IngenereAMG

My engineers just got done with our latest 65 ECU tune. Here's the dyno.....

To translate.....I believe that it converts to 711hp/829lb ft. That isn't too bad for some ECU work!

Schiznick

What is the rear wheel HP?

absent

What dyno did your people use?
Never seen anything like that readout in US.....

IngenereAMG

If you look at the notes at the bottom of the dyno, the first line is at the crank. The second line is at the wheels, The third line is the drive train loss. The fourth line is the torque, and the fifth line are the conditions at the time.

The 487nm translates to 664hp at the wheels.

ItalianStallion

WOAH! Thats f***in serious power.

Do you guys have an ECU file for the 600 cars as well? Thanks.

IngenereAMG

Yes, we do the 600 cars, and because it is a twin turbo, there are alot of fun things that can be done!

StealthAuto

Was the dyno testing done in Germany? It looks like it. If so, what fuel was used? Keep in mind the fuel mixtures used in Germany and octane levels will be different than here in the states.

Lastly, how much boost were you running to gain that power and what are the air/fuel ratios?

JAYCL600

id be interested in knowing what r these fun things, id also be interested in seeing RWHP for cars you have dynoed here in the states, thanks jason@gemsbyjwade.com

IngenereAMG

The dyno was done in Germany, using a US Spec car and 91 octane fuel.

Schiznick

563 RWHP to 664 RWHP? That is insane from just a tune? 101 RWHP is impressive. No other changes? How does the engine handle the heat?

I have never seen a stock SL65 dyno 560 RWHP.

How much?

BiTurboAmg

My car is close to that stock. Before we added the air filters and exhaust work the car made 552whp and after made 559whp. If a tune can get you 100whp that is great. I think the strongest 65 I have heard of is like 580whp.

IngenereAMG

Here's a link to our Merc page.

http://www.veloceperformance.com/mercedes.htm

JAYCL600

yes Jude we know youre car is a freak The highest I know of is actually 611HP in the states. Your numbers are a bit "out there" now this is not saying they are fabricated, Im just saying they are a bit off base from the norm especially for the octane fuel you are running. Again as I stated earlier, Im interested in what u can do for the biturbos, I have a 600 that puts down 537rwhp and have spent a bit of time tinkering with mine, if you have substantially better figures for a 600 id like to see them as Im always in search of more power

JAYCL600

i guess the software isnt all that if you cannot answer some simple questions? good luck here

IngenereAMG

Jay:

I am sorry. I guess I didn't get that you were speaking to me (There are always 10 conversations going on at the same time!)

Thanks Mike for PM'ing me and getting me back to this thread!

I think that you were looking for what results we have for the 600. The biturbo engine is very tunable. Depending on the conditions, I have seen an increase from 80-100+hp, with a commensurate increase in torque.

CarCrazed4Life

Does the ECU software do anything for the tranny software that slugs the 600s down? I've heard of some guys getting S/CL65 software for the tranny, but does your package include correcting that tranny software issues?

If so, and its just software... I'm down for the S600 software!

IngenereAMG

Our ECU tuning does not specifically address the transmission. Some of our ECU clients have said that their gearboxes seem to be shifting quicker, but that may be due to being more aggressive and/or using the manual mode. There is some adaptation taking place.

But to specifically address the transmission, we have just introduced TCU tuning. We are going to offer it seperately, or as a package with ECU tuning. Check our web site for details, or email me with questions.

bks600

Hey I have a 07 s600 and wanted to do an ecu upgrade. How do yo guys feel about powerchip, is it any different from the rentech chip

IngenereAMG

I don't know ther products that well, but I can tell you that one of the reasons I put this company together is that I knew that I had a team who could do a better job.

One of our 55 clients with just an ECU tune ran against a friend's car that had the rennteck ECU/pulley combo and was much faster......

phatmitzu

Anything with the A/F readout? The gain is a little too impressive with just an ECU tune.

whoover

I thought that the TCU needed to be changed if you exceeded its 1000 Nm/ 738 ft-lb certification because it had some protective electronics. This is why (I thought) the Renntech 65 ECU package includes TCU changes. Is that not the case?

IngenereAMG

I'll have to check with my tech guys to see what we have, but there is a thread here where one of our clients with just ECU work had no problems handling a Renntech car with ECU/pulley changes.


[/QUOTE=whoover;]I thought that the TCU needed to be changed if you exceeded its 1000 Nm/ 738 ft-lb certification because it had some protective electronics. This is why (I thought) the Renntech 65 ECU package includes TCU changes. Is that not the case?[/QUOTE]

We have not had any transmission issues with the cars that we have done. If guys want specific changes, we can also tune the TCU.

goalie_k

[QUOTE=IngenereAMG;2421218]I'll have to check with my tech guys to see what we have, but there is a thread here where one of our clients with just ECU work had no problems handling a Renntech car with ECU/pulley changes.


Yeah, sure.

absent

[QUOTE=IngenereAMG;2421218]I'll have to check with my tech guys to see what we have, but there is a thread here where one of our clients with just ECU work had no problems handling a Renntech car with ECU/pulley changes.[QUOTE]
Aren't we talking apples and oranges here?
ECU/pulley would apply to 55 series ,not the 65 we are talking about........

IngenereAMG

[QUOTE=absent;2422588][QUOTE=IngenereAMG;2421218]I'll have to check with my tech guys to see what we have, but there is a thread here where one of our clients with just ECU work had no problems handling a Renntech car with ECU/pulley changes.Sorry! I got confused.......I have been answering alot of 55K questions, and we tuned 5 this week! I must have 55K on the brain!