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SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: KLEEMANN Bi-Turbo ECU SPECIAL!
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ALL KLEEMANN SPECIALS ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH GMP PERFORMANCE!!!!!!
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Hi, does this special offer still going on?? Seem like ppl here are getting
good result here from k2. I have a sl600 05 and what are the gas octane
should I use after ecu and tcu upgrade for best result. We got 94 92 in my area.
good result here from k2. I have a sl600 05 and what are the gas octane
should I use after ecu and tcu upgrade for best result. We got 94 92 in my area.
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Yes the sale is still on. If you can get 94 all the time get the 93 program, if its hit or miss get the 91 and put 92 in it. you can always run higher octane but never lower.
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Sorry, I don't get what you mean by "if it hit or miss"
I am guessing you meant if I don't get 94 around somehow I can
switch for 93 to 91 program at the ecu??
Also how big a different in hp figure will be found in term of using from
91 to 93??
I am guessing you meant if I don't get 94 around somehow I can
switch for 93 to 91 program at the ecu??
Also how big a different in hp figure will be found in term of using from
91 to 93??
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Sorry about that,
What I meant was what if you can always get 93 octane or higher (like 94 in your case) and you never travel to areas that only carry 91 such as california, then I would get the 93 tune. What I mean by hit or miss meaning if 93 or better is not always around and you have to settle for ANYTHING LESS than 93, get the 91. You will see better performance with the 93 tune while running 93 or higher than you would running the 91 tune. You cant get both tunes you can only chose one or the other.
What I meant was what if you can always get 93 octane or higher (like 94 in your case) and you never travel to areas that only carry 91 such as california, then I would get the 93 tune. What I mean by hit or miss meaning if 93 or better is not always around and you have to settle for ANYTHING LESS than 93, get the 91. You will see better performance with the 93 tune while running 93 or higher than you would running the 91 tune. You cant get both tunes you can only chose one or the other.
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My sarcasm was directed more toward the Renntech-bashing originator. Sorry if you were offended.
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I know you didn't write it, but your use of the ROFL smily threw me. I don't find it even mildly amusing.
My sarcasm was directed more toward the Renntech-bashing originator. Sorry if you were offended.
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My sarcasm was directed more toward the Renntech-bashing originator. Sorry if you were offended.
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I know you didn't write it, but your use of the ROFL smily threw me. I don't find it even mildly amusing.
My sarcasm was directed more toward the Renntech-bashing originator. Sorry if you were offended.
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My sarcasm was directed more toward the Renntech-bashing originator. Sorry if you were offended.
https://mbworld.org/forums/performan...-question.html
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If we wanted you to post your ignorant sh-t, we'd f-cking tell you. Now go back to the bleachers with the rest of the charity seat winners before you get hit in the head with a slow pitched baseball.
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Sorry about that,
What I meant was what if you can always get 93 octane or higher (like 94 in your case) and you never travel to areas that only carry 91 such as california, then I would get the 93 tune. What I mean by hit or miss meaning if 93 or better is not always around and you have to settle for ANYTHING LESS than 93, get the 91. You will see better performance with the 93 tune while running 93 or higher than you would running the 91 tune. You cant get both tunes you can only chose one or the other.
What I meant was what if you can always get 93 octane or higher (like 94 in your case) and you never travel to areas that only carry 91 such as california, then I would get the 93 tune. What I mean by hit or miss meaning if 93 or better is not always around and you have to settle for ANYTHING LESS than 93, get the 91. You will see better performance with the 93 tune while running 93 or higher than you would running the 91 tune. You cant get both tunes you can only chose one or the other.
It was my understanding that there were two programs: 1. a 91/93 octane program that "adapts" to the octane level up to 93 octane 2. a 100 octane program that was not recommended unless you put 100 octane gas ALL the time. Can someone confirm this or clarify it?
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What he's saying is it's always better to put a higher octane in as opposed to a lesser octane.
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This coming from the rocket scientist that thinks less rotating mass on rear wheels doesn't improve 1/4 mile times.
If we wanted you to post your ignorant sh-t, we'd f-cking tell you. Now go back to the bleachers with the rest of the charity seat winners before you get hit in the head with a slow pitched baseball.
