SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Supercharged SLK55 VS Stock SL55
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Incredible, that's even faster than Renntech SL65 and would blow away stock SL55/SL600/SL65! Someone used a boxster/911 analogy, which makes absolutely no sense. One is 2 seat mid-engined convertible and the other is a rear-engined couple with 4 seats. A much better analogy is Cayman S VS 911 carrera S. However, the Cayman S is still far slower than 911 S, so even that analogy is bad. Stock SLK55 is almost as fast as a stock SL55 both on track (0.3 second difference, Fifth Gear) and in the straight line (0-60 4.3 seconds, C&D). Even then, Cayman has only 2 seats, while carrera has 4. With the SLK/SL, both have 2-seats, engine in the front, and hardtop roadster.
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tuskir
While both these cars are convertibles, 2 seater, and retractable hardtop that is where the similarities end. They really aren't an apple to apple comparison.
Go test drive both and see what you like.
Go test drive both and see what you like.
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Wow, I cant believe this argument is going on. Every car has something different to offer. It all depends on what you want. Dont try to convince other people to like what you like, it just wont happen. I was choosing between a 996TT, E55, CLK55, and SL600. I chose a Kleemann CLK55 and I dont regret it at all. I smoke all the cars listed and its a super sleeper (at leats it was before I put a huge front mount on it). There are MANY cars that will eat mine for breakfast but I'm happy with what I have and have never second guessed my purchase. I personally love the W208 body style and own 2 of them. Kleemann makes AMAZING products and their customer service is even better.
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When you first posted, Tuskir, I and a number of the other good folks on this forum assumed you sincerely wanted reactions. But as the posts pile up, it looks more and more like you're simply out trolling.
You prefer the SLK to an SL? Good for you. You want to tune it? Knock yourself out. You want to look down on all the people who purchsed SL's instead of SLK's? I think we'll all somehow manage to perservere in spite of your disapproval.
Now to find something interesting to read....
You prefer the SLK to an SL? Good for you. You want to tune it? Knock yourself out. You want to look down on all the people who purchsed SL's instead of SLK's? I think we'll all somehow manage to perservere in spite of your disapproval.
Now to find something interesting to read....
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Only drive it when she cant.
Drove the SLK55 at the AMG Challenge. Hammered it on the road course
Not bad. But it in no way has the feel and power of my SL55.
Yes its lighter.
But its a chic car. Or maybe cool if you are more in touch with the
female side of your brain.
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Incredible, that's even faster than Renntech SL65 and would blow away stock SL55/SL600/SL65! Someone used a boxster/911 analogy, which makes absolutely no sense. One is 2 seat mid-engined convertible and the other is a rear-engined couple with 4 seats. A much better analogy is Cayman S VS 911 carrera S. However, the Cayman S is still far slower than 911 S, so even that analogy is bad. Stock SLK55 is almost as fast as a stock SL55 both on track (0.3 second difference, Fifth Gear) and in the straight line (0-60 4.3 seconds, C&D). Even then, Cayman has only 2 seats, while carrera has 4. With the SLK/SL, both have 2-seats, engine in the front, and hardtop roadster.
They're both great in their own right, you prefer one....and that is great, congratulations, you're awesome. But how and why would you go into the forum for another car and try to sell everyone else on your idea....it's your idea, run with that. You'll have a fast sleeper car that will blow everyone away. So now go out there and blow em away man, while I cruise by content and relaxed, because at the end of the day I know that I drive an SL 55...
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When you first posted, Tuskir, I and a number of the other good folks on this forum assumed you sincerely wanted reactions. But as the posts pile up, it looks more and more like you're simply out trolling.
You prefer the SLK to an SL? Good for you. You want to tune it? Knock yourself out. You want to look down on all the people who purchsed SL's instead of SLK's? I think we'll all somehow manage to perservere in spite of your disapproval.
Now to find something interesting to read....
You prefer the SLK to an SL? Good for you. You want to tune it? Knock yourself out. You want to look down on all the people who purchsed SL's instead of SLK's? I think we'll all somehow manage to perservere in spite of your disapproval.
