mookie

Here is the link or u can read the story below!
http://www.hs-elektronik.com/datenbl...0ps-700nm.html

Kind of looks like a no-brainer to get this. I wonder if MB can ever find out if there is a problem? Any thoughts, Does it make a difference?

CHIPTUNING DATASHEET
POWER & TORQUE

Techn. Data
Series
Tuning

Displacement
5439
Compression ratio
9.0:1
max. Power
368 kW / 500 hp 391 kW / 532 hp
max. Torque
700 Nm
bei 2650 rpm 742 Nm
bei 2650 rpm
Kraftübertragung
Heckantrieb, Fünfgang-Automatik
Vmax
250 km/h
(elektronisch begrenzt)
300 km/h
(elektronisch begrenzt)

H&S Elektronik Fahrzeugtechnik GmbH
Tannenweg 4
82335 Berg am Starnberger See
Deutschland /
Telefon 0049 (0)8151 - 51613 / Fax 0049 (0)8151 - 51614

Price including installation:

EUR 1999,-


General information concerning chiptuning ...

Why we recommend the H&S tuningchip ...

Ever since the early days of combustion engines it was a necessity to adjust the air-fuel mixture as well as the ignition timing to the current operating conditions.

The drivers of Henry Ford´s ,,Model A", had adjustment devices for ignition timing and fuel supply mounted to the steering column, to manually influence the engines performance.
Nowadays all modern automobiles are equipped with electronic engine management. This applies to the ,,Central Port Injection"(Monojetronic), which functions similar to a carburator, just like to the far more efficient ,,Multi Port Injection", as well as to modern diesel direct injection systems, such as common rail systems in conjunction with boost control.

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The Electronic Control Unit (ECU)
Tasks of the ECU
Why not originally equipped ?
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Individual tuning of all automobiles
Scale of delivery
Procedure of chiptuning

1. The electronic control unit (ECU)

The ECU is responsible for the entire engine management. It measures, checks and controls all important functions of the engine under consideration of the current load condition and in dependence of all environmental parameters, such as ambient, engine coolant and oil temperature, intake air density etc.
This vital information concerning the current operating conditions, are gained by sensors, that very accurately pick up pressure, temperature, revolutions, speed, and air mass (density) signals. In accordance to this information, the ECU processes the ignition-, injection-, boost-, and lambda patterns, that are programmed on to a chip (EEPROM) inside the ECU and i.e. determines, in dependence to the load condition and other environmental parameters the ideal ignition timing, the necessary fuel amount in respect of the optimal injection timing and the corresponding boost.
During the process of chiptuning, this database, programmed on to the EEPOM(Chip) inside the ECU, is optimized. All relevant patterns and identifiers for, i.e. injection and ignition timing, boost control, load limitation and exhaust emissions, are being monitored over the entire rpm range of the engine and then changed within certain limits, in dependence to load and engine-rpm, so that the maximum horsepower and torque output, in consideration of the durability of the engine, as well as the least fuel consumption stand in an optimal relation to each other. Hereby we gain horsepower as well as a significantly higher torque output.
Generally one can say, that for turbocharged engines an increase of horsepower and torque of 20% to 40% and for normally aspirated engines 8% to 12% is realistic. In both cases acceleration, top end speed and elasticity improve significantly.
Moderate tuning will not have any effect on the durability of the engine as well as drivability of the car, as long as correct maintenance is provided and the engine is operated in a responsible manner. This can be applied to both, stock and tuned engines.

2. Tasks of the ECU

A) Retarding and advancing ignition timing
For an economic and efficient fuel combustion, it is important, to, under all possible driving conditions, compute the correct ignition timing in dependence of engine-rpm, load and other relevant parameters for diesel engines the right injection timing (pump timing).

B) Dwell control
In dependence of the engine-rpm the time between ignition trigger signals varies. To ensure a constant ignition energy it requires a certain ,,Primary Current" to flow through the windings of the ignition coil. To sufficiently build up a magnetic field inside the coil, it requires time. The time delay from switching to interrupting the primary circuit has great influence on the voltage induction into the secondary circuit of the ignition coil the higher the engine-rpm, the shorter the delay from switching to interrupting the primary circuit, the less energy is inducted into the secondary circuit. This may lead to engine misfire at high rpm.

