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Old 08-13-2006, 11:24 PM
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Question SL600 Renntech vs SL65

Is a stock SL65 faster or an SL600 with Renntech Stage I?
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Where are you located?

I would pay to see that race!

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Ok, then that is a bit far for me to drive.

It would be great to do a heads up between a Renntech SL600 and a stock SL65.

On paper it looks like a good race with an edge to the SL600.

What have you run at the track on stock rubber?

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Old 08-14-2006, 10:22 PM
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Just bought the car and have not been to the track. Will post numbers once I make it to the track.
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Is a stock SL65 faster or an SL600 with Renntech Stage I?

S600 with a ECU/TCU done to it is faster then a stock SL65. When we had the SL65 stock it was running mid to low 12's in the 1/4 mile. Ous S600 with ECU/TCU runs 11.6's
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Did you ever run them head to head on the same track on the same day?

My stock SL65 has run 11.69 and many SL65's run in the upper 11's. Even in 95+ heat I run in the 11.8 and 11.9 range.

A bunch of people on this board have seen me run both my Silver and my Black SL65's at the strip.

I think a stock SL65 against a Stage 1 Renntech SL600 would be a very close race.

Could go either way!

The issue with the SL65 is not lack of power it is lack of traction.
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My bone stock SL65 runs in the 11's as well. I would guess they would run about the same but the 65 should have a stronger trans.
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and better brakes, LSD.....
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I've raced and beaten SL and CL 55's without a problem. I'm still looking for an SL65 to race. I never see SL65's anywhere! Come to think of it I never see SL600's either. I wonder which one is more rare? Obviously I'll post what happens if I find one.
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My bone stock SL65 runs in the 11's as well. I would guess they would run about the same but the 65 should have a stronger trans.
I can vouch for that. Are you coming to the track in september? I have another rental going on.
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I can vouch for that. Are you coming to the track in september? I have another rental going on.

Sounds like fun. I am toying with the idea of selling the SL since I have a Bentley Convert coming in Jan. I haven't decided yet because the SL is one of the best cars I have ever had and my particular car is a good one. The problem is they are too similar to keep both and it would be nice to have a back seat for my kids. On the other hand, the Bentley will be comanding way over sticker for a while so maybe that would be the way to go. Hard decision.
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Sounds like fun. I am toying with the idea of selling the SL since I have a Bentley Convert coming in Jan. I haven't decided yet because the SL is one of the best cars I have ever had and my particular car is a good one. The problem is they are too similar to keep both and it would be nice to have a back seat for my kids. On the other hand, the Bentley will be comanding way over sticker for a while so maybe that would be the way to go. Hard decision.
I took a friends bentley gt for a spin through georgetown and although I was impressed I would still take the 65 hands down. The bentley got TONS of attention. Ha dit parked in front of K street lounge and the girls were all over it. Anyways, come out to the track, its lookin like our best track day yet. Heres the list so far:
1) New BMW M6
2) Kleemann Stage 4 600+hp CLS55
3) Dodge Charger
4) New Ford GT
5) 04 996TT 490whp
6) New BMW M5
7) 790whp Supra on pump gas
8) Possibly a Murci
9) 520whp C5 vette
10) C6 Z06
11) 10 second Cyclone (possible)
12) RWD stage 2 996TT
13) modded E55
14) One of these: 850rwhp C5 LPE TT, 600hp++ 996TT, SRT8 Jeep, or 600hp++ Viper
15) s/c e46 m3 (if he doesnt part out his car by then)
16) s/c c5 vette
Heres the link to the info: https://mbworld.org/forums/events-gatherings/156047-track-time-md-dc-va.html
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I have an SL600 with RT stage 1 and exhaust. The car went 11.25@125. I have gone with a few SL65s and CL65s and have destroyed them. The only 65 I ever lost to was my buddy's who has a RT stage 1, exhaust and airbox, it's the car that went 10.85. Here's a couple of samples of the 600:

Enjoy!!


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Nice! I wonder if the exhaust gives it anything or if it is just the Renntech ecu.
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Nice! I wonder if the exhaust gives it anything or if it is just the Renntech ecu.

The exhaust (eisenmann) made about a 40rwhp improvement over stock. I'm running the RT 98octane fuel map.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
I took a friends bentley gt for a spin through georgetown and although I was impressed I would still take the 65 hands down. The bentley got TONS of attention. Ha dit parked in front of K street lounge and the girls were all over it. Anyways, come out to the track, its lookin like our best track day yet. Heres the list so far:
1) New BMW M6
2) Kleemann Stage 4 600+hp CLS55
3) Dodge Charger
4) New Ford GT
5) 04 996TT 490whp
6) New BMW M5
7) 790whp Supra on pump gas
8) Possibly a Murci
9) 520whp C5 vette
10) C6 Z06
11) 10 second Cyclone (possible)
12) RWD stage 2 996TT
13) modded E55
14) One of these: 850rwhp C5 LPE TT, 600hp++ 996TT, SRT8 Jeep, or 600hp++ Viper
15) s/c e46 m3 (if he doesnt part out his car by then)
16) s/c c5 vette
Heres the link to the info: https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=156047
Awesome lineup! I would love to see what the Ford GT will do at the track. I ran with one on a long staight and not to start crap but I took it by a bus length and still pulling away up till about 120. I know they make huge power with light mods but I thought stock it would be closer than it was.
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and better brakes, LSD.....
Brakes are the same, just logo differences.

LSD is AMG only though.
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Calipers are the same, rotors are not.

SL600 does not have composite rotors. Front and rear, check it out.
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Originally Posted by france2112
I've raced and beaten SL and CL 55's without a problem. I'm still looking for an SL65 to race. I never see SL65's anywhere! Come to think of it I never see SL600's either. I wonder which one is more rare? Obviously I'll post what happens if I find one.

I dont know what part of SoFLA you are in, but i see quite a few in the sunset/gables/grove area....saw about 4 last month.....all black or silver.

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I dont know what part of SoFLA you are in, but i see quite a few in the sunset/gables/grove area....saw about 4 last month.....all black or silver.

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I'm in Plantation (Broward). For some reason I rarely see any 55's or 65's in my area and I'm looking. Today I actually saw an SL55 coming out of a gas station. I see a million SL500's.

I raced a 2006 CL65 about 1 week ago. We raced three times. Twice from a roll and once from a stand still. From a 30mph roll we were dead even up to about 130mph untill we needed to brake. From a stand still I beat the CL mainly because of traction issues but it was still very close. I assume it would be about the same against an SL65 but I'm still looking!!!
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I am in Austin for today, but will be driving my CL65 back to Houston tonight. Email me at DoctorV8@pol.net if you want to get a highway pull in before I head out this evening. Sorry for the short notice, but I just read this thread.

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rdk and I will be getting together soon...we'll keep you all posted.
You better represent for us 65 guys! I don't want to hear you were beat by a "common" 600! Just kidding. Let us know how it goes.


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