SL/R230: ABC Hose Rebuild
04-15-2017, 08:54 AM
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ABC Hose Rebuild
Anyone have an ABC hose rebuilt, Mercedes has a 2 week delay in getting one from Germany.
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LGAFF (04-15-2017)
04-15-2017, 11:22 AM
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I called a hyd hose place last week...they mentioned that some fittings cannot be remanufactured so was curious if anyone else has the experience with getting these done. Thanks for your response
04-15-2017, 12:38 PM
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These fittings are ok to re-use, follow nick's thread on the compression fittings he used, will work just fine. The leak is always at the crimp or in the hose, the metal fittings are solid.
https://mbworld.org/forums/m275-v12-...on-thread.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/m275-v12-...on-thread.html
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LGAFF (04-15-2017)
04-18-2017, 05:21 PM
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rather than using the compression fittings I had new AN fittings welded onto the hard lines and then swivel ends on the hose part. this allows me to just replace the hose part without having to replace the rest and is going to be a much better connection than a compression joint. it cost a little more, but I think worth it.
04-18-2017, 07:46 PM
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Planning for future hose replacements is basically a moot point, at this age the cars are 15 years old, if the replacements last that long again, the rest of the car will be disintegrated by that point anyway.
04-19-2017, 02:39 PM
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while possibly true, just b/c the stock hose made it 15 doesn't mean the replacement will. I've seen hoses go bad in under 5 years and when its still cheaper to rebuild the hose the way I did than buy a new merc one it makes much more sense to do so.
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04-19-2017, 07:51 PM
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True, I was gonna go have my hoses rebuilt but in the end it was more time efficient for me to just buy new hoses (I work at benz so I needed my car off my lift quickly), and the new ones are actually wrapped with an additional protective layer my OEM ones didn't have. In my opinion, if they are installed correctly (not twisted), they will last at least as long as my originals.
04-21-2017, 09:56 AM
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Joe: what was your source for new hoses?
04-21-2017, 10:48 AM
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One of the challenges is the DS hoses, a crimper cannot fit inside the complex bend, going to see if they can do the 10mm compression fitting.
04-21-2017, 10:26 PM
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Yeah honestly I could buy them online for a couple dollars cheaper, employee price isn't even that good with autonation, but the convenience makes it easy. It's more productive for me to get the parts through work and fix my car faster, lets me get back to doing paid work on customer cars faster.
04-22-2017, 10:24 PM
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At the MBZ dealership where I worked (privately owned, not part of a chain), employees paid cost + 5% for all parts and service. Of course this was 13 years ago (good grief how time flies!) and the dealership has changed hands, so who knows what they do now. What always surprised me was how much I saved on labor. They charge $95/hr back then, but I paid less than half that.
When I need parts now, I always call them to see if it's in stock, and if so, I take my printout from mboemparts and ask them to compete. I still know several of the parts guys, and they tell me if they can or can't. Most of the time, they come close enough that I'll buy locally and get it now. When my main pressure hose blew, they wanted over $500 for it (and didn't have it in stock, but could get it next day). MBOEMPARTS lists is with MSRP of $316, discounted to $234. They wouldn't even come close to the $316 - the best he could do was $400. He shook his head and said he just didn't see how they could sell so cheap. Like I said, I know these guys and they know me, so we wan'ts blowing smoke.
Of course something I know, and I'm not sure if the parts guys know, is that the costs in their computer are not actual MBZ wholesale prices. Someone in the accounting office plugs them in and they always bump the prices up. The philosophy is that this pays for shipping and overhead for stocking and selling.
When I need parts now, I always call them to see if it's in stock, and if so, I take my printout from mboemparts and ask them to compete. I still know several of the parts guys, and they tell me if they can or can't. Most of the time, they come close enough that I'll buy locally and get it now. When my main pressure hose blew, they wanted over $500 for it (and didn't have it in stock, but could get it next day). MBOEMPARTS lists is with MSRP of $316, discounted to $234. They wouldn't even come close to the $316 - the best he could do was $400. He shook his head and said he just didn't see how they could sell so cheap. Like I said, I know these guys and they know me, so we wan'ts blowing smoke.
Of course something I know, and I'm not sure if the parts guys know, is that the costs in their computer are not actual MBZ wholesale prices. Someone in the accounting office plugs them in and they always bump the prices up. The philosophy is that this pays for shipping and overhead for stocking and selling.
04-23-2017, 03:52 PM
#15
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At the MBZ dealership where I worked (privately owned, not part of a chain), employees paid cost + 5% for all parts and service. Of course this was 13 years ago (good grief how time flies!) and the dealership has changed hands, so who knows what they do now. What always surprised me was how much I saved on labor. They charge $95/hr back then, but I paid less than half that.
When I need parts now, I always call them to see if it's in stock, and if so, I take my printout from mboemparts and ask them to compete. I still know several of the parts guys, and they tell me if they can or can't. Most of the time, they come close enough that I'll buy locally and get it now. When my main pressure hose blew, they wanted over $500 for it (and didn't have it in stock, but could get it next day). MBOEMPARTS lists is with MSRP of $316, discounted to $234. They wouldn't even come close to the $316 - the best he could do was $400. He shook his head and said he just didn't see how they could sell so cheap. Like I said, I know these guys and they know me, so we wan'ts blowing smoke.
Of course something I know, and I'm not sure if the parts guys know, is that the costs in their computer are not actual MBZ wholesale prices. Someone in the accounting office plugs them in and they always bump the prices up. The philosophy is that this pays for shipping and overhead for stocking and selling.
When I need parts now, I always call them to see if it's in stock, and if so, I take my printout from mboemparts and ask them to compete. I still know several of the parts guys, and they tell me if they can or can't. Most of the time, they come close enough that I'll buy locally and get it now. When my main pressure hose blew, they wanted over $500 for it (and didn't have it in stock, but could get it next day). MBOEMPARTS lists is with MSRP of $316, discounted to $234. They wouldn't even come close to the $316 - the best he could do was $400. He shook his head and said he just didn't see how they could sell so cheap. Like I said, I know these guys and they know me, so we wan'ts blowing smoke.
Of course something I know, and I'm not sure if the parts guys know, is that the costs in their computer are not actual MBZ wholesale prices. Someone in the accounting office plugs them in and they always bump the prices up. The philosophy is that this pays for shipping and overhead for stocking and selling.
