SL-Class (R231) 2013 on: Discussion on the SL550

SL/R231: In the market for new SL

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 05-13-2018, 01:52 AM
  #26  
Super Moderator

 
Wolfman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Land of 10,000 lakes
Posts: 9,984
Received 3,171 Likes on 1,977 Posts
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
Most important is that everyone is happy with what they drive. These cars are a joy to ride

The issue with certain options is that there is too much hearsay, opinions or urban legends.

If if one doesn’t have a chance to test an option first just see if the functionality it offers would be worth the money. If not, don’t add it.

Couldn’t care less if an option is $4k; if I like it I just have to negotiate the price down a bit more
The following users liked this post:
rorywquin (05-14-2018)
Old 05-13-2018, 07:04 AM
  #27  
Senior Member
 
SLclass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: southeastern NC
Posts: 257
Received 46 Likes on 37 Posts
'18 SL 550, '19 1500 Z71 Silverado LTZ, '19 Mustang convertible
[QUOTE=Wolfman;7452860]
Most important is that everyone is happy with what they drive. These cars are a joy to ride
If if one doesn’t have a chance to test an option first just see if the functionality it offers would be worth the money. If not, don’t add it.

You summed it up perfectly, Wolfman!
Old 05-13-2018, 02:35 PM
  #28  
Senior Member
 
branmin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: FL
Posts: 381
Received 29 Likes on 25 Posts
Sold 06 CLS500. SL550 09. SL550 2013. Own C6 Corvette heavily customized garage queen 2005.
Originally Posted by Wolfman
Most important is that everyone is happy with what they drive. These cars are a joy to ride

The issue with certain options is that there is too much hearsay, opinions or urban legends.

If if one doesn’t have a chance to test an option first just see if the functionality it offers would be worth the money. If not, don’t add it.

Couldn’t care less if an option is $4k; if I like it I just have to negotiate the price down a bit more
Right on. If YOU like it, it's all that matters. Looking at the Corvette 2019 ZR1. Think I'm too old for this though and in florida..2.9 seconds for 60 is serious power. However, life is short so why not and would give me a good excuse to do a 5 day schooling(something I have always wanted to do) in one of the driving schools that hopefully I would leave understanding how to really drive a sports car and understand how to handle myself in a tricky situation. But driving in flatland Florida somehow would defeat the object methinks not to mention speeding tickets. Regardless and back onto the recent thread which over the years I think has been flogged to death, never listen to any salesman or others who tells you that ABC is not worth it, because of this or that. You cannot make any statement unless you have actually driven with it and driven without it and as Woolf and others have stated, once you get to experience it, there is no turning back and if you have to pay for it and you want it, good for you.


a
The following users liked this post:
rorywquin (05-14-2018)
Old 05-14-2018, 08:53 AM
  #29  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
rorywquin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: God's County (Yorkshire)
Posts: 1,040
Received 232 Likes on 188 Posts
Shanks’s Pony
[/QUOTE]
............ I decided against ABC...............[/QUOTE]

Pity but you will still love the car.

FWIW, my local Indy (worked in MB service for 25 years before opening his own workshop - only does MB) was really surprised when I asked him about issues with ABC. I told him about all the online comments and he has never heard of ABC being a problem. It is hard to imagine MB selling cars (year after year) with a suspension system with known issues

The truth is you only hear about the 1 in 1000 problems on the internet and not the 999/1000 that have no issues.
Old 06-08-2018, 08:23 AM
  #30  
Newbie
 
bvmontalto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2013 sl550
Originally Posted by branmin
Right on. If YOU like it, it's all that matters. Looking at the Corvette 2019 ZR1. Think I'm too old for this though and in florida..2.9 seconds for 60 is serious power. However, life is short so why not and would give me a good excuse to do a 5 day schooling(something I have always wanted to do) in one of the driving schools that hopefully I would leave understanding how to really drive a sports car and understand how to handle myself in a tricky situation. But driving in flatland Florida somehow would defeat the object methinks not to mention speeding tickets. Regardless and back onto the recent thread which over the years I think has been flogged to death, never listen to any salesman or others who tells you that ABC is not worth it, because of this or that. You cannot make any statement unless you have actually driven with it and driven without it and as Woolf and others have stated, once you get to experience it, there is no turning back and if you have to pay for it and you want it, good for you.


