SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: CLK63 black series or SL55 ?
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CLK63 black series or SL55 ?
Okay, the GM at the dealership I use, called and told me I could get on the list for a CLK63 black. I have months before it arrives but I really love my SL55. But I also have the addiction for buying whatever is the newest thing to hit the block. Would any of you guys trade your SL for a CLK black series or not? To me the only pros are that it will probably be a faster car ( not important since I don't make money for racing, other than that,speed is just for bragging rights) 2 it will be rare (but may just look like a kitted out CLK to most observers) and 3 , It will be the hottest new thing from MB AMG. The cons are, it's not a convertible, It won't have the status of an SL (except to car guys) and it may not have the SL flagship quality and features IMO. post your thoughts on this.
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Okay, the GM at the dealership I use, called and told me I could get on the list for a CLK63 black. I have months before it arrives but I really love my SL55. But I also have the addiction for buying whatever is the newest thing to hit the block. Would any of you guys trade your SL for a CLK black series or not? To me the only pros are that it will probably be a faster car ( not important since I don't make money for racing, other than that,speed is just for bragging rights) 2 it will be rare (but may just look like a kitted out CLK to most observers) and 3 , It will be the hottest new thing from MB AMG. The cons are, it's not a convertible, It won't have the status of an SL (except to car guys) and it may not have the SL flagship quality and features IMO. post your thoughts on this.
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If your only reason is for speed or status definately go for a SL65 instead. They are just as rare and you get to keep the drop top so the ladies will love you for it.
Not to mention a CLK (regardless of what model) is still just the CL's little brother. In other words... it's a girls car. This is why you don't see CLK 65's or SLK 65's. Stay with a real mans car and get the SL65.
The .005% of Mercedes owners will know it's a CLK 63 Black, everyone else will think you're some old guy trying to be cool with a kitted out car.
If you ask me the CLK doesn't even look right up front. Almost like a kit job gone bad.
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Just my opinion.
Not to mention a CLK (regardless of what model) is still just the CL's little brother. In other words... it's a girls car. This is why you don't see CLK 65's or SLK 65's. Stay with a real mans car and get the SL65.
The .005% of Mercedes owners will know it's a CLK 63 Black, everyone else will think you're some old guy trying to be cool with a kitted out car.
If you ask me the CLK doesn't even look right up front. Almost like a kit job gone bad.
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The only advantage for the CLK imo is depreciation, it should hold it's value a lot better then the SL.
Besides that, no way i'd get an overpriced CLK.
For that price it needs to lose good 300lbs (it's currently 3872lbs) and switch to a manual tranny. Automatic in whats suppose to be a pretty pure bred sports car...right.
Besides that, no way i'd get an overpriced CLK.
For that price it needs to lose good 300lbs (it's currently 3872lbs) and switch to a manual tranny. Automatic in whats suppose to be a pretty pure bred sports car...right.
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...........considering you cn get a 2005 or 2006 Sl65 for $100K, I won't even consider the cLk63 black series at $130K. This is especially so because of the reasons you stated you are buying the car for.
...........The CLK63 black series appears to have been made for the very few who value track performance above all else. There does not seem to be a car in the Mercedes line up that will perform at the track as well as the CLk63 black series, at least as described. Besides that, I agree with others that I really dont think that at the end of the day, the car is worth the price they are asking.
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...........considering you cn get a 2005 or 2006 Sl65 for $100K, I won't even consider the cLk63 black series at $130K. This is especially so because of the reasons you stated you are buying the car for.
...........The CLK63 black series appears to have been made for the very few who value track performance above all else. There does not seem to be a car in the Mercedes line up that will perform at the track as well as the CLk63 black series, at least as described. Besides that, I agree with others that I really dont think that at the end of the day, the car is worth the price they are asking.
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have you even looked at the interior/seats of the CLK63 black? if you plan to use it as a daily driver, you will deeply regret it.. the CLK black I think would be more properly suited for the track, or for someone that has 10 other cars in his garage.. I can't imagine selling the SL for a CLK of any form..
not to mention, the CLK will have a new body style available for purchase in a little over a year form now.. as the CLK 09 is a new body style..
just my opinion..
not to mention, the CLK will have a new body style available for purchase in a little over a year form now.. as the CLK 09 is a new body style..
just my opinion..
Okay, the GM at the dealership I use, called and told me I could get on the list for a CLK63 black. I have months before it arrives but I really love my SL55. But I also have the addiction for buying whatever is the newest thing to hit the block. Would any of you guys trade your SL for a CLK black series or not? To me the only pros are that it will probably be a faster car ( not important since I don't make money for racing, other than that,speed is just for bragging rights) 2 it will be rare (but may just look like a kitted out CLK to most observers) and 3 , It will be the hottest new thing from MB AMG. The cons are, it's not a convertible, It won't have the status of an SL (except to car guys) and it may not have the SL flagship quality and features IMO. post your thoughts on this.
