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Old 05-12-2017, 05:19 PM
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SL600 / SL65 Intercooler Air probleem solved.

Hello members.

I've been thinking for a long time what would be the simplest and best way to get rid of Inrecoolerin coolant liquid air problem. I'm tired of the constant bleed the air from the system and a decrease in power.
Now I have solved the problem the best and most effective way to get rid of it!

Im gone show you what I have already done and I'm 100% sure that after this modification Im gone have al the time full power at the engine.

I started from following point? Its so tight every where but I found a solution after a lot of measurements.

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Next step

Next step.

I removed the original tube and filling container and it looks like this.

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Cut of the filler cap.
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Looks like this.
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My idea is make a expansion tank.
I want to use the OEM parts for this so its gone look like a OEM tank.
Its easier to install it bak also.
I'm gone install also from right and left intercoolers tubes to the expansion tank. So the system is going to bleed air itself. Same way the engine coolant system do. The expansion tank size is about 1 liter / 0,26 gal. So its gone be big enough. I'm little worried if the expansion tank cap hit the engine hood. I have measure it many times so I think it would fit.

Here few pictures about the tank. SL600 / SL65 Intercooler system liquid Air probleem solved.-img_8108.jpgSL600 / SL65 Intercooler system liquid Air probleem solved.-img_8109.jpgSL600 / SL65 Intercooler system liquid Air probleem solved.-img_8112.jpgSL600 / SL65 Intercooler system liquid Air probleem solved.-img_8114.jpgSL600 / SL65 Intercooler system liquid Air probleem solved.-img_8117.jpgSL600 / SL65 Intercooler system liquid Air probleem solved.-img_8119.jpgSL600 / SL65 Intercooler system liquid Air probleem solved.-img_8121.jpg

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Ready for the paint.

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Tomorrow I can see how it fit at the OEM position.
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Bad news. The expansion tank was to high.
The cap hits the hood. The space decreases closer to the front. Thats why it hits.
Today I have lowered the tank and I have paint it again.
Tomorrow I'm gone install it back.
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New tank.

So here is the lowered expansion tank. No its gone fit for sure.
I also moved the connectors to the back of the tank because its looks much better.

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Here few pictures how its looks when its finally ready and at the place.

BTW I can made few expansion tanks if anyone wants to buy. 150 USD.

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Nice work
​​​​​​I guess everyone wants to buy a product that cheap if it helps the inlet air temperature lower.
Have you testet it properly?
There are a specific way you shall bleed the original system as you know.
Did you do that and then compared it with original setup?
Your set up doesn't cool anymore than the original, but you indicate that it's impossible to bleed the original and therefore I will get air pockets now and then that will slow me down?
I'm in if that's the thing, but is it?
Or is this your way of skipping the bleeding prosess because it's time consuming and can get air pockets if not done right?
Do you have any before and after IAT values?
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Originally Posted by Patos
Nice work
​​​​​​I guess everyone wants to buy a product that cheap if it helps the inlet air temperature lower.
Have you testet it properly?
There are a specific way you shall bleed the original system as you know.
Did you do that and then compared it with original setup?
Your set up doesn't cool anymore than the original, but you indicate that it's impossible to bleed the original and therefore I will get air pockets now and then that will slow me down?
I'm in if that's the thing, but is it?
Or is this your way of skipping the bleeding prosess because it's time consuming and can get air pockets if not done right?
Do you have any before and after IAT values?
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This tank is only for bleed the systeem. Never drop the power any more because the liquid run perfect without air pockets....Its a must.

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Ok. My first thought was that this is more for people struggling to get the air pockets out of the system. If you don't do it right with the extra bleeding tool. The bleeding process get all air out. Then again it may get air in again trough the filler cap valve.
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Originally Posted by Patos
Ok. My first thought was that this is more for people struggling to get the air pockets out of the system. If you don't do it right with the extra bleeding tool. The bleeding process get all air out. Then again it may get air in again trough the filler cap valve.
Without an expansion tank, normal heating/cooling of the system will force out a little coolant and draw air back in when it cools. Some have fitted a tank connected to the overflow connection that is left open from factory to prevent this. Or swap to the m279 parts which have a tank and bolt up to stock parts.
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Ok. My first thought was that this is more for people struggling to get the air pockets out of the system. If you don't do it right with the extra bleeding tool. The bleeding process get all air out. Then again it may get air in again trough the filler cap valve.
When you tune for example the car.... you get more heat and more pressure in the system. You will always have trouble with this if you don't install a expansion thank. Even without a tune.
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Can't we just attach a rubber hose to that nipple and attach the other end to a reservoir of coolant to achieve the same result? The same way Toyotas do with their cooling system, the radiator has a nipple sticking out and with a tube attached that leads to a reservoir.
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Can't we just attach a rubber hose to that nipple and attach the other end to a reservoir of coolant to achieve the same result? The same way Toyotas do with their cooling system, the radiator has a nipple sticking out and with a tube attached that leads to a reservoir.
Yes, people have done that before successfully.
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Is that at the wheels or is it a crank conversion? 531.5 KW = 712.75 HP
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Can't we just attach a rubber hose to that nipple and attach the other end to a reservoir of coolant to achieve the same result? The same way Toyotas do with their cooling system, the radiator has a nipple sticking out and with a tube attached that leads to a reservoir.
Just remember to pressure test the hose into the system. Many filler caps aren't airtight at the upper seal. Some don't have a seal at all because they aren't supposed to be working under pressure. If so the water is pressed out into the reservoir by the bottom part/seal but when the one way valve is opening to get in water when the pressure falls it drags air from the upper part with bad or no sealing
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Is that at the wheels or is it a crank conversion? 531.5 KW = 712.75 HP
Crank 723 hv / 907 Lbs of torque at 3200 rpm.
459,6 kW at the rear wheels... 625 RWhv.

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Can't we just attach a rubber hose to that nipple and attach the other end to a reservoir of coolant to achieve the same result? The same way Toyotas do with their cooling system, the radiator has a nipple sticking out and with a tube attached that leads to a reservoir.
Im pretty sure its need a tank where it can fill the systeem al the time when it need it.
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Do you have any idea of where to get the upgraded top mount intercoolers.
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You can have them made if you are near a competent fab shop. The originals were from Speedriven who is no longer in business.

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