a
Have owned a 2013 SL550 and then later a 2014 SL550 both without ABC and now a new 2018 SL550 with ABC I believe that it does make a difference in the character of the car. If buying another I would order it with ABC. Having said that it is my humble opinion that the base setup is very good and that the costly ABC option would likely only be appreciated by a small percentage of owners.
Old 06-14-2018, 10:16 AM
  #31  
Member
 
FirstBenz@62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Marietta, Georgia
Posts: 115
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2007 SL550
Currently have a 07 SL550 with less than 50K miles. Have only had one issue with ABC replacement and I think it was caused when I let my neighbor test drive it. We were going down a side street with no other traffic when he inexplicably swerved over a recessed storm drain. Two days later I noticed a new noise sounding like a roar which resulted in an ABC issue which at first was not covered by my extended warranty. Seems the independent mechanic was describing the replacement wrong. To this day I still do not know the exact nature of the problem. Point being I felt like I was at the mercy of the warranty company. After owning the 07 for 8 years, putting about 2-3k miles per year, I am replacing it with a 2015 SL400 without ABC because during the test drive I could not tell a difference in the way it rode to that of my 2007. The 2015 has all the bells and whistles, premium 1, driver assist pkg, magic sky, designo leather and 35k miles. Looking forward to traveling to some nice golf outings as the 2015 trunk seems to be bigger than the 2007 to accommodate the clubs. Bottom line is that ever since the ABC issue and after the extended warranty expired I always felt like it was a ticking time bomb cost wise. Don’t think I will be missing the ABC. At this stage of my life (70 yrs) and unlike others, I value my SL driving experience as more luxury and comfort than adrenaline pumping excitement. LOL BTW owned 28 cars in my lifetime including 2 Vettes in my younger days (84 & 96) and feel the SL is the best driving experience I have ever had in an automobile. Just test drove a 2017 Corvette Gran Sport the other day and it cinched my 2015 SL400 buy.
Old 06-14-2018, 06:04 PM
  #32  
Member
 
putter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 102
Received 13 Likes on 10 Posts
2013 SL550
Originally Posted by FirstBenz@62
Currently have a 07 SL550 with less than 50K miles. Have only had one issue with ABC replacement and I think it was caused when I let my neighbor test drive it. We were going down a side street with no other traffic when he inexplicably swerved over a recessed storm drain. Two days later I noticed a new noise sounding like a roar which resulted in an ABC issue which at first was not covered by my extended warranty. Seems the independent mechanic was describing the replacement wrong. To this day I still do not know the exact nature of the problem. Point being I felt like I was at the mercy of the warranty company. After owning the 07 for 8 years, putting about 2-3k miles per year, I am replacing it with a 2015 SL400 without ABC because during the test drive I could not tell a difference in the way it rode to that of my 2007. The 2015 has all the bells and whistles, premium 1, driver assist pkg, magic sky, designo leather and 35k miles. Looking forward to traveling to some nice golf outings as the 2015 trunk seems to be bigger than the 2007 to accommodate the clubs. Bottom line is that ever since the ABC issue and after the extended warranty expired I always felt like it was a ticking time bomb cost wise. Don’t think I will be missing the ABC. At this stage of my life (70 yrs) and unlike others, I value my SL driving experience as more luxury and comfort than adrenaline pumping excitement. LOL BTW owned 28 cars in my lifetime including 2 Vettes in my younger days (84 & 96) and feel the SL is the best driving experience I have ever had in an automobile. Just test drove a 2017 Corvette Gran Sport the other day and it cinched my 2015 SL400 buy.
The C7 is a great car. First Vette I've considered buying since the C3. However, for long road trips for 2 people, I don't think the SL can be beat.