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I would rather drive a regular SL500 then the CLK black...unless I only drove on the track...lol. Most will think it is a kitted CLK...not my style.
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I just went from a CL55 to a CLK63 and am very happy. Got a 07 750i for the wife as well but any how, was pretty confused on what to get as well. Lots of friends were telling me to get the SL but there are just so many of them and the 55 motor was just not so appealing to drive again. Considered a SL65 but its so nose heavy and not the greatest handling. I know some people consider the CLK's to be a girls car but I look at it differently. If your saying that cause its small what's a Porsche?? I find it like a fitted suit. You get in, its small compact and packs a hell of a punch. Braking and handling make it a fun experience to drive. Then when I've had enough switch it up with the wife and get the best of both worlds. Too bad I can't use my links to lower it but that how it goes.
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A black series CLK on the other hand is not a chick car, it's got fat flared fenders and a beefy quad exhaust.
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CLK Black vs SL55
Ok.
I guess I can jugde this more than most.
They had a New CLK55 Black at the AMG Challenge in Fontana
last Friday. We fired it up. But no driving. Bummer.
And I also own a SL55.
So here is the list as I see it.
Value. The CLK55 Black will hold value if you keep the miles down.
Only 1 of 300. My SL55 is 1 of over 1000 at least.
Looks. Depends on your style. Lots of nice carbon inside for the
CLK55 Black. But outside. I think the SL55 is better.
Speed. This is close. The SL55 has more HP but the CLK has less
weight.
Sound. This new Black sounds tough. But the Super Charged SL55
has a growl that is very unique and mean.
Turns. CLK will win this. Less weight.
Chic Factor. SL55 with top down. Wins always.
Most girls would not know a CLK55 Black from any other AMG.
Thats why posers do what they do and false badge.
That SL convertable thing is the deal maker for me.
Then again. I saw the CLK DTM.
Here are some pics.
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk55-amg-clk63-amg-w208-w209/192868-clk-dtm-pics.html
This car has the SL55 engine with 75 More HP. Then the decision is easy.
But the other issue is. Not street legal. and only 1 of 100. Not to mention
about $ 350K.
I guess I can jugde this more than most.
They had a New CLK55 Black at the AMG Challenge in Fontana
last Friday. We fired it up. But no driving. Bummer.
And I also own a SL55.
So here is the list as I see it.
Value. The CLK55 Black will hold value if you keep the miles down.
Only 1 of 300. My SL55 is 1 of over 1000 at least.
Looks. Depends on your style. Lots of nice carbon inside for the
CLK55 Black. But outside. I think the SL55 is better.
Speed. This is close. The SL55 has more HP but the CLK has less
weight.
Sound. This new Black sounds tough. But the Super Charged SL55
has a growl that is very unique and mean.
Turns. CLK will win this. Less weight.
Chic Factor. SL55 with top down. Wins always.
Most girls would not know a CLK55 Black from any other AMG.
Thats why posers do what they do and false badge.
That SL convertable thing is the deal maker for me.
Then again. I saw the CLK DTM.
Here are some pics.
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk55-amg-clk63-amg-w208-w209/192868-clk-dtm-pics.html
This car has the SL55 engine with 75 More HP. Then the decision is easy.
But the other issue is. Not street legal. and only 1 of 100. Not to mention
about $ 350K.
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Ok.
I guess I can jugde this more than most.
They had a New CLK55 Black at the AMG Challenge in Fontana
last Friday. We fired it up. But no driving. Bummer.
And I also own a SL55.
So here is the list as I see it.
Value. The CLK55 Black will hold value if you keep the miles down.
Only 1 of 300. My SL55 is 1 of over 1000 at least.
Looks. Depends on your style. Lots of nice carbon inside for the
CLK55 Black. But outside. I think the SL55 is better.
Speed. This is close. The SL55 has more HP but the CLK has less
weight.
Sound. This new Black sounds tough. But the Super Charged SL55
has a growl that is very unique and mean.
Turns. CLK will win this. Less weight.
Chic Factor. SL55 with top down. Wins always.
Most girls would not know a CLK55 Black from any other AMG.
Thats why posers do what they do and false badge.
That SL convertable thing is the deal maker for me.
Then again. I saw the CLK DTM.
Here are some pics.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=192868
This car has the SL55 engine with 75 More HP. Then the decision is easy.
But the other issue is. Not street legal. and only 1 of 100. Not to mention
about $ 350K.
I guess I can jugde this more than most.