Now to find something interesting to read....
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+1 to troll
While it certainly has been interesting watching some SL owners (flex their muscles) and say that the SLK55 is a chic car ... I agree with some others that I believe your just trolling.
I agree with some others that I believe your just trolling.
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I have a questions for ya. With the 030 on your car, what is the difference between 030 and normal? I dont have that package, but I still have the 2pc rotors, and my SL does not.
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the 030 package on a SLK55comes with :
Alcantara steering wheel
Nurenburg tuned suspension
carbon fiber interior
030 Rims (heavy as hell)
and the front rotors are 14.2 inch
(it was my understanding the normal SLK55 doesn't come with the composite rotors and that was only the 030 package. It could be different now? Mine is an 06. In either case the size of the rotors are very different.)
I wouldn't be surprised if the newer SL55's have composite rotors up front.
Alcantara steering wheel
Nurenburg tuned suspension
carbon fiber interior
030 Rims (heavy as hell)
and the front rotors are 14.2 inch
(it was my understanding the normal SLK55 doesn't come with the composite rotors and that was only the 030 package. It could be different now? Mine is an 06. In either case the size of the rotors are very different.)
I wouldn't be surprised if the newer SL55's have composite rotors up front.
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the 030 package on a SLK55comes with :
Alcantara steering wheel
Nurenburg tuned suspension
carbon fiber interior
030 Rims (heavy as hell)
and the front rotors are 14.2 inch
(it was my understanding the normal SLK55 doesn't come with the composite rotors and that was only the 030 package. It could be different now? Mine is an 06. In either case the size of the rotors are very different.)
I wouldn't be surprised if the newer SL55's have composite rotors up front.
Alcantara steering wheel
Nurenburg tuned suspension
carbon fiber interior
030 Rims (heavy as hell)
and the front rotors are 14.2 inch
(it was my understanding the normal SLK55 doesn't come with the composite rotors and that was only the 030 package. It could be different now? Mine is an 06. In either case the size of the rotors are very different.)
I wouldn't be surprised if the newer SL55's have composite rotors up front.
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off thread
since this doesn't really apply to this thread ... you might want to PM in the future.
I'd recommend :
Carlsson UL
Renntech
Fiske
HRE
Kenesis
(in no specific order)
I'm not sure which have a 5 spoke but I'm sure HRE does. It seems that all of these brands have very light(strong) rims. If you want Ultra light then your going to have to go to Magnesium or Carbon-fiber.
I'd recommend :
Carlsson UL
Renntech
Fiske
HRE
Kenesis
(in no specific order)
I'm not sure which have a 5 spoke but I'm sure HRE does. It seems that all of these brands have very light(strong) rims. If you want Ultra light then your going to have to go to Magnesium or Carbon-fiber.
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Im glad I ran into this thread coz i had many of the same concerns
looks to me like more thought has gone into the sl car especially the quality of the inside, to make it more comfy ajnd ritzy, plus those massaging seats- cant beat that with a stick!
its made to appeal to richer/older folk, the slk's interior is sparse/thin/simple/cold in comparison, which does not appeal to the richest folks
you make something that appeals to the richest folks and then you can go and charge much more for it than its (relatively) worth (or cost to make)
so they make more money on the sl, more proft percentage-wise, coz richer folks will spend more
the slk is targeted at younger folk, seems to me, so benz cant ask as much and dont
space is almost identical but seems not
also the sl has much history, lineage, the slk much newer design, i guess
im not expert but this is how its appearing to me
Im sure there are also differences not visible to the naked eye, that make higher quality and perhaps longevity with the sl car
Still, why a 55amg instead of the similarly priced torque-monster sl600?
Is it just the amg sport hype and fat seats?
I think i might prefer the heated steering wheel, myself!