C) Detonation detection
On all modern automobile engines the compression ratio is rather high in order to achieve higher torque output and better fuel economy. Due to high compression ratios the risk of an uncontrolled inflammation of the air-fuel mixture is, especially under high loads running at high rpm, potential is higher. Detonation causes severe engine damages. Whenever detonation is detected, the ECU will retard the ignition timing for the particular cylinder.

D) Fuel injection
In accordance to the signals air-mass (air-flow), rpm, load and correctional factors such as ambient as well as coolant temperature etc., the ECU determines the momentarily needed fuel amount and injection timing. This increases fuel economy and reduces exhaust emissions and in the mean time is responsible for a higher specific engine output.

E) Lambda control
One of the previously mentioned correctional factors, is the lambda-signal. The lambda sensor located in the exhaust system, in front of the catalytic converter constantly measures the remaining oxygen in the exhaust gases. This signal is used by the ECU, too, under all driving conditions except ,, Full Load", adjust the air to fuel ratio to ,,Lambda 1" (14,8 kg of air to 1kg of fuel) and ensures the highest degree of effectiveness of the catalytic converter and at the same time lowest exhaust emissions. Under full load condition i.e. top end speed, the Lambda system, in order to gain higher engine output and prevent severe engine damage due to leanliness of the fuel-mixture, is deactivated.

F) Idle-speed control
In- and decreasing of internal friction related to varying engine temperatures and engine wear as well as operating conditions such as i.e. engagement of the air-conditioning compressor, will lead to a strongly fluctuating idle-speed. The engine rpm signal and current operating information, such as, idle contact, a/c engagement, gear detection(Park, Neutral- or Drive mode of the automatic transmission) etc., are used by the ECU to calculate the appropriate idle speed. Parameters for hot and cold start, in dependence of environmental conditions, are implemented i.e. High Idle during engine-warm-up.

mookie

And here is some more

G) Boost control
On cars with turbocharged engines the ECU calculates, in reference to the load indication, the pressure and the currently needed air charge- volume and adjusts, in dependence of the corresponding sensor signal, the appropriate boost.

H) EGR - Exhaust Gas Recirculation
In order to improve the " Exhaust Gas Quality" (reduction of NOx), exhaust gasses, by a certain volume, are inducted into the intake manifold under partial engine load.

I) Service, security and surveillance functions
- Monitoring of currently adjusted values, to avoid malfunction.
- Strict surveillance of "Drive by Wire" systems, meanwhile installed into all modern automobiles
as "E- Gas" (Electronic Gas Pedal).
- Recognition and memorization of system malfunctions.

J) Top end speed governor and rpm limitation
One very important function of the ECU is rpm limitation. Due to enormous mass and centrifugal forces, applied to all rotating and oscillating parts of the engine at high rpm, the maximum rpm range of a particular engine must be constructionally determined and programmed on to the EEProm. Excessively exceeding this max. value i.e. 6500rpm, will eventually result in severe engine damage. The rpm signal is constantly monitored and in case the programmed value of i.e. 6500 rpm is reached, the ECU, either by reduction or interruption of fuel supply or on modern E-gas systems, reduction of throttle position, or by ignition switch-off, prevents exceeding of the max. rpm value. The same parameters apply to the top end speed governor.

3. Why not originally equipped by the manufacturer ?

During the development of an automobile the manufacturers have to, in many respects, find compromises in terms of fuel efficiency, horsepower output, drivability and these days, the most important issue, exhaust emissions. Factors like fuel quality, maintenance, operational circumstances etc. as well as financial aspects i.e., insurance classifications, have to be taken under consideration. The manufacturers have to assure operational reliability for the final product worldwide, which means, that in most cases the actual engine potential is not reached.
Therefore the ignition, injection, boost, - etc. patterns programmed, are on the "save side".
Furthermore almost all manufacturers offer mechanically identical or almost identical engines with varying horsepower output. The gain in output is mainly achieved by software changes. The stronger and more expensive version of a particular model car, is often brought out on to the market 1-2 years later after the initial presentation. This is done to repeatedly draw the attention of customers, who already bought the previous model and might be willing to trade in and purchase the new release.
If you are willing to regularly perform car maintenance and loose some economic efficiency under full load, then a enormous output potential will be available to you. Our aim is, to significantly increase torque and horsepower output over the entire rpm range of the engine, especially on turbo charged engines. Here you will have the impression, after the optimization is done, to own a entirely different car or to have changed into the next higher vehicle class.