Last edited by putter; 07-23-2018 at 12:22 AM.
Old 06-14-2018, 07:21 PM
  #33  
Member
 
FirstBenz@62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Marietta, Georgia
Posts: 115
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2007 SL550
Saw all the rave reviews and thought maybe a C7 was in my future but my dear wife helped change my mind after driving the 2015 SL400. Don’t think I’ll miss the 07’s 382hp but we will see. All the latest creature comforts and the safety features (especially blind spot) convinced me to upgrade to a newer model. Also have the Distronic on the 17 GLC300 and love it in traffic. IMHO once you own a SL it is hard to go back. LOL
Old 06-14-2018, 09:30 PM
  #34  
Super Moderator

 
Wolfman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Land of 10,000 lakes
Posts: 9,984
Received 3,171 Likes on 1,977 Posts
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
Originally Posted by FirstBenz@62
Saw all the rave reviews and thought maybe a C7 was in my future but my dear wife helped change my mind after driving the 2015 SL400. Don’t think I’ll miss the 07’s 382hp but we will see. All the latest creature comforts and the safety features (especially blind spot) convinced me to upgrade to a newer model. Also have the Distronic on the 17 GLC300 and love it in traffic. IMHO once you own a SL it is hard to go back. LOL
Don’t worry about power, the SL400 is faster to 60mph than the 07 SL550...
Old 06-14-2018, 09:35 PM
  #35  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Streamliner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
Posts: 7,015
Received 3,391 Likes on 1,934 Posts
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon
Originally Posted by putter
The C7 is a great car. First Vette I've considered buying since the C3. However, for long road trips for 2 people, I don't think the SL can be beat.
I made my way through college buying, restoring & selling Corvettes in the late 60’s & early 70’s. Oh, if I could have some of those cars back now! Here’s a very old photo of me with my last ‘67. In more recent times, my last one was a new ‘03 50th Anniversary convertible, which was a very nice car, but I owned it only a year before ordering a new ‘04 SL500, which I sold in 2016, with only 22,000 miles on it. I wanted a new 2017, but before I could order one, MB dropped the Mars Red color, so I bought a CPO 2013 in Mars Red instead. I can truthfully say that as an older fellow, I will not own another car without a Collision Avoidance System. I know, a Corvette is a “driver’s car,” and that “real drivers” don’t need such “gimmicks,” blah, blah, blah! Chevrolet has a whole slew of active safety systems in their parts bins, but they refuse to put them on the Corvette, even as options. So, there will be no new Corvette for me. I love the look of the current car and would love to order a new one, but I’ll stick with my SL, be more comfortable and infinitely safer.


Last edited by Streamliner; 06-14-2018 at 09:38 PM.
Old 06-15-2018, 08:11 AM
  #36  
Member
 
FirstBenz@62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Marietta, Georgia
Posts: 115
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2007 SL550
Originally Posted by Wolfman

Don’t worry about power, the SL400 is faster to 60mph than the 07 SL550...
Funny how my wife absolutely would not drive the Vette but immediately jumped at the chance to drive the SL.
Old 06-15-2018, 12:00 PM
  #37  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Streamliner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
Posts: 7,015
Received 3,391 Likes on 1,934 Posts
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon
Originally Posted by FirstBenz@62
Funny how my wife absolutely would not drive the Vette but immediately jumped at the chance to drive the SL.
Many women—if not most, don’t like Corvettes. They consider them “show off” cars, driven by younger men who are trying to impress people. They consider them to be “mid life crisis” toys driven by older guys wearing gold chains and “on the prowl.” The SL, on the other hand, projects a much more refined and upscale image. Even though some new Corvettes are more expensive than some new SL’s, the SL’s are seen as classy, “uptown” rides, while Corvettes belong on the “other side of the tracks.” Most women would love to drive or be driven in an SL and don’t wish to be seen anywhere near a Corvette. Even though the new Corvettes are wonderful, comfortable, expensive cars, they have an image that is steeped in over 60 years of “grease monkey” history and many women—especially these days, just don’t want that. Obviously, this is just my opinion. Here I am in my ‘69 at Irwindale Raceway way back when. The other car is behind me, out of the picture.


Old 06-15-2018, 03:17 PM
  #38  
Senior Member
 
gkgeiger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ohio/Florida
Posts: 442
Received 29 Likes on 27 Posts
'10 C300, '15 ML250BT, '22 M850i Vert
I traded a perfect '14 C7 Vert w/2LT pkg. for my '16 SL400. I paid about $42k difference plus tax and service pkg. Today there is Only a $13k difference in trade in value. As the owner of 3 MB's I find this disturbing. By the way, I loved my C7 convertible but at 72 it was just too hard to get in and out of. I'd have to think long and hard about buying another MB.