(only avail on the 600 car)
looks to me like more thought has gone into the sl car especially the quality of the inside, to make it more comfy ajnd ritzy, plus those massaging seats- cant beat that with a stick!
its made to appeal to richer/older folk, the slk's interior is sparse/thin/simple/cold in comparison, which does not appeal to the richest folks
you make something that appeals to the richest folks and then you can go and charge much more for it than its (relatively) worth (or cost to make)
so they make more money on the sl, more proft percentage-wise, coz richer folks will spend more
the slk is targeted at younger folk, seems to me, so benz cant ask as much and dont
space is almost identical but seems not
also the sl has much history, lineage, the slk much newer design, i guess
im not expert but this is how its appearing to me
Im sure there are also differences not visible to the naked eye, that make higher quality and perhaps longevity with the sl car
Still, why a 55amg instead of the similarly priced torque-monster sl600?
Is it just the amg sport hype and fat seats?
I think i might prefer the heated steering wheel, myself!
(only avail on the 600 car)
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Im glad I ran into this thread coz i had many of the same concerns
looks to me like more thought has gone into the sl car especially the quality of the inside, to make it more comfy ajnd ritzy, plus those massaging seats- cant beat that with a stick!
its made to appeal to richer/older folk, the slk's interior is sparse/thin/simple/cold in comparison, which does not appeal to the richest folks
you make something that appeals to the richest folks and then you can go and charge much more for it than its (relatively) worth (or cost to make)
so they make more money on the sl, more proft percentage-wise, coz richer folks will spend more
the slk is targeted at younger folk, seems to me, so benz cant ask as much and dont
space is almost identical but seems not
also the sl has much history, lineage, the slk much newer design, i guess
im not expert but this is how its appearing to me
Im sure there are also differences not visible to the naked eye, that make higher quality and perhaps longevity with the sl car
Still, why a 55amg instead of the similarly priced torque-monster sl600?
Is it just the amg sport hype and fat seats?
I think i might prefer the heated steering wheel, myself!
(only avail on the 600 car)
looks to me like more thought has gone into the sl car especially the quality of the inside, to make it more comfy ajnd ritzy, plus those massaging seats- cant beat that with a stick!
its made to appeal to richer/older folk, the slk's interior is sparse/thin/simple/cold in comparison, which does not appeal to the richest folks
you make something that appeals to the richest folks and then you can go and charge much more for it than its (relatively) worth (or cost to make)
so they make more money on the sl, more proft percentage-wise, coz richer folks will spend more
the slk is targeted at younger folk, seems to me, so benz cant ask as much and dont
space is almost identical but seems not
also the sl has much history, lineage, the slk much newer design, i guess
im not expert but this is how its appearing to me
Im sure there are also differences not visible to the naked eye, that make higher quality and perhaps longevity with the sl car
Still, why a 55amg instead of the similarly priced torque-monster sl600?
Is it just the amg sport hype and fat seats?
I think i might prefer the heated steering wheel, myself!
(only avail on the 600 car)
The motor rumble in the 55 is worth the price of admission.
The 600 is also nice, but it's a softer ride, and has wimpy brakes.
That being said, you can mod a 600 to make it hadle better and have WAYYYY more power. You need to drive both of them to see which you will like better. The 55 was what I liked more. Other prefer the 600.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z5LHGGFZZ...elated&search=
Found this on You Tube (Top Gear) compares SLK55 to the SL55
Found this on You Tube (Top Gear) compares SLK55 to the SL55
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You can put all sorts of moda on an SLK55 and beat.............your head against the wall trying to convince an SL55 owner that you car is "better" Better for what? 
Buy and enjoy what you want. "Better is in the eye of the beholder. Remember that an SL55 owner could have used the same money that they paid for the SL55 to buy the SLK55 modded and had a lot of money left over. We chose not to because the SL55 is "better" for us. That and the K2 kick in the pants was worth it.
I have a GT3RS coming in January, hope to see you on a local road course.
Buy and enjoy what you want. "Better is in the eye of the beholder. Remember that an SL55 owner could have used the same money that they paid for the SL55 to buy the SLK55 modded and had a lot of money left over. We chose not to because the SL55 is "better" for us. That and the K2 kick in the pants was worth it.I have a GT3RS coming in January, hope to see you on a local road course.