4. Individual tuning in of all automobiles

A tuningchip, supplied by H&S Electronics GMBH, respectively the tuning software, is individually programmed in order to maintain the vehicle characteristics, such as variant codings like i.e. manual 4, 5 or 6-speed, automatic transmission, traction control systems, air-conditioning etc., as well as information referring to the immobilization system, vehicle identification numbers, engine id-numbers, diagnostic identifiers, malfunction detection and memorization, parameters for emergency operation in case of system failures etc.
Consequently your car can be serviced and diagnosed just like a standard model car without chiptuning and the modification of your software is not detectable by the manufactures and their service stations.

A) Vehicle type, transmission version and power train
Vehicle type, transmission version and the power train naturally are decisive factors for the tuning-in and layout of the software to be programmed into the ECU. Rear, front end or permanent 4wheel drive, 5 or 6-speed manual or automatic transmission, 4-door sedan, coupe, convertible, station wagon or off-road vehicle etc.- these aspects initially reflect into the software development even when using an identical engine type.

B) Engine characteristics
Naturally a differently tuned software will change the engine characteristics, thus enabling the particular car manufacturer, to install the same engine, using differently tuned software, into various model cars of his production line. Each model car and vehicle type will then have it's particular characteristics, without having to develop an entirely new engine.

C) Dispersal within the series and subcontractors
A particular manufacturer in example, produces 1000 engines with a nominal output of 150 hp. After the final assembly, these engines usually undergo an approximately 20 minutes lasting test run, to recheck the mechanical functionality and to determine the output as well as the maximum torque. These engines however are subject to a certain dispersal by means of tolerances among various engine components such as, pistons, cylinder heads, engine blocks, gasketing materials etc., that lead to varying output- and torque measurements, so that about a third really has an output of 150 hp, the other third tends to develop a higher output, while the remaining third produces less than the desired horsepower rating. In order to bring these engines on to the same level, the software for the engine management is explicitly adapted to the particular engine series. In the same way stability characteristics as well as differences and tolerances of certain components, installed into a particular production series, that have been supplied by subcontractors, are taken under consideration. By means of cost, quality and logistical reasons, very often different subcontractors supply an identical vehicle component.

D) Fuel quality and emission standards
On principal nowadays there are two different vehicle layouts, as far as emissions and fuel qualities are concerned. Relevant for us within Europe, is the so called "EC-Norm", that applies to all automobiles registered throughout Europe.
Generally vehicles that conform to US-specifications are operated outside of Europe. These vehicles are tuned according to Asian and American standards.
Just by changing to 98 octane fuel, or even higher octane qualities, depending on availability, an improvement in agility and "revability" is achieved. Some manufacturers recommend using 98 octane fuel for even better performance of their "Top models", although these engines are tuned for burning 95 octane fuel.
Actually most standard engines cannot really take advantage of the 98 octane fuel. Best indication here for is, if i.e., the Italian version of a particular automobile is rated with exactly the same output as the corresponding German or Austrian edition, even though unleaded 98 octane fuel is not available in Italy. Consequently the Italian version should have less horsepower, but this is not the case. On all diesel and turbo diesel engines we encounter a similar situation in respect of the cetan value, which is an indicator for the ignitability of diesel fuel at low ambient temperatures. The concentration of sulfur is another important factor, concerning diesel fuel.

E) Software updates
Naturally the rapid hard and software development has massively influenced the automobile production nowadays. While home based desktop-PC's and laptop computers are regularly updated or upgraded, the software onboard a modern automobile remains in an untouched stage. In most cases the latest level of knowledge in programming and control engineering has now further influence on existing automobile control and regulation systems. Our tuning files are programmed in cognition of the latest development in automobile production, and can therefore be considered as a tremendous improvement and upgrade.
After reading the previous explanations about chiptuning it becomes clear, why each ECU has to be individually programmed, in order to gain a maximum in quality, reliability, durability, functionality and accuracy. One as well should, under all circumstances, refrain from installing components or units, that manipulate measurement data and sensor values. These unqualified interferences into the data transfer to and from the ECU may result in disturbances within the entire system, that in the worst case can even lead to severe engine damage.





