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Old 05-09-2007, 06:21 PM
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I would assume a ECU/TCU tune would only affect 1/4 mile times as traction is already an issue with the 65. Do you know the real world 0-60 and 1/4 mile gains with that tune?
not sure if this was a general question or one for adam...but with the tune of the cay dynoed you can expect 12.20's-11.80's at about 118-120 depending on traction. I dont personally calculate 0-60 as these cars dont have traction in first thru second...with drag radials super low 4's maybe high 3's? I hope this helped
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
not sure if this was a general question or one for adam...but with the tune of the cay dynoed you can expect 12.20's-11.80's at about 118-120 depending on traction. I dont personally calculate 0-60 as these cars dont have traction in first thru second...with drag radials super low 4's maybe high 3's? I hope this helped
I guess they vary because those times you gave me seem to be the average for stock 65s. 11.8 is what I have seen most of the time for a decent stock launch of a 65.

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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
I guess they vary because those times you gave me seem to be the average for stock 65s. 11.8 is what I have seen most of the time for a decent stock launch of a 65.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lj2bqjQ5odM
The dyno posted was a stock vehicle. Or was your question for after the car has been modified?
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
The dyno posted was a stock vehicle. Or was your question for after the car has been modified?
Yes, after mod. It's ok, I will soon find out myself
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
Yes, after mod. It's ok, I will soon find out myself
sorry i guess i misunderstood the question, just tryin to help Heres a compilation of the fastest modified V12 Bi-Turbos in the country, maybe this will help a bit. Which tuner are you going with?

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[QUOTE=E55JAY;2194214]sorry i guess i misunderstood the question, just tryin to help Heres a compilation of the fastest modified V12 Bi-Turbos in the country, maybe this will help a bit. Which tuner are you going with?



Used Kleemann on my CLS but was recomended to go with Renntech for the 65. Amazing they charge so much just to load a program into your ECU. At least with the CLS they did the pulley as well. I'm going to drive for a few days and dyno it. Then I'll make my decision.
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[QUOTE=david_101;2194038]i guess i just don't know enough about power generation and delivery to understand why those dyno numbers are good relative to the specs.QUOTE]

Crank (specs) vs wheel (dyno)
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Ok guys,

Sorry took so long, been tuning couple of AMGs today. I haven't scan the dyno results yet but with ECU alone we got 71 rwhp and 40 lbs torque. (we blitz from Fremont to San Jose for the ECU to adapt, hence we ran pretty hot on the dyno)

Since NSM has been kind enough to let us have the car till tomorrow afternoon, we are going to redyno the car in the early morning again.


Here are the final numbers as far as i can remember.

561 hp and 714.3 lbs torque


Oh yeah, like NSM said, the SL 65 biggest enemy as you can see in the picture below is located at the far right.



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490 at the wheels equates to 588 crank, which is slightly lower than the factory rating. However, 673 ft-lbs at the wheels equates to 808 at the crank...70 more than the factory rating.
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Originally Posted by AdamG@EuroElites
Ok guys,

Sorry took so long, been tuning couple of AMGs today. I haven't scan the dyno results yet but with ECU alone we got 71 rwhp and 40 lbs torque. (we blitz from Fremont to San Jose for the ECU to adapt, hence we ran pretty hot on the dyno)

Since NSM has been kind enough to let us have the car till tomorrow afternoon, we are going to redyno the car in the early morning again.


Here are the final numbers as far as i can remember.

561 hp and 714.3 lbs torque
wow, opposite of what I thought. That's quite a HP gain. I would have thought the torque gain would be greater than the HP. I assume this was the renntech mod?
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Originally Posted by AdamG@EuroElites
Ok guys,

Sorry took so long, been tuning couple of AMGs today. I haven't scan the dyno results yet but with ECU alone we got 71 rwhp and 40 lbs torque. (we blitz from Fremont to San Jose for the ECU to adapt, hence we ran pretty hot on the dyno)

Since NSM has been kind enough to let us have the car till tomorrow afternoon, we are going to redyno the car in the early morning again.


Here are the final numbers as far as i can remember.

561 hp and 714.3 lbs torque


Oh yeah, like NSM said, the SL 65 biggest enemy as you can see in the picture below is located at the far right.


damm 71hp from ECU is crazy. hey adam how much to put a 65 motor in my E55? its either that or im buyin a damm F-360 in yellow of coarse!
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damm 71hp from ECU is crazy. hey adam how much to put a 65 motor in my E55? its either that or im buyin a damm F-360 in yellow of coarse!
If you are a performance junky you wont be happy with the 360.
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Ok That's It.........."That Is All I Can Stand, Cuz I Can't Stands NoMore"...(Popeye)

Dave is now lookin' to trade + cash his -55 for a nice -65..........



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P.S. Right Corner = CHP cars........two of 'em. Yes?
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Ok That's It.........."That Is All I Can Stand, Cuz I Can't Stands NoMore"...(Popeye)

Dave is now lookin' to trade + cash his -55 for a nice -65..........



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P.S. Right Corner = CHP cars........two of 'em. Yes?

ok dave what are you thinking
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Got the call... takin delivery tonight. Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
Got the call... takin delivery tonight. Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock
congrats, the anticipation........
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
Got the call... takin delivery tonight. Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock
lucky *******!
can you explain a lil more about the 360 please i actually just started looking at them and i know zero about any f-car. shiit i cant even spell it so i say F-car.
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Michael, 65 engine on the 55? You are really a speed junkie...

Speed_thrills, congrats again...take pics please.

Dave..the car can only go faster from here!!!

Jude, dont tempt Dave now
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Originally Posted by ROCKETW19
lucky *******!
can you explain a lil more about the 360 please i actually just started looking at them and i know zero about any f-car. shiit i cant even spell it so i say F-car.
Well they are grossly under powered for a modern sports car, let a lone a "high end" sports car. They have just under 400hp and if you get a good run they can break in to the high 12s in the 1/4 mile. Dont get me wrong, they look great and handle even better and many people cant tell the 360s from the 430s (all though most of us here can) on the road. It will most likely be out of warranty and very expensive to fix and or mod.
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490 at the wheels equates to 588 crank, which is slightly lower than the factory rating. However, 673 ft-lbs at the wheels equates to 808 at the crank...70 more than the factory rating.
What equation are you using to gather your #'s? I always use the most popular rwhp / 490 devided by .82 or 18% = 597.56 crank hp

damn post mods = 869 crank torque Eegaad!

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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
Well they are grossly under powered for a modern sports car, let a lone a "high end" sports car. They have just under 400hp and if you get a good run they can break in to the high 12s in the 1/4 mile. Dont get me wrong, they look great and handle even better and many people cant tell the 360s from the 430s (all though most of us here can) on the road. It will most likely be out of warranty and very expensive to fix and or mod.
thanks, i think your right the maintance will keep me from a car like this! oh well adam more mods for me!
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Michael,

Get the revised bottom mount intercooler, TB without the recirculation flap, and get Renntech dual top mount SLR styled intercooler. Also dont forget the speedshift and reinforced tranny.
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Ok That's It.........."That Is All I Can Stand, Cuz I Can't Stands NoMore"...(Popeye)

Dave is now lookin' to trade + cash his -55 for a nice -65..........

Gimme
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No updates. We done two dyno runs today. Same consistent results.

Jude, check your email, i think Tony has send you some info. If you need help tomorrow, call us on our cells.



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