CoogiMan

I'm seriously considering the new SL63 AMG. A friend said he was calling around and received feedback that these will sell at sticker or ABOVER sticker, plus a long waitlist??

I'm impatient but don't want to pay ABOVE sticker.....any ideas?

seriously though. Serious here.

Cyrusx7

Gallardo.

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

Of course they're gonna say waitlist now, then six months after release they're going to have to PAY YOU to sell them. Just wait it out.

WSH

Wow....surprised that SL63 would be particularly difficult to find early @MSRP....

May want to call dealers in Podunk, e.g., suburban Detroit, Cleveland, etc to assess supply/demand balance....

Problem is those dealers tend to (logically) receive late/fewer allocs...and, in era of corp-owned dealer chains, often $150K+ cars are (logically) transferred to a store in SF/NYC/LA/Chic to rapidly sell it at most profitable price while mkt is tight for first few wks/mths....

And best dealers in SF/NYC/LA/Chic tend to have deep bases of repeat AMG SL/S/CL buyers who are automatically first/early on any list and get any car at MSRP (max)....same first dibs/MSRP pricing is provided w/new Ferraris in SF and Greenwich for the many repeat customers....

Dealers w/o repeat cust bases (hmmm, one wonders why) naturally will seek out best prices they can command in open mkt...and buyers w/o positive existing relationships tend to be the consumers in those open mkts....

Schiznick

Congrats, I have never seen that many slashes used in a single post......

CY

The new CL was above MSRP here in LA when it hit the dealers. Then a month later it was at MSRP. Then a month after that it was possible to get a discount. This will be no different and I really dont think the above MSRP thing will last long on this MB.

FloridaE55

I can tell you that my local dealer will have to wait long for potential customers if he wants above sticker...

Ted Baldwin

..........please don't be one more person to fall for this pseudo-exlusivity bs. I don't blame the dealers for calling the same play every match. Imagine if you were a football coach and you had one play call and it worked everytime, will you change it? Each time a new AMG comes out, we hear the same song and dance. It is so played out, but people keep falling for it. Some people who's intelligence I question, really think that these cars can only be had after a long wait and after paying above MSRP. I agree with you about not paying above MSRP. I further state that paying above sticker for an AMG is a sign of mental retardation in my opinion. Such a person should get tested before having children.

Ted

CoogiMan

"I further state that paying above sticker for an AMG is a sign of mental retardation in my opinion. Such a person should get tested before having children."


That was a hilarious comment! I highly doubt people are going to receive discounts on this car early in the car buying game - and I'd like to have mine asap as to truly enjoy the "short" summer in Utah. Anyone have a great contact at a dealership?

Coogi

NOTA4RE

yeah that pretty much sums up all the areas of the country where people are used to and comfortable with over paying for almost everything.

Addicted2Speed

Some people would rather pay over MSRP to have the car right now, before everyone else. I would personally shop around, because $10k-$20k is a lot of money to me, but for some people, its pocket change

Ted Baldwin

............the point is there is NO waitlist for this car. The only waiting involved is that the car is not yet at the dealerships, so you can't drive it till it gets there and you pick it up. The moment it arrives at your local dealer and you go and pick it up, it has also arrived at another persons local dealer and available to the masses. So what is the person paying above MSRP for? it is almost as if some want to pay above MSRP to buy into some exclusivity fantasy that does not exist.

Ted

NOTA4RE

Because we all secretly hate each other. The salesman hates the buyer the sales manager hates the salesman. The dealership owner hates the sales manager. The manufacturer rep hates the Manufacturer. The salesman hate the customer. And ultimately just about anyone will ***** the other one over for an extra nickle. The person who over pays wants to be first one to own the car on the block...why?
IMO the Mercedes cars are over priced to begin with. They also depreciate way too fast.

vixapphire

in this economy, or at least where it looks like it's going, if you're paying anywhere near sticker you are either a lotto winner or a complete moron.

there is no third option, people.

NOTA4RE

The only way I would pay above sticker for a Mercedes is if one were built and the entire company vanished right after. The value of the car is sure to go down and go down a lot at a breath taking speed.

SL2003driver

X10. Anyone that would buy this mid-model running change for anything more then 15% off MSRP is a moran.

IngenereAMG

My first Merc was the SL55, and as much of a great car as it is, and it was the starting point for a business, I will never buy another new one again.

I was the first to get one, and people were offering me $50K over MSRP and I should have taken it, but I bought the whole 'limited production' thing. I was used to Ferrari, and what limited production meant to them. Limited production to Merc means..... limited to as many cars as we can pump out!

There will be no wait, and don't pay over for it.

CoogiMan

Show me where I can find 15% off MSRP for this new SL63.

CLK Masters

GALLARDO!

for that much money, U CAN GET A LAMBO!!!!!

pretty much 10x cooler in every respect.

if you in the age group of 18-50 get the LAMBO!

NOTA4RE

Very easy if people weren't self centered, selfish, rotten, etc. With the internet the consumer could contol the market place. Mercedes would not be able to sell a single car for over sticker if everyone agreed not to buy one for over sticker.
But it is not even possible to get 2 people to agree to the same thing let alone everyone.

SL2003driver

Did not state you could, just that you are stupid to buy one if you don't. I got 20% off my new 2008. Why should you not get a better deal on the ugly 2009? The only reason people will pay more is because they have more money then sense.

CoogiMan

I hope that you are talking about purchasing 6 months after the model is available. $20,000-$25,000 off of a brand new SL63 would be an amazing deal and I don't believe that it is available for that type of purchase price. Lower the invoice? For a refreshed, added enhancements model? In your dreams bud.

The reason why you got such a killer deal (20% so you say) is because this model was coming out and you essentially bought the old style. Good for you, if that's what the intention was.

NOTA4RE

the pain is coming

SL2003driver

Well atleast I will be in good company . But we will only feel the pain if we are selling. I just got mine so it will be several years.

Schiznick

Just remember that since you got 20% off of the old design SL that your 50%2 year depreciation starts 20% lower. So, your 2008 SL55 should be worth about 40K in 2010/2011.

As it has been mentioned here, these cars are worth what we are willing to pay for them. If we expect huge discounts then we will get them by not paying full price.

Just don't expect incredible resale values when you expect to get 20% off sticker. It just doesn't work like that.

I remember the days when AMG's held their values very well, 99 - 2003. You could buy a 208 CLK55 or 210 E55 drive it for a year and sell it for a 5K loss. Even the 211 E55 and 230 SL55 in 2003 could be driven for a year with little depreciation.

Funny since they imported like 5000 SL55's into the US in 2003. This tells you that it is not only volumes it is peoples willingness to pay.

At 5000 units, every dealer could have had what like 15 SL55's in 2003???? Not exactly a rare car but that didn't stop everyone from buying them.

All that said, it doesn't stop me from buying cars but I agree with everyone..... don't ever buy a car at over sticker. Use the internet and your phone and never pay more than MSRP.

My .02