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Old Jan 16, 2025 | 09:09 PM
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Welp, had a little bit of a heart attack last night as my wife asked me why there was an oil spot in my parking spot in the garage. Looked and sure enough there was a small spot of oil. Panicked and called my local MB dealer and they got me in right away. Excellent service at MB of Seattle. I also called Fidelity as that is who my warranty is with and they were super nice as well. Got a call a few hours later from the SA saying the underside of my car is bone dry and they could not find a single drop of oil anywhere. They let it run for 2 hours and scoured the bottom of the car and could find nothing. As it turns out my daughter had parked her car in my spot this weekend and failed to mention this to me. After looking at her car, I am pretty sure I know where the oil came from. I sheepishly called the SA and told him what I suspected. He chuckled and said no worries, your car is buttoned up and ready to go. Did a no charge multipoint inspection and gave the old girl a clean bill of health, highly recommend them for service.
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Old Jan 17, 2025 | 06:40 AM
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Good thing you had a false alarm!

However, I did not have a false alarm.

It is well settled that the '18, '19 and '20 S63 AMGs are prone to have leaks at the rear main seal of the motor. At about 56000 miles late last year it cost me $7k to fix the oil leak from the rear main seal.

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Old Jan 17, 2025 | 06:00 PM
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Welp, had a little bit of a heart attack last night as my wife asked me why there was an oil spot in my parking spot in the garage. Looked and sure enough there was a small spot of oil. Panicked and called my local MB dealer and they got me in right away. Excellent service at MB of Seattle. I also called Fidelity as that is who my warranty is with and they were super nice as well. Got a call a few hours later from the SA saying the underside of my car is bone dry and they could not find a single drop of oil anywhere. They let it run for 2 hours and scoured the bottom of the car and could find nothing. As it turns out my daughter had parked her car in my spot this weekend and failed to mention this to me. After looking at her car, I am pretty sure I know where the oil came from. I sheepishly called the SA and told him what I suspected. He chuckled and said no worries, your car is buttoned up and ready to go. Did a no charge multipoint inspection and gave the old girl a clean bill of health, highly recommend them for service.
Wow, my heart would have dropped out of my chest! But really glad it wasn't the dreaded RMS issue. Like you, I've received top notch service from MB of Seattle. Their service department seems to be run very well in terms of customer service and quality of service.

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Good thing you had a false alarm!

However, I did not have a false alarm.

It is well settled that the '18, '19 and '20 S63 AMGs are prone to have leaks at the rear main seal of the motor. At about 56000 miles late last year it cost me $7k to fix the oil leak from the rear main seal.
Wow, this is the first I've heard of you having the dreaded RMS issue. Did they replace the oil separators at the same time? And was it out of pocket or were you under warranty?
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Old Jan 17, 2025 | 10:17 PM
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[QUOTE=carlosinseattle;9098651]Wow, my heart would have dropped out of my chest! But really glad it wasn't the dreaded RMS issue. Like you, I've received top notch service from MB of Seattle. Their service department seems to be run very well in terms of customer service and quality of service.

Ya, I was shocked but also thinking, thank goodness I ponied up the money for the Fidelity Platinum plan. Would have been 500.00 in deductable, but would have been a major bummer to be without the car for as long as the repair could have potentially taken. Plus I really do not like the idea of someone ripping my car apart to fix something like this. I worry that it will never be the same after that much tear down and reassembly. I am just glad nothing is wrong with the car. Need to dig into my daughters car though as she has a small oil leak.
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Old Jan 19, 2025 | 08:24 AM
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When it needs a rear main seal.... Don’t lose sleep about it.
We techs get to pull transmissions with regularity.
All fasteners go back in. Harnesses are reattached. Exhaust goes back together.
You get it back as new without the leak.

Attend to daughters car.
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Old Jan 21, 2025 | 08:58 AM
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Yes they did replace oil separators.

And yes it was all out of pocket as my '19 S63 has been out of warranty for awhile already. Love when I get to pay my MB dealer $7k out of pocket!


Originally Posted by carlosinseattle
Wow, my heart would have dropped out of my chest! But really glad it wasn't the dreaded RMS issue. Like you, I've received top notch service from MB of Seattle. Their service department seems to be run very well in terms of customer service and quality of service.


Wow, this is the first I've heard of you having the dreaded RMS issue. Did they replace the oil separators at the same time? And was it out of pocket or were you under warranty?
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Old Jan 21, 2025 | 09:02 AM
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Agreed! My MB dealer did a great job replacing the rear main seal, put it back together without issue.

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When it needs a rear main seal.... Don’t lose sleep about it.
We techs get to pull transmissions with regularity.
All fasteners go back in. Harnesses are reattached. Exhaust goes back together.
You get it back as new without the leak.

Attend to daughters car.
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Old Jan 21, 2025 | 03:22 PM
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Yes they did replace oil separators.

And yes it was all out of pocket as my '19 S63 has been out of warranty for awhile already. Love when I get to pay my MB dealer $7k out of pocket!
$7K is a lot of money, lots of other things I'd want to spend $7K on than a car repair. However, that's not bad for the services you received, especially at a dealer. The oil separators are on the front of the engine so there isn't a lot of overlap between that job and the RMS job. Congrats on having a fair and trustworthy dealer! My guess is the same job would be closer to $10K at the Seattle dealership, but I hope to never find out.
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Old Jan 21, 2025 | 04:24 PM
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I do have a great dealer for sales and service. The next owner of my Euro Delivery '19 S63 will be very happy as some people would not have spent the $7k to fix the oil leak and would have passed the problem on but I instead fixed the leak even though I knew I was buying a '25 S63 E Performance (likely trading in the '19 S63).