Last edited by gkgeiger; 06-15-2018 at 06:28 PM.
Old 06-15-2018, 06:17 PM
  #39  
Member
 
FirstBenz@62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Marietta, Georgia
Posts: 115
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2007 SL550
Just read Streamliner’s msg to my wife and her response was that those were her “exact” feelings toward Corvettes. Well done!

FWIW the sticker on the C7 was $84k but it was a 2017 so they were discounting it to $68k. Just for fun I put it in one of those “what is my car worth” calculators and got a trade in value of $52-$54k.
Old 06-15-2018, 06:45 PM
  #40  
Senior Member
 
gkgeiger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ohio/Florida
Posts: 442
Received 29 Likes on 27 Posts
'10 C300, '15 ML250BT, '22 M850i Vert
Originally Posted by FirstBenz@62
Just read Streamliner’s msg to my wife and her response was that those were her “exact” feelings toward Corvettes. Well done!

FWIW the sticker on the C7 was $84k but it was a 2017 so they were discounting it to $68k. Just for fun I put it in one of those “what is my car worth” calculators and got a trade in value of $52-$54k.
I like your user name. I got my first one at 65. Now at almost 75 and 3 in the garage, I'm so upset about the value of my '16 SL that it will be my last.
Old 06-15-2018, 06:50 PM
  #41  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Streamliner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
Posts: 7,015
Received 3,391 Likes on 1,934 Posts
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon
Originally Posted by gkgeiger
I like your user name. I got my first one at 65. Now at almost 75 and 3 in the garage, I'm so upset about the value of my '16 SL that it will be my last.
I keep saying things like that and then I keep buying more. When I got my current S560 Sedan, I tried—REALLY TRIED— to go with another brand, but when push came to shove, I just couldn’t do it. There are so many reasons not to spend the money on these cars, but damn—they are just so frigging wonderful!
Old 06-15-2018, 10:14 PM
  #42  
Super Moderator

 
Wolfman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Land of 10,000 lakes
Posts: 9,984
Received 3,171 Likes on 1,977 Posts
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
Originally Posted by Streamliner


I keep saying things like that and then I keep buying more. When I got my current S560 Sedan, I tried—REALLY TRIED— to go with another brand, but when push came to shove, I just couldn’t do it. There are so many reasons not to spend the money on these cars, but damn—they are just so frigging wonderful!
Luxury goods and anything tech has become disposable and resale values will show that.
So what.
Safety is priceless and the ride enjoyable. A hotel night or a nice dinner will cost as much as the SL in a month and either will be less memorable

Nice things cost money to own or enjoy...
Old 06-16-2018, 09:23 AM
  #43  
Member
 
FirstBenz@62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Marietta, Georgia
Posts: 115
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2007 SL550
Originally Posted by Wolfman


Luxury goods and anything tech has become disposable and resale values will show that.
So what.
Safety is priceless and the ride enjoyable. A hotel night or a nice dinner will cost as much as the SL in a month and either will be less memorable

Nice things cost money to own or enjoy...
... and you can’t take it (money) with you so why not enjoy. A couple of pics of the new ride.

Old 06-16-2018, 09:57 AM
  #44  
Member
 
FirstBenz@62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Marietta, Georgia
Posts: 115
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2007 SL550
Agree that buying a new MB is a great experience having ordered our GLC300 just the way we wanted it. We ordered a 2016 but ended up with a 2017 because it took so long to locate one. It seems you just can’t order one from the factory but instead wait for the one you want to enter the pipeline. Also agree that the “hit” you take on a new SL is not for the faint of heart. When I purchased my CPO 2007 SL550 in 2010 I thought it would be my last one. However, after 8 years and the advances in safety, I decided to upgrade and luckily found one like the one I would have ordered. I find that buying an off lease 3 year old SL is the “sweet spot” in the SL depreciation game although, when visiting the dealer, am tempted to try wrangling a deal on a new one. Who knows maybe that day will come.
Old 06-16-2018, 10:19 AM
  #45  
Senior Member
 
