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Old Oct 29, 2023 | 09:56 AM
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Best S63 Available ?

I’ve been shopping for an E63 but have kept an eye out for any good S63 that might pop up. Seems to me like this one is the best one available at my $70-80k budget.

Link here: https://www.autotrader.com/marketpla...ngId=691915499


No CCBs - anyone see anything else I am missing about it? Got any other others out there somewhere ?

I am willing to be patient to get a special car - the right miles, the right options, the right price.
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Old Oct 29, 2023 | 01:39 PM
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You should contact the seller and see if he can provide you witha full Carfax report. Then call your local dealer and see if you can get a VMI, it will provide you more information than what you get on a Carfax. If this guy is a finance manager at a dealership, like what it says in the listing, he might be able to provide the VMI, but only if he works at a MB dealership, or so I think.

Based on price, mileage, and options, this looks like a great deal. If you like those options they you're golden. Some people want the 3D burmester system and some don't. One of the nicest S63's on the planet is equipped incredibly well, but I wouldn't touch it because it doesn't have a heated steering wheel...but that just me, some people could care less - as I probably would if I lived in a warm climate. Options are based on what you desire, if it fits what you want, then it's a great deal.

Here's a link where you can see all the options: https://www.mbdecoder.com/decode/WDDUG8JB9JA415881
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Old Nov 1, 2023 | 12:41 AM
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OP keep looking for one with Carbon Ceramic brakes. They don’t add much in resale but are worth having.

Best S63 he asks? An S65 with CCB. It will have all the other goodies and that wonderful 279 Bent-12.

Drive one OP.
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Old Nov 1, 2023 | 10:23 AM
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On autotrader there are currently 80 used S63's across the country. I found one with CCB but it was over your price range at 85K. I would not limit your search to only CCB equipped cars. CCB is nice to have but can also have potential downsides, there have been reports of delaminating rotors and rock chip damage to CC rotors that are not covered by the warranty. Also, you may not need a brake job as often with CCB brakes but if and when you do need one, it is substantially more expensive than standard brakes. You can get Carbon Ceramic pads for the standard AMG brake set up that work just as well and have zero dust as well. I really wanted CCB on my current car but could not find one with low enough miles and all of the other options I wanted. S65 is awesome as well but out of the 10 examples currently available across the country, none of them are under 100K, and most are way over 100K. This is for 2018 and newer examples. I would not recommend going older than 2018 on either the S63 or S65 because of the tech upgrades on the facelift that happened on the 2018MY. Additionally, there are programmers on this site that can program the S63 to have the comfort mode of the S580, which is much smoother so then you do truly have a luxury cruiser in comfort mode and a beast in Sport+ mode, and don't forget about AWD if that is a factor where you drive.
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Old Nov 1, 2023 | 11:35 AM
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Busted up CCB rotors are rare. Worn out iron rotors are normal. CCB pads worn out? Replace pads, apply just a dab of lubricant where the pads touch the calipers at each end of the pads. No need to machine rotors that will have zero wear after 60-90,000 miles to wear the pads out. There is also the benefit of the CCB reducing unsprung weight by 20+ pounds PER CORNER of the car. An S65 will have Magic Body Control. No pesky sway bars to lift inside tires when you are being a savage. No body roll. Excellent ride. Drive one. I just wish for AWD. Not that is such an issue here in Phoenix where it is mostly dry. That would likely peel a second from the 0-60 time to get to under three seconds to 60. Not that it is needed. She already surprises all the ‘Muscle cars’ including those that are force-fed. Love me some AMG Crack. The test drive was my first hit of it and I’m hooked for life.

