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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 03:33 PM
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Trans & Differential Fluid for 2014 E63

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I've been looking for info for trans and diff fluid and having a hard time. Conflicting info on FCPeuro and ECS tuning. I couldnt find anything in the owners manual or the Bevo site. For the diff, I don't have LSD, is this the correct diff fluid: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-liqui_mo...iter/2048~liq/ And how many bottles would I need? is 3 correct?

Also is the correct kit for doing a trans filter change and just replacing fluid in the pan: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...-moly-7229late

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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 06:07 PM
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 06:59 PM
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That fluid is ATF 134 FE. You can get a case of it from a Shell distributor. Around $80 or so for a case of 12 quarts last time I checked. Also on MB's approved list.
You will notice that Liqui Moly is not on the approved list and if you read their label, it says that they recommend it for 236.15 not that it's MB approved.
You can buy all the other parts in that kit though besides the fluid, it's the same price.

https://www.shell.us/business-custom...r-locator.html

https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevol...236.15_en.html
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Old Nov 10, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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I found the first link while searching; what was confusing is the op states the kit only has 5 qts, but when the link shows 10qts (same as the link I've provided above). seems like FCP changed it to include more fluid.

Completely missed the 2nd thread. thanks for providing.
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Old Nov 10, 2020 | 10:50 AM
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Old Nov 10, 2020 | 11:20 AM
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If anyone is interested in dealer price... mine is in today.
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way cheaper on the diff than my stealer
trans service however is similar
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Old Nov 10, 2020 | 11:35 AM
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trans service here in DC is much more expensive; around $700. found a good indy shop that is gonna do it for $500, but diff was around $200.
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Old Nov 10, 2020 | 04:15 PM
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Trans ~480 here in greater Seattle area. Diff 270 if done at dealer. DIY ~$75+30mins
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My front diff has a minor leak. Dealer said it cant be serviced?

Anyone have this issue?
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Originally Posted by crazybear
Hello all,

I've been looking for info for trans and diff fluid and having a hard time. Conflicting info on FCPeuro and ECS tuning. I couldnt find anything in the owners manual or the Bevo site. For the diff, I don't have LSD, is this the correct diff fluid: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-liqui_mo...iter/2048~liq/ And how many bottles would I need? is 3 correct?

Also is the correct kit for doing a trans filter change and just replacing fluid in the pan: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...-moly-7229late

Thanks for the help.
just had rear dif service done on my 15 63 with 38k miles and it was a total of $112 bucks for the services

here's the PN for the fluid the dealer used according to my invoice
https://www.mboemparts.com/oem-parts...l-001989330312
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Old Jul 13, 2023 | 10:41 PM
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Has anyone diy their transmission fluid replacement? According to the procedure, after filling, getting trans to temp, do you just let the oil drain out until it starts to drip? Is that the sign that it's full and can put the screw back in?

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Old Jul 14, 2023 | 08:58 PM
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Basically yes. You intentionally overfill it and let excess drain back out. The plastic overflow tube sets the correct level.
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Basically yes. You intentionally overfill it and let excess drain back out. The plastic overflow tube sets the correct level.
Gotcha. So as long as 113f is maintained along with that overflow tube doing it's job we good?
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Old Jul 14, 2023 | 09:23 PM
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Yes , I shifted the trans into rev. D and N with My foot on the brake a few times during warm-up to make Me believe it was circulating fluid.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 07:36 AM
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I don't think there is anything more complicated about these than any other 722.9 transmission service. On my S550 I did also drain the torque converter. Is that a thing with the MCT?
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo20032004
Has anyone diy their transmission fluid replacement? According to the procedure, after filling, getting trans to temp, do you just let the oil drain out until it starts to drip? Is that the sign that it's full and can put the screw back in?
Yes, modern transmissions are fill-to-overflow-while-hot. The fill volume is therefore indeterminate. The 722.9 procedure is well-documented on this site, the 725.0 is also somewhat documented. Not sure about MCT Speedshift.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 07:48 AM
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I don't think there is anything more complicated about these than any other 722.9 transmission service. On my S550 I did also drain the torque converter. Is that a thing with the MCT?
no torque converter in MCT. Multi Clutch Technology.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 07:49 AM
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Yes. That's why I asked if it was a thing with MCT. Presumably it still has a roughly torque converter shaped torus that could have a drain plug in it.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 07:55 AM
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The schematic drawings don't look that way but this is the 1st car I have ever owned that wasn't a manual so I'm no expert.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 08:24 AM
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It would appear to me that everything is the same, generally, except for the addition of dealing with the pump for start/stop. It seems like you can even drain the MCT. I saw nothing indicating it cannot be done. The only instruction that has a specific procedure is the fill procedure for the 722.97 (our transmission). And a review of it suggests that nothing is really different, though steps 2-6 deal with transfer case fluid service. It even refers to using an extra 2L to fill if you have "drained the torque converter" and this is directly inside of the specific 722.97 fill procedure instruction (which is an MCT transmission). That's my assessment. Nothing really different about it.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 08:32 AM
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Yeah I think the MCT speed shift in My AMG is different and has the wet clutches instead of torque converter. I was looking at the wrong trans.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 08:37 AM
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Not following. I have a 2014 E63S sedan. We both should have the 722.97 as far as I know, with MCT instead of conventional torque converter. However, I see nothing indicating we can't drain the MCT just like you can with a conventional torque converter. Take a look at the instructions.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 08:40 AM
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Yep I misunderstood sorry. I thought You meant We had a torque converter. I am on the correct page now.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 09:55 AM
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The MB "startup clutch" is directly analogous to the turbine-type hydraulic torque converter+lockup clutch. The MCT unit is filled with out. WIS will indicate whether it can be drained or not.

@konigstiger may have posted WIS for this in the W212 section although I haven't seen it.

Similar but not identical wet clutch systems from BorgWarner and ZF are shown for comparison.

Mercedes MCT 7-speed Spedshift transmission




BorgWarner double clutch unit


ZF double clutch unit (Porsche PDK)

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