Trans & Differential Fluid for 2014 E63
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Trans & Differential Fluid for 2014 E63
Hello all,
I've been looking for info for trans and diff fluid and having a hard time. Conflicting info on FCPeuro and ECS tuning. I couldnt find anything in the owners manual or the Bevo site. For the diff, I don't have LSD, is this the correct diff fluid: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-liqui_mo...iter/2048~liq/ And how many bottles would I need? is 3 correct?
Also is the correct kit for doing a trans filter change and just replacing fluid in the pan: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...-moly-7229late
Thanks for the help.
I've been looking for info for trans and diff fluid and having a hard time. Conflicting info on FCPeuro and ECS tuning. I couldnt find anything in the owners manual or the Bevo site. For the diff, I don't have LSD, is this the correct diff fluid: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-liqui_mo...iter/2048~liq/ And how many bottles would I need? is 3 correct?
Also is the correct kit for doing a trans filter change and just replacing fluid in the pan: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...-moly-7229late
Thanks for the help.
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That fluid is ATF 134 FE. You can get a case of it from a Shell distributor. Around $80 or so for a case of 12 quarts last time I checked. Also on MB's approved list.
You will notice that Liqui Moly is not on the approved list and if you read their label, it says that they recommend it for 236.15 not that it's MB approved.
You can buy all the other parts in that kit though besides the fluid, it's the same price.
https://www.shell.us/business-custom...r-locator.html
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevol...236.15_en.html
You will notice that Liqui Moly is not on the approved list and if you read their label, it says that they recommend it for 236.15 not that it's MB approved.
You can buy all the other parts in that kit though besides the fluid, it's the same price.
https://www.shell.us/business-custom...r-locator.html
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevol...236.15_en.html
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Completely missed the 2nd thread. thanks for providing.
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08 E63 AMG P30, 2013 S550, 09 E63, 14 E63 S Wagon, 14 E350 Wagon(current), 13 C63 P31 (current)
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490 trans service
90 rear diff
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490 trans service
90 rear diff
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Hello all,
I've been looking for info for trans and diff fluid and having a hard time. Conflicting info on FCPeuro and ECS tuning. I couldnt find anything in the owners manual or the Bevo site. For the diff, I don't have LSD, is this the correct diff fluid: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-liqui_mo...iter/2048~liq/ And how many bottles would I need? is 3 correct?
Also is the correct kit for doing a trans filter change and just replacing fluid in the pan: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...-moly-7229late
Thanks for the help.
I've been looking for info for trans and diff fluid and having a hard time. Conflicting info on FCPeuro and ECS tuning. I couldnt find anything in the owners manual or the Bevo site. For the diff, I don't have LSD, is this the correct diff fluid: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-liqui_mo...iter/2048~liq/ And how many bottles would I need? is 3 correct?
Also is the correct kit for doing a trans filter change and just replacing fluid in the pan: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...-moly-7229late
Thanks for the help.
here's the PN for the fluid the dealer used according to my invoice
https://www.mboemparts.com/oem-parts...l-001989330312
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Has anyone diy their transmission fluid replacement? According to the procedure, after filling, getting trans to temp, do you just let the oil drain out until it starts to drip? Is that the sign that it's full and can put the screw back in?
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Yes , I shifted the trans into rev. D and N with My foot on the brake a few times during warm-up to make Me believe it was circulating fluid.
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I don't think there is anything more complicated about these than any other 722.9 transmission service. On my S550 I did also drain the torque converter. Is that a thing with the MCT?
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Yes, modern transmissions are fill-to-overflow-while-hot. The fill volume is therefore indeterminate. The 722.9 procedure is well-documented on this site, the 725.0 is also somewhat documented. Not sure about MCT Speedshift.
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It would appear to me that everything is the same, generally, except for the addition of dealing with the pump for start/stop. It seems like you can even drain the MCT. I saw nothing indicating it cannot be done. The only instruction that has a specific procedure is the fill procedure for the 722.97 (our transmission). And a review of it suggests that nothing is really different, though steps 2-6 deal with transfer case fluid service. It even refers to using an extra 2L to fill if you have "drained the torque converter" and this is directly inside of the specific 722.97 fill procedure instruction (which is an MCT transmission). That's my assessment. Nothing really different about it.
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Yeah I think the MCT speed shift in My AMG is different and has the wet clutches instead of torque converter. I was looking at the wrong trans.
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Not following. I have a 2014 E63S sedan. We both should have the 722.97 as far as I know, with MCT instead of conventional torque converter. However, I see nothing indicating we can't drain the MCT just like you can with a conventional torque converter. Take a look at the instructions.
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The MB "startup clutch" is directly analogous to the turbine-type hydraulic torque converter+lockup clutch. The MCT unit is filled with out. WIS will indicate whether it can be drained or not.
@konigstiger may have posted WIS for this in the W212 section although I haven't seen it.
Similar but not identical wet clutch systems from BorgWarner and ZF are shown for comparison.
Mercedes MCT 7-speed Spedshift transmission
BorgWarner double clutch unit
ZF double clutch unit (Porsche PDK)
@konigstiger may have posted WIS for this in the W212 section although I haven't seen it.
Similar but not identical wet clutch systems from BorgWarner and ZF are shown for comparison.
Mercedes MCT 7-speed Spedshift transmission
BorgWarner double clutch unit
ZF double clutch unit (Porsche PDK)
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