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Old 08-02-2020, 11:32 PM
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Does Doug Demuro drive everyone crazy?

Some time ago I watched his review of the R231. He started off saying he 'didn't know what it was for'. It was pretty obvious that he wasn't going to like it, no matter what. It's not that difficult Doug, it's a pretty, hard top GT with a great engine and smooth ride. It's for running up to Napa and climbing out of the car ready for wine tasting and dinner, it's for a weekend trip to Big Sur with the top down when you're cruising along the ocean, it's for a quick run up to the city for cocktails and the opera, where it still turn heads etc...

Today I watched him rave about the Lexus LC500 convertible. OK, it's a very pretty car, but really! So many of the things he pointed out as special and surprising on the Lexus have been features of the SL for many years.

His conclusion was that the Lexus is a lovely car that nobody will buy because everyone wants an SUV. Genius. I wish he hadn't wasted half an hour of my life, twice. In the words of George W - 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again'

I won't be wasting any more time on Doug Demuro ;-)

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I watched one of his videos. (might have been the SL one) He got on my nerves - never watched him again.
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I really like his videos, and he seems like a pretty cool guy, too. He's a huge fan of German cars, especially Porsche and Mercedes. His SL review was slightly too critical, but he wasn't wrong.
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I tried to get into a Lexus LC500 coupe when they first came out. Not much room; nice styling, and it's a Lexus, but just not on par with the SL IMO. Have not seen the drop top yet, but looking at photos, I should believe the same functional space, or less.
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I find him entertaining... he covers a lot of interesting vehicles that no one else does in one place. I don't take take his reviews too seriously but he raised some relevant points on the SL 450 though he should have really reviewed a SL 550. He was candid that the car is not really aimed at him.

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I think he's funny and if I like the car he's reviewing I'll check it out. I could certainly understand the gents that find him lame as well though...
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Originally Posted by coolcamden
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Hes an acquired taste. I put him on when I want an afternoon nap. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Much in the same vein, I choose Rick Steves and his European travel shows!!
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I do not think Doug's reviews of the SL are that different than those of most auto journalists when it comes to the SL. Typically, they do not get it. Yes it is not a car for everyone, but it is a great car for some of us. Gary hit it on the head. For guys like us, it is perfect. Versatile, comfortable and stylish, what is not to like? I traded in a Corvette, which all of the journalists love because of the performance for the price. But the interior of my C6 was cheezy compared to the SL and it was noisy and hard to get into and out of as well. It accelerated quicker and handled better but was not nearly as pleasant to drive. I am sorry I did not discover the SL sooner, because for my wife and I it is a perfect adult sports car, roomy, quiet and refined. And I absolutely love the retractable hardtop convertible feature.
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Ron, I agree with you 100%. Like you I traded in a Corvette for my SL. I traded a BMW Z4 with a retractable hardtop for the Corvette and sorely missed this feature. My Corvette was a great car, a C7 Coupe, but my wife HATED it. I do miss the ability to go to the track but at my age the days at the track are almost over. The SL is a MUCH nicer car to cruise around town and it also makes for a nice road trip as long as you pack light. Having some space behind the seats for a small cooler and snacks is a nice perk on long trips.

It is my first Mercedes after 13 BMWs and a couple Audis. So far, so good. I am fortunate to have a very good dealer in my town with an experienced service department. They have already replaced several parts under my CPO warranty. IF it proves to be reliable I will likely trade up to a newer model just before my 2 year CPO extension expires. If not, I don't know what I'll do, might trade for a used C8 Corvette. Time will tell.

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Ron, I agree with you 100%. Like you I traded in a Corvette for my SL. I traded a BMW Z4 with a retractable hardtop for the Corvette and sorely missed this feature. My Corvette was a great car, a C7 Coupe, but my wife HATED it. I do miss the ability to go to the track but at my age the days at the track are almost over. The SL is a MUCH nicer car to cruise around town and it also makes for a nice road trip as long as you pack light. Having some space behind the seats for a small cooler and snacks is a nice perk on long trips.

It is my first Mercedes after 13 BMWs and a couple Audis. So far, so good. I am fortunate to have a very good dealer in my town with an experienced service department. They have already replaced several parts under my CPO warranty. IF it proves to be reliable I will likely trade up to a newer model just before my 2 year CPO extension expires. If not, I don't know what I'lll do, might trade for a used C8 Corvette. Time will tell.
Add one more to the list of folks that migrated this way after years in Corvette camp. My Corvette years left me wanting, honestly. I loved the power and performance for the value, but the interior of my truck was nicer than the interior of my C5 or C6 convertible.

Driving a couple of higher performance Audi’s as daily drivers (A6 4.2, S4, and now SQ5) I learned to love the creature comforts of a well
done German sports car, but Bimmers and Audi’s just didn’t pull off that combination of true luxury and sport that I wanted.

Following a 4 year on again off again live affair with 6 speed CTSV Coupe (loved the power and suspension, the interior was far better than GM typical, but still far off from my Audi’s, and I hated the tank like visibility and 12MPG mileage average) I decided to drive every 2 door convertible I could find.

And despite not wanting to like the SL (incorrectly predisposed to the bias of it being a car for senior citizens) I kept coming back to it. So I traded the CTS V on a flyer, a black SL550, and now an SL63.

Why did I wait so long??




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I found his test to be informative. I am interested in buying a used R231. I would prefer the V6 as I really don't need the power of the V8, however what his test drive illustrated to me was that the SL450 didn't ride very well (I am assuming that this car was not equipped with ABC) and I didn't like the exhaust note. To me with very rare exceptions (Lotus Evora) V6's are to be felt but not heard. Is the noise piped in from the speakers and can be turned off or is that actually how the exhaust sounds?


Unless a used V6 R231 could be found with ABC and the exhaust noise in the video could be turned off I would only be interested in the SL550

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I have an SL400 and hardly ever hear the exhaust, but then again I rarely drive it hard. In general use, it is a very quiet ride which is good for listening to music or conversing with your passenger. Coming from a Corvette, I find the ride to be quite good w/o ABC. It is nice having a car that does not grind the front facia coming in and out of driveways.
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Originally Posted by RonNSoCal
I have an SL400 and hardly ever hear the exhaust, but then again I rarely drive it hard. In general use, it is a very quiet ride which is good for listening to music or conversing with your passenger. Coming from a Corvette, I find the ride to be quite good w/o ABC. It is nice having a car that does not grind the front facia coming in and out of driveways.

Good to hear. I would not be driving it hard either.

I would actually prefer an 911 as the convertible is not a huge plus for me, but am afraid that it would be too noisy and hard riding.
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Yes, the ride will be "firmer" and the noise will be higher BUT the 911 is a joy if you like a true sports car. That said, I prefer the SL for my needs as It is a much better GT cruiser and road trip car.
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Originally Posted by rmorin49
Yes, the ride will be "firmer" and the noise will be higher BUT the 911 is a joy if you like a true sports car. That said, I prefer the SL for my needs as It is a much better GT cruiser and road trip car.
My preference for the 911 is as follows: a) The cockpit fits like a glove, b) exterior styling (991) c) its a coupe. Will need to drive both but being in my mid 60's I suspect I would prefer the comfort / sporty trade of the SL. A friend of mine had a base 997 and I really didn't like the noise / ride qualities. He made the mistake of driving it across the country and back and swore he would never do that again. The 991 is reportedly a more refined grand tourer.

Which is another reason for the interest in the V6 version as I expect it would be lighter on its feet.

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