Patric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 417
Received 30 Likes on 25 Posts
14 E63S Wagon, 16 GTS Edition1 (Sold), 17 SL450 designo edition
I think you guys are right on the money with Corvettes versus MBs. At 73 I have had my share of Corvettes but am now on my third new MB in four years. Still, I like the Vettes and am waiting for the mid motor C8 to roll out. Hope I don't like it too much.
Old 06-16-2018, 12:23 PM
  #46  
Senior Member
 
branmin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: FL
Posts: 381
Received 29 Likes on 25 Posts
Sold 06 CLS500. SL550 09. SL550 2013. Own C6 Corvette heavily customized garage queen 2005.
Originally Posted by Patric
I think you guys are right on the money with Corvettes versus MBs. At 73 I have had my share of Corvettes but am now on my third new MB in four years. Still, I like the Vettes and am waiting for the mid motor C8 to roll out. Hope I don't like it too much.
You and me both...............Had 14 vettes over the years and still have my 2005 C6 garage queen with all of 9500 miles on her.......many from the corvette forum would have liked to purchase her and I have no idea why I can't part with her..well I do..mixture of pride, love and stupidity as having difficulty now using the stick with ankle problems.

And still holding back on a new SL as just hoping to receive some news this year when and if a new model will appear but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Old 06-16-2018, 05:06 PM
  #47  
Member
 
FirstBenz@62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Marietta, Georgia
Posts: 115
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2007 SL550
Originally Posted by branmin
And still holding back on a new SL as just hoping to receive some news this year when and if a new model will appear but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Regarding future SL model - Just found an article dated 2014 about the SL and SLK sharing architecture and another dated 2016 about AMG taking over and sharing with the GT. Both refer to “dwindling sales” as reason for 8th gen model.
Old 07-22-2018, 06:38 PM
  #48  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
bob55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Florida
Posts: 1,447
Received 328 Likes on 292 Posts
2013 SL550 (Lux Sport), 2006 CL55 AMG (Muscle). S550 (Wife's Sedan)
In older SL 230's ABC had to be activated with a switch otherwise it did nothing that I was aware of. This forum seems to be saying that ABC improves the ride even if not manually switched on..Please explain/elaborate how the new ABC on the 231 is different than the 230. Don't you still have to switch it on for it to do anything?.

Last edited by bob55; 07-22-2018 at 06:45 PM.
Old 07-22-2018, 07:21 PM
  #49  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Streamliner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
Posts: 7,015
Received 3,391 Likes on 1,934 Posts
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon
Originally Posted by bob55
In older SL 230's ABC had to be activated with a switch otherwise it did nothing that I was aware of. This forum seems to be saying that ABC improves the ride even if not manually switched on..Please explain/elaborate how the new ABC on the 231 is different than the 230. Don't you still have to switch it on for it to do anything?.
A car equipped with ABC is ALWAYS using ABC. The button is to change from regular mode to Sport mode. Having owned a 2004 SL500 that came standard with ABC and then getting a 2013 SL550 without ABC, IMO, the difference in ride quality and handling is dramatic, with the ABC car driving much nicer.
Old 07-23-2018, 03:11 AM
  #50  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
rorywquin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: God's County (Yorkshire)
Posts: 1,040
Received 232 Likes on 188 Posts
Shanks’s Pony
Originally Posted by Streamliner


A car equipped with ABC is ALWAYS using ABC. The button is to change from regular mode to Sport mode. Having owned a 2004 SL500 that came standard with ABC and then getting a 2013 SL550 without ABC, IMO, the difference in ride quality and handling is dramatic, with the ABC car driving much nicer.
ABC has moved on a lot from 2004.....In mine .....

C,S,S+,I and CV are the available modes plus, there is a separate button to raise / lower the car. If the car is raised, it will automatically lower when you hit 80km/h (50 mph). Being able to raise the car is good for parking nose in at kerbs, speed bumps, steep ramps etc and when washing the car (don't need to bend as much. ) and I suppose it will also make it easier to get in and out in the raised position.

Besides the obvious things e.g. suspension stiffness in the different modes, ABC reduces body roll, keeps it level during acceleration / braking, leans into bends (CV) reducing the feel of G forces (essentially a modified C mode). Also reacts to sudden cross winds and (I'm not 100 % on this) but I believe, also reads the road surface (I have the full driver assist / safety package) and smooths the ride. The car also lowers further above a certain speed (120mph I think).

Last edited by rorywquin; 07-23-2018 at 05:26 AM.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: SL/R231: In the market for new SL



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:54 AM.