If we wanted you to post your ignorant sh-t, we'd f-cking tell you. Now go back to the bleachers with the rest of the charity seat winners before you get hit in the head with a slow pitched baseball.
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Now I never said that lighter weight wheels would make no difference, I said that the difference would not be that significant in this car. But please, prove me wrong. Do the experiment. I am not the only one here who would like to see the results.
It does seem a bit incongruous that a guy who is purchasing an SL65 is whining about a few grand for ECU TCU upgrades... but that's just my perspective. Perhaps I mistook that whining for Renntech bashing.
On a positive note, I'm sure that your mastery of language makes your folks very proud.
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Now is this any way to treat the person who informed you about the Kleemann special in the first place...
https://mbworld.org/forums/3227946-post2.html
Now I never said that lighter weight wheels would make no difference, I said that the difference would not be that significant in this car. But please, prove me wrong. Do the experiment. I am not the only one here who would like to see the results.
It does seem a bit incongruous that a guy who is purchasing an SL65 is whining about a few grand for ECU TCU upgrades... but that's just my perspective. Perhaps I mistook that whining for Renntech bashing.
On a positive note, I'm sure that your mastery of language makes your folks very proud.
https://mbworld.org/forums/3227946-post2.html
Now I never said that lighter weight wheels would make no difference, I said that the difference would not be that significant in this car. But please, prove me wrong. Do the experiment. I am not the only one here who would like to see the results.
It does seem a bit incongruous that a guy who is purchasing an SL65 is whining about a few grand for ECU TCU upgrades... but that's just my perspective. Perhaps I mistook that whining for Renntech bashing.
On a positive note, I'm sure that your mastery of language makes your folks very proud.
Rotational mass is a killer on any car, a few have dyno proof that lighter wheels can free up 30+ rwhp...
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Now is this any way to treat the person who informed you about the Kleemann special in the first place...
https://mbworld.org/forums/3227946-post2.html
Now I never said that lighter weight wheels would make no difference, I said that the difference would not be that significant in this car. But please, prove me wrong. Do the experiment. I am not the only one here who would like to see the results.
It does seem a bit incongruous that a guy who is purchasing an SL65 is whining about a few grand for ECU TCU upgrades... but that's just my perspective. Perhaps I mistook that whining for Renntech bashing.
On a positive note, I'm sure that your mastery of language makes your folks very proud.
https://mbworld.org/forums/3227946-post2.html
Now I never said that lighter weight wheels would make no difference, I said that the difference would not be that significant in this car. But please, prove me wrong. Do the experiment. I am not the only one here who would like to see the results.
It does seem a bit incongruous that a guy who is purchasing an SL65 is whining about a few grand for ECU TCU upgrades... but that's just my perspective. Perhaps I mistook that whining for Renntech bashing.
On a positive note, I'm sure that your mastery of language makes your folks very proud.
Having lighter wheels will also make the car handle and brake better.
Ask around about this and you will find that I speaketh the truth young grasshopper.
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Yes there are multiple tunes per octane. There is a 100 octane tune as well. This is common with all cars. Actually all cars with a computer are programmed from the factory to run on a certain octane and specify this in the owners manual as well as other areas on the car, just like what grade of oil to use in the engine. Detonation will occur if too low of an octane is used which isn't a good thing in your engine.
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Yes there are multiple tunes per octane. There is a 100 octane tune as well. This is common with all cars. Actually all cars with a computer are programmed from the factory to run on a certain octane and specify this in the owners manual as well as other areas on the car, just like what grade of oil to use in the engine. Detonation will occur if too low of an octane is used which isn't a good thing in your engine.
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I am talking about what Kleemann is offering.... I know all about octane ratings...detonation, knock sensors and the ECU pulling timing or advancing it. What I want to know is Kleemann offering 3 different tunes for 91...93 and 100 octane. Because when I spoke to Kleemann they were only offering a 91 octane tune which would "adapt" to the better quality gas...and that they did not recommend the 100 octane tune if you didn't put 100 octane all the time. I know most tuners offer a variety of tunes. I want to know specifically what Kleemann is offering.
Tom
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