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Old Nov 1, 2023 | 11:57 AM
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All valid points JL, I just think this one requirement really limits the car choices that the OP is looking at as this is a very rare option on the S63. I would rather have the right car with the right options and not have CCB as I consider it a nice to have, not a have to have on a heavy sedan.
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Old Nov 1, 2023 | 01:20 PM
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I am willing to be patient to get a special car - the right miles, the right options, the right price.
OP’s words. My gentle suggestion being to try one.
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Old Nov 1, 2023 | 01:33 PM
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All valid points JL, I just think this one requirement really limits the car choices that the OP is looking at as this is a very rare option on the S63. I would rather have the right car with the right options and not have CCB as I consider it a nice to have, not a have to have on a heavy sedan.
Having had a 221 S65 that forever had warped brakes... even after fitting the big brake kit with upsized rotors on hats and solid calipers (I have mentioned that I’m a bit of a savage; no?).....

I have no idea if the 222 AMG cars with iron brakes are as inclined to warp as the 221 did. The 2014 S550 I had (iron brakes... not AMG) never warped brakes but they were small so I never hammered on them. I’ve certainly heard of how the iron brakes still wear out in a hurry... no doubt much less an issue with careful choice of brake pads.

I well and truly abuse my Carbon Ceramic brakes daily then park it with hot brakes. They don’t warp. They don’t wear to speak of and there is no dust... no drama. If the 221 S65 were so equipped I would likely have not traded it off for the 222 car with CCB.

A 222 S Class is a 4800lb car. You sure CCB is a ‘want?’
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If I hadn't bought mine I'd be VERY intrested in this well optioned car: https://www.phillipsauto.com/vehicle...ca-id-54178442

I've never bought from that dealership but I've seen it when traveling to SoCal. That car was originally bought at the #1 MB dealership in the USA, great history.
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Old Nov 2, 2023 | 03:31 PM
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I've seen superpop's post about putting ceramic pads on the S63 and that seems like it's a good compromise because of how rare CCB's are on these. @carlosinseattle great car, thanks for sharing, I reached out to the.

It doesn't seem like a S65 is in the cards budget-wise for me right now. I do have a 991.2 911 TT so I have something for spirited driving - this is to drive to work, take the kids to sports, etc.

Thanks for all the input, I appreciate it. Will keep driving and looking until I find the one for me.
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Just for fun, I looked for S65. None of the less than 10 for sale later than 2018 are less than $110k.

There are more pre-2018, I think the look of this one is amazing and it seems to be well optioned , but 2 accidents and it’s a 2015. I’ve never driven a 65 so don’t know what I’m missing . Seems like if you want a 65 you have to be patient because there just aren’t many of them.

https://www.powerautogrouptx.com/inv...-class/152175/
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Drive it if you are close enough. You will then be able to compare and contrast the S63 vs S65. They drive differently. They sound very different. Take it through some turns... notice the utter lack of body roll.... over bumps... Magic Body Control is just that.... Magic.
I love my S65. CCB makes it ride even better due to reduced unsprung weight.
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Originally Posted by reedsutton
Just for fun, I looked for S65. None of the less than 10 for sale later than 2018 are less than $110k.

There are more pre-2018, I think the look of this one is amazing and it seems to be well optioned , but 2 accidents and it’s a 2015. I’ve never driven a 65 so don’t know what I’m missing . Seems like if you want a 65 you have to be patient because there just aren’t many of them.

https://www.powerautogrouptx.com/inv...-class/152175/
Interesting car...basically long periods of time sitting idle. That's a steep price tag for an almost 9 year old car, but maybe it's worth it for the low mileage. If it's close by you should definitely check it out, drive it and get a feel for it. If you don't buy it you can keep it as a comparison to other cars you'll drive in the future. As far as S63 vs S65, that's totally up to you. If I didn't live in Seattle and travel to Montana I might have considered an S65, but definitely wasn't an option for me. I wouldn't pass on a car for not having CCB brakes. You can always change the pads like Superpop did. And for real world driving there is no performance advantage to CCB brakes, just less brake dust and fewer pad and rotor changes. I had planned to wait until spring to install the pads but I might change my mind. I have less than 100 miles since a full detail and the wheels already show tons of brake dust while the rest of the car still looks great.

If you're willing to go for a 2015, here's an S63 fro you: https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WDDUG7JB4FA189203

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