They had a New CLK55 Black at the AMG Challenge in Fontana
last Friday. We fired it up. But no driving. Bummer.
And I also own a SL55.
So here is the list as I see it.
Value. The CLK55 Black will hold value if you keep the miles down.
Only 1 of 300. My SL55 is 1 of over 1000 at least.
Looks. Depends on your style. Lots of nice carbon inside for the
CLK55 Black. But outside. I think the SL55 is better.
Speed. This is close. The SL55 has more HP but the CLK has less
weight.
Sound. This new Black sounds tough. But the Super Charged SL55
has a growl that is very unique and mean.
Turns. CLK will win this. Less weight.
Chic Factor. SL55 with top down. Wins always.
Most girls would not know a CLK55 Black from any other AMG.
Thats why posers do what they do and false badge.
That SL convertable thing is the deal maker for me.
Then again. I saw the CLK DTM.
Here are some pics.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=192868
This car has the SL55 engine with 75 More HP. Then the decision is easy.
But the other issue is. Not street legal. and only 1 of 100. Not to mention
about $ 350K.
Anyways, I thought the CLK black series used the 6.2 generating 504bhp. That's more than the 06 SL55
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Totally agree
I agreed with so many of you, i couldn't even decide who to quote.LOL. I am sure you guys see my hesitance. I am not a track guy so the CLK black won't do me any good. I think what peeked my interest is the obvious performance advantages it will have. But wow! you guys hit it right on the head. It looks like a kitted out CLK, not my style at all. I think it is more of a track guys car, or a kids car. Most girls could even care less about the aggressive look that it has. Oh and where in God's green earth did you guys see a 05 or 06 SL65 for 100 grand
They are still around 130-150 in my neighborhood. Oh and sorry Flyers, the guy with the CLK, I am sure no one here meant to hurt your feelings.
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I'm sure he won't take offense ... just as surely as none of the SL55 owners will take offense that the CLK (black) will beat a SL55 straight and kill it on curves.
The CLK63 BLack(remember its the 6.2 liter motor) will have the same amount of hp as the SL55. THe black series has been tuned to output the E63 hp numbers. The normal CLK63 convertibles have been slightly restricted.
This is a 1 in 300 type car ... the SL55 ( heh sorry has thousand"S")
From your messages it seems you would be better suited to stick with a SL.
I've driven the SL55 and SL65 and all I can say is that they are VERY heavy but obviously extremely luxurious.
Since you wont track the car ... don't buy the Black Series.
The CLK63 BLack(remember its the 6.2 liter motor) will have the same amount of hp as the SL55. THe black series has been tuned to output the E63 hp numbers. The normal CLK63 convertibles have been slightly restricted.
This is a 1 in 300 type car ... the SL55 ( heh sorry has thousand"S")
From your messages it seems you would be better suited to stick with a SL.
I've driven the SL55 and SL65 and all I can say is that they are VERY heavy but obviously extremely luxurious.
Since you wont track the car ... don't buy the Black Series.
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I agreed with so many of you, i couldn't even decide who to quote.LOL. I am sure you guys see my hesitance. I am not a track guy so the CLK black won't do me any good. I think what peeked my interest is the obvious performance advantages it will have. But wow! you guys hit it right on the head. It looks like a kitted out CLK, not my style at all. I think it is more of a track guys car, or a kids car. Most girls could even care less about the aggressive look that it has. Oh and where in God's green earth did you guys see a 05 or 06 SL65 for 100 grand
They are still around 130-150 in my neighborhood. Oh and sorry Flyers, the guy with the CLK, I am sure no one here meant to hurt your feelings. ![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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..........here one on ebay with a buy it now price of $113K. I have seen one sell for $109k. I am sure if you call the seller and offer him $109K he won't refuse. If you buy this car, remember my finders fee.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-...QQcmdZViewItem
........what s interesting is that by the time the CLK63 black series comes out, you can probably get an SL65 for under $100K. I know they are different cars, so no need repeating that.
Ted
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I agree, you are spot on with your judgment. The clk black is undoubtedly a high performance beast, but it is not a daily driver. I would love to have it available in my garage, but the practicality of it will leave it waiting for a sunny weekend drive.
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At that price point...
For all performance...get a low milage Ford GT or Gallardo.
If you need more of a daily driver get a used SL65 or Bently GT.
If it is one of 10 rigs in the stable......pull the trigger.
For all performance...get a low milage Ford GT or Gallardo.
If you need more of a daily driver get a used SL65 or Bently GT.
If it is one of 10 rigs in the stable......pull the trigger.
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I'd say that unless you plan some track work I'd stick with the SL55, the CLK63 Black Series isn't going to be a good daily driver according to most accounts.
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