5-cs.html
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 09:38 AM
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It is frickin' gorgeous!!! Are those side bolsters on the seat a bit of a bear to get into from outside the car? It's so aggressive looking, totally different than the luxury S63. Club Sport? Limited run of cars? SO SWEET!!!!!!!!!! Love the seat belts, too. Everything about it screams... cool as hell.
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Old Jul 30, 2021 | 07:35 AM
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It is frickin' gorgeous!!! Are those side bolsters on the seat a bit of a bear to get into from outside the car? It's so aggressive looking, totally different than the luxury S63. Club Sport? Limited run of cars? SO SWEET!!!!!!!!!! Love the seat belts, too. Everything about it screams... cool as hell.
Seats are a workout to get in but once in, very comfortable and hold you in all the right places, firm but very comfy at the same time.
It definitely is not going to be as easy as the S-Class in daily use but I will give it a try.
At least it's going to motivate me to continue my Yoga and Pilates routine, my younger brother who suffers from some excess luggage he carries around, found these seats impossible to use.
This is the only interior available anyway, car is lighter then regular M5 and has a bit more power but as a total package just works flawlessly according to reviewers.
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 11:42 AM
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M5 and S63 are too very different cars. Those seats are for track days not long highway rides. You would be better off with the regular model or even a M550I with the Dinan package.


Didn't you have more Renntech stuff on the car? Upgraded turbo's? If so I could be buyer and could care less where you live just send ck and shipping Co.
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I can vouch for them seats, you can also get them on the M3 saloon as an option here in the UK, they look uncomfortable but I love them, so comfortable. Sometimes a pain to get out off but there is a technique. You will love them
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Ooh, does the seat emblem illuminate?
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Old Aug 23, 2021 | 12:25 PM
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Those M5CS seats are great and hold you in place nicely. They also offer these for the M8. Clearly not comparable to an S-Class but very much like any AMG performance seat (in terms of bolsters) and the BS will require a bit more work for entry/exit. The CF piece between your legs definitely makes for an interesting design element but could have been left out
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Old Aug 24, 2021 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DABRONX
M5 and S63 are too very different cars. Those seats are for track days not long highway rides. You would be better off with the regular model or even a M550I with the Dinan package.


Didn't you have more Renntech stuff on the car? Upgraded turbo's? If so I could be buyer and could care less where you live just send ck and shipping Co.
You are right about the turbos, upgraded by Renntech indeed.
You have probably missed my unfortunate adventure with getting some unknown substance mixed with gas (for the life of me, I could not remember which of the usual 4 stations I used, left for 2 weeks right after and could not recall where it was)
Gas tank, fuel lines, injectors, pump had to be replaced, Renntech propellers were bent and I had to replace them with stock parts (I had no desire to spend additional $20k plus for Renntech units again).
I have dropped the car off at Knauz (for them to sell) last Friday, have Plaid to use for now as daily and wait for the delayed yet again M5.
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