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I'm not dissing (or trolling like some have suggested) the SL55 by any means, I'm simply expressing my views that SL55 is relatively slow in comparison with other Mercedeses that cost around the same. If you have enough money to buy an SL55 and think the SLK55 is too girly, its very likely that you can spend like 10k more and get the SL600, which makes a lot more sense to me than SL55. For a car like an SLK55, that only weighs 3,350lbs, supercharged V8 is surely enough to make it fast (i.e. 11 second car), however, a much heavier SL really needs the V12 bi-turbo. Are there even any SL55 in the 11's? The fastest SL55 on drag times (with renntech / kleemann stage 3) are in the low 12's, and only one at 12 flat. So even with the mods, its very hard (near impossible) to break the 12 second barrier with the SL55. When you drop a v12 bi-turbo into the SL, its really clear that that is the right engine for the chassis. Plenty of low 11's with the SL600 to prove the point.
So what am I supposed to do if I want a mid 11 second hardtop roadster that is able to compete with Z06's, vipers, and turbo porches's on the dragstrip? My only choices are supercharged SLK55 or SL600, SL55 is out of the picture. Right now, I am looking at both SLK's and 03 SL600's. If I can find a low mileage 03 (or maybe 04) for low to mid 70's, I would probably get that over SLK55. However, a three year old high performance Mercedes might be more trouble than its worth, so I dont even know.
So what am I supposed to do if I want a mid 11 second hardtop roadster that is able to compete with Z06's, vipers, and turbo porches's on the dragstrip? My only choices are supercharged SLK55 or SL600, SL55 is out of the picture. Right now, I am looking at both SLK's and 03 SL600's. If I can find a low mileage 03 (or maybe 04) for low to mid 70's, I would probably get that over SLK55. However, a three year old high performance Mercedes might be more trouble than its worth, so I dont even know.
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My research showed that the SL600 was very comparably priced to the SL55. Also, from the factory the performance numbers are exactly the same. If it is more expensive then why would you pay more money for the exact same performance? You are defeating your own argument if that is the case. I purchased the SL55 because I had heard much more about trouble with the SL600 engine maintenance-wise. The SL55 engine architecture is more modern than the V-12 on the SL600, plus the AMG name has resale value. I understand the "Mod-ability" of the SL600, but most folks are completely happy with the car out of the box. Plus, I'll bet mods increase likelyhood of maintenance problems on that V-12. I like the looks of the SLK. It's WAY better than the first gen SLK. I just like the SL better. All seem to agree the SL65 is king of the heap. Hell, we'd all probably like an SLR. I like the ride and handling of the SL much better. Go get an SLK and mod the hell out of it. There's more to a car for me than a quarter mile time.
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Same performance? Are you kidding me? Stock SL600 runs 11.9 in the 1/4 when even highly modded kleemann/renntech SL55 can't break 12's. Chipped SL600 run low 11's all day at 125mph. SL600 is nearly as fast as SL65. SL needs the v12 bi-turbo to be fast, supercharged V8 is simply not enough to move that pig. As far as the maintance/problems, my research shows that SL55/SL600 is about the same. Like I said before, if I can afford a low mileage SL600 I would probably get that, if not, Kleemann SLK55 will have to suffice. SL55 is simply not fast enough for MY needs, if you don't care about 1/4 mile racing, that's cool with me, I only care about what I want to do with it. I don't think I should be labeled as a "troll" for simply expressing my views on the SL55....
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Same performance? Are you kidding me? Stock SL600 runs 11.9 in the 1/4 when even highly modded kleemann/renntech SL55 can't break 12's. Chipped SL600 run low 11's all day at 125mph. SL600 is nearly as fast as SL65. SL needs the v12 bi-turbo to be fast, supercharged V8 is simply not enough to move that pig. As far as the maintance/problems, my research shows that SL55/SL600 is about the same. Like I said before, if I can afford a low mileage SL600 I would probably get that, if not, Kleemann SLK55 will have to suffice. SL55 is simply not fast enough for MY needs, if you don't care about 1/4 mile racing, that's cool with me, I only care about what I want to do with it. I don't think I should be labeled as a "troll" for simply expressing my views on the SL55....
BTW, you were called a troll maybe because you said the modded SLK55 was better?
