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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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turn off ABS to prevent wear and tear on struts?

We all have an idea of how ABS brakes work, or can just google it. Using ABS will it cause more wear and tear on your front struts?
Remember with ABS the brakes it prevents your wheel from locking up this way you can respond on time and steer out of the way, or if you are going to fast before you turn the ABS will prevent your wheel from locking this way you can make the turn while you are on your brakes.

I also learned from here (http://www.mucda.mb.ca/aboutabs.htm) that your ABS can function unexpectedly on gravel, sand, ice, snow, mud, railway tracks, potholes, manhole covers, and even road markings when it is raining.
So if your ABS functions unexpectedly this might cause your struts to compensate which will lead to more wear and tear? If yes, then by turning of ABS it should help protect the life of your struts?

Safety wise, you can always pump your brakes to mimic ABS, this way you only use ABS when its really needed. Cars were on the road long before ABS was invented, so its not like you need it.

what do you guys think?

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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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You're kidding, right? I'll leave mine alone and be safe... You be safe and do the same.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Sounds like a dim bulb idea to me.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Just one more thought but unless you're driving without an original/extended MB warranty (which is cause for a whole different thread), why would you even care? I purchased the MB extended warranty which covers the ABS with a zero deductible which enables me to drive safely w/ABS.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bam Bam
Safety wise, you can always pump your brakes to mimic ABS, this way you only use ABS when its really needed. Cars were on the road long before ABS was invented, so its not like you need it.

what do you guys think?
You're kidding I hope.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 007ML500
You're kidding I hope.
Iam not kidding, ABS came out in the 80s, cars were on the road long before ABS. You can mimic ABS by pumping your brakes. All ABS does is it allows you to steer while breaking in a turn.

Basicly if you drive properly and break before you enter the turn and then accelerate through the turn you dont need ABS.

On wet roads, you should pump your brakes if you dont have ABS.

Road hazards that will cause the ABS to function unexpectedly are gravel, sand, ice, snow, mud, railway tracks, potholes, manhole covers, and even road markings when it is raining.
The ABS cannot make up for road conditions or bad judgment. It is still the driver’s responsibility to drive at reasonable speeds for weather and traffic conditions. Always leave a margin of safety.

http://www.mucda.mb.ca/aboutabs.htm

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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Off course you can drive a car without ABS, but when it comes to safety you are much better off with it on. Unless you are able to monitor wheel sleep at each wheel, adjust the brake proportioning and pulsate your foot every 10ms to react to the varying slip level at each wheel, I'm pretty confidant you will not be able to stay in the optimum region of the mu-slip curve by pumping your brakes.

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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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Just not worth it, I hope your safety is worth more to you than 2-3g's

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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:17 AM
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Why would anyone disable a safety system...in a Benz!? Makes no sense. If you own an SL, why would you worry about saving your struts by switching off your ABS? If money is such an issue, drive something else. An SL WILL cost you money to drive and own...we ALL know that.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragoncoach
Why would anyone disable a safety system...in a Benz!? Makes no sense. If you own an SL, why would you worry about saving your struts by switching off your ABS? If money is such an issue, drive something else. An SL WILL cost you money to drive and own...we ALL know that.
However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more likely to be in fatal crashes than cars without them, says a new US study. It appears that the problem isn't with the technology, it's poor driving habits and lack of driver awareness on how the brakes operate. Driver who rely on technology instead of better driving habits to improve safety are driving down a dangerous road.

The ABS cannot make up for road conditions or bad judgment. It is still the driver’s responsibility to drive at reasonable speeds for weather and traffic conditions. Always leave a margin of safety.

http://www.mucda.mb.ca/aboutabs.htm

ABS is for new drivers, and break happy people.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bam Bam
ABS is for new drivers, and break happy people.
LOL
why dont you disable your airbags too? It will make you drive more carefully coz you arent relying on technology.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bam Bam
However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more likely to be in fatal crashes than cars without them,
ABS is for new drivers, and break happy people.
That is horrible use of a statistic. Of course 65% of cars with anti-lock brakes are more likely to be in fatal crashes because ... ... Wait for it, a majority of cars on the road have ABS.


There are lies, damn lies, and then statistics.

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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bam Bam
However, cars with anti-lock brakes are up to 65% more likely to be in fatal crashes than cars without them, says a new US study. It appears that the problem isn't with the technology, it's poor driving habits and lack of driver awareness on how the brakes operate. Driver who rely on technology instead of better driving habits to improve safety are driving down a dangerous road.

The ABS cannot make up for road conditions or bad judgment. It is still the driver’s responsibility to drive at reasonable speeds for weather and traffic conditions. Always leave a margin of safety.

http://www.mucda.mb.ca/aboutabs.htm

ABS is for new drivers, and break happy people.
So what brands and model cars are you referring to? What are the ages and driving experience of the drivers. Too many variables to post a statement like this. A statistics class will teach you almost any results can be skewed and you can graph them as such to fit your hypothesis. So, you are saying that if I switch off the ABS in the SL, I'll be 65% less likely to be involved in a fatal accident?

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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Just not worth it, I hope your safety is worth more to you than 2-3g's
Just ordered a 08 bumper. Heard alot is involved. Any suggestions or input!
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Just ordered a 08 bumper. Heard alot is involved. Any suggestions or input!
Does this have anything to do with the OP?
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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Does this have anything to do with the OP?
as much as it has to do with ??? But thx
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragoncoach
So what brands and model cars are you referring to? What are the ages and driving experience of the drivers. Too many variables to post a statement like this. A statistics class will teach you almost any results can be skewed and you can graph them as such to fit your hypothesis. So, you are saying that if I switch off the ABS in the SL, I'll be 65% less likely to be involved in a fatal accident?
you wont be 65% less likely to be involed in a fatal accident, because you're a dumb *** who doesnt realize how to use the brakes. Where as someone who is aware of their brakes, wethere it be ABS or not, and know how to use them, will be less likely to be in an accident, because they know how to use the brakes.


Its not like Iam throwing a peice of salami to the wall and see if it sticks. I googled info about ABS, and the info is coming from transport canada, canada!!, where there is winter, and even they say ABS cannot make up for bad judgement.

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Why would anyone disable a safety system...in a Benz!? Makes no sense. If you own an SL, why would you worry about saving your struts by switching off your ABS? If money is such an issue, drive something else. An SL WILL cost you money to drive and own...we ALL know that.
Oh yes they will cost $ to drive. I should have leased not bought.
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Originally Posted by Dragoncoach
Why would anyone disable a safety system...in a Benz!? Makes no sense. If you own an SL, why would you worry about saving your struts by switching off your ABS? If money is such an issue, drive something else. An SL WILL cost you money to drive and own...we ALL know that.
very true! i'm due for new struts very soon.
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you wont be 65% less likely to be involed in a fatal accident, because you're a dumb *** who doesnt realize how to use the brakes...
I think theres only one dumb *** here...you
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