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$7K is a lot of money, lots of other things I'd want to spend $7K on than a car repair. However, that's not bad for the services you received, especially at a dealer. The oil separators are on the front of the engine so there isn't a lot of overlap between that job and the RMS job. Congrats on having a fair and trustworthy dealer! My guess is the same job would be closer to $10K at the Seattle dealership, but I hope to never find out.
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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 01:33 AM
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Welp, had a little bit of a heart attack last night as my wife asked me why there was an oil spot in my parking spot in the garage. Looked and sure enough there was a small spot of oil. Panicked and called my local MB dealer and they got me in right away. Excellent service at MB of Seattle. I also called Fidelity as that is who my warranty is with and they were super nice as well. Got a call a few hours later from the SA saying the underside of my car is bone dry and they could not find a single drop of oil anywhere. They let it run for 2 hours and scoured the bottom of the car and could find nothing. As it turns out my daughter had parked her car in my spot this weekend and failed to mention this to me. After looking at her car, I am pretty sure I know where the oil came from. I sheepishly called the SA and told him what I suspected. He chuckled and said no worries, your car is buttoned up and ready to go. Did a no charge multipoint inspection and gave the old girl a clean bill of health, highly recommend them for service.
I wish I would have had that kind of good experience at MB of Seattle. I took my car there to get a cracked hose line that was leaking air causing the massage seats not to work. From the first of two times I have taken it in there and 35 days later of it being there, it ends up that my extended warranty won't cover it. Needless to say I was very annoyed for it to have taken them that long to get where we are today. I am going to pick it up tomorrow after they finish replacing a hose next to the firewall causing a coolant leak and of course also not covered by my warranty company. FMR? Haha
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I wish I would have had that kind of good experience at MB of Seattle. I took my car there to get a cracked hose line that was leaking air causing the massage seats not to work. From the first of two times I have taken it in there and 35 days later of it being there, it ends up that my extended warranty won't cover it. Needless to say I was very annoyed for it to have taken them that long to get where we are today. I am going to pick it up tomorrow after they finish replacing a hose next to the firewall causing a coolant leak and of course also not covered by my warranty company. FMR? Haha
Really sorry they've had your car for so long. Is it possible they were trying to get the warranty company to cover the problems? When my S550 was there, they spent a couple weeks going back and forth with their own CPO program trying to have my problems covered. They were successful on one and got MB corporate to cover the other on goodwill. Maybe they were doing the same for you. Also, the problem is with the warranty company NOT covering the repairs. What company did you go with and what were the reasons for the denial???
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Really sorry they've had your car for so long. Is it possible they were trying to get the warranty company to cover the problems? When my S550 was there, they spent a couple weeks going back and forth with their own CPO program trying to have my problems covered. They were successful on one and got MB corporate to cover the other on goodwill. Maybe they were doing the same for you. Also, the problem is with the warranty company NOT covering the repairs. What company did you go with and what were the reasons for the denial???
From what I understand is the techs were busy with other jobs it seemed and it got kind of put on the back burner. I know they talked with warranty company, but that was within the last few days. Originally the warranty company covered the pump that went out the first time I brought it in, but I still had to pay the difference in labor costs that they would cover. They hands down won't cover anything with the word "hoses" in it. I went with the GWC Warranty company with their Platinum Luxury package. From what the SA told me is that I should have gone with the Platinum Technology package and "maybe" it would have been covered. So annoyed.
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From what I understand is the techs were busy with other jobs it seemed and it got kind of put on the back burner. I know they talked with warranty company, but that was within the last few days. Originally the warranty company covered the pump that went out the first time I brought it in, but I still had to pay the difference in labor costs that they would cover. They hands down won't cover anything with the word "hoses" in it. I went with the GWC Warranty company with their Platinum Luxury package. From what the SA told me is that I should have gone with the Platinum Technology package and "maybe" it would have been covered. So annoyed.
Sorry to hear that, on both fronts. The dealer should have told you up front about how busy they were at that time. And as for warranty companies, the majority are bad, some being borderline criminal. Only a select few warranty companies are good. If not too late, can you go with a different company? Some companies will give you a refund for the unused portion, so you're not really out any money by cancelling. Then you can switch to the better option. If you take that route, be sure to read the full contract for the other company ahead of time to see what's covered. I did that, sent a copy to an attorney friend and the SA at MB of Seattle. That way I knew exactly what was covered. Just my $.02 cents.

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Sorry to hear that, on both fronts. The dealer should have told you up front about how busy they were at that time. And as for warranty companies, the majority are bad, some being borderline criminal. Only a select few warranty companies are good. If not too late, can you go with a differen company? Some companies will give you a refund for the unused portion, so you're not really out any money by cancelling. Then you can switch to the better option. If you take that route, be sure to read the full contract for the other company ahead of time to see what's covered. I did that, sent a copy to an attorney friend and the SA at MB of Seattle. That way I knew exactly what was covered. Just my $.02 cents.
Thank you for the info, definitely something I am going to look into to. Yeah, I wish I would have had a better experience with them but they have kind of left a sour taste with me. I bought my E550 from them back in the day and things were all good so not entirely sure what happened with me, maybe just a one off.
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