5. Scale of delivery when purchasing a H&S tuningchip

mookie

And the rest

When purchasing an H&S tuningchip, you receive a well balanced increase in horsepower and torque not only on the high end under full load, but also in the low and mid ranges, without having negative effect on the exhaust emissions. Due to the optimization the specific fuel consumption under partial engine load, is reduced by approximately 0,5 ltr./100km.
By modifying certain parameters the characteristically torque output of a particular engine can be optimized for hauling trailers, which means high torque output at lower rpm.

We guarantee a faultless and failure free tuning software, that doesn't interfere with any maintenance, service and diagnostic related features of the electronic control system onboard a particular vehicle.

We grant a lifetime warranty on our hard and software, that is involved during the process of chiptuning. We exclusively use hardware components of well known manufacturers such as AMD, Intel and SGS-Thomson. Should contrary to all expectations a chip show a hardware defect, we will replace the chip as well as the on the chip programmed data, free of charge.
Excluded are damages caused by failures within the electrical system, i.e. shorts, insufficient power and current supply etc., improper handling i.e., exposure to magnetic fields or unqualified tampering with.

We furthermore offer the possibility of, without any additional charges, restoring the original condition of the vehicle, in case this is requested or required. Since we use identical components, the tuning file is programmed on to, we, upon request, hand out the original EPROM. On most newer cars though, the original data are erased and the tuning file is programmed on to the original EEPROM (externally flashed), so that our software modifications are not detectable, even not for the car manufactures and their service stations.

6. Procedure of chiptuning

Generally you have three options of, how to reach us. The first possibility is, to visit us at our parent firm in southern Germany right on the beautiful shoreline of " Starnberger See", about 20 km south of Munich / Bavaria. Secondly, you may make an appointment with one of our authorized dealers. The third option would be, to send us the ECU by mail. In case you wish to use postal service, shipping and handling are subject to extra charges. Routing directions of how to find us or one of our dealers, you may download from our internet site, or contact us directly by telephone.

The optimization of the ECU requires about 1,5-2 hrs. First of all the component, containing the original file, is removed from the ECU. The contents of the EPROM is read and archived. All relevant patterns are 3D graphically portrayed and then individually changed, in order to achieve the optimal performance. The optimized database is then implemented into the original software, the checksum is recalculated, so that the modifications of your software are undetectable for manufactures and service stations. Now the modified software is programmed on to the EPROM and the ECU is then reinstalled into your automobile and road tested. Since we tune all cars individually, high mileage and other circumstances of operation can be taken under consideration.

Wolfman

In theory this sounds plausible but it would be interesting if anyone had had any experience with the company and the resulting change in performance.

The problem is that this can only be done safely if the car is at their location in Germany...

Wolfman

mookie

Thought I read that they only need the chip?

Wolfman

You are right, but that way your car would be out of commission until the chip arrives safely back to the US. If it get's lost you sitting there with a dead car and voided your warranty.

Reading this, I believe that they want to check that the chip works:
Now the modified software is programmed on to the EPROM and the ECU is then reinstalled into your automobile and road tested. Since we tune all cars individually, high mileage and other circumstances of operation can be taken under consideration.

To me this is too high risk with too little reward. I am enjoying the 500hp "as is"

Wolfman

blueSL

Chipping isn't for me either, no matter how convincing the case is.

Mookie, I'm certain you will find your car gives you all the power you can possibly use on US roads - it's coming soon isn't it?

London Lad

I think in the old days when chips just increased turbo boost and richened up the mix a bit they were fine but on a car like the sl55 with all the ECUs talking to each other and adjusting suspension, dampers and gearbox it may be asking for trouble.

As Blue says, 500 bhp is all I need for British roads.

Graham.

mookie

Yes, as of the 16th the car was at the port waiting for ship assignment in Germany. Soon eneough I guess, not sure what the time table is now but should not be more than 3 weeks right?

Sammy7783

I wouldn't be willing to risk loss of warrenty and problems in the future to a 130K car.... Especially when you have 500hp already....

RootN4U

Can you share how you got such detailed info about the whereabouts of your car? Mine has a build date of middle Feb and wondering how I can track it. Thanks

vraa

For you 500hp guys.. we start to feel bad! How much power do you think a SL500 could gain. And if its only the EPROM like a socket bios chip, this seems like a DIY project someone might be able to cook up. Maybe it can utilize something like the Xbox MilkSop Project. Then we can tweak all we want. I don't think it would void the warrenty. But i'm just speculating out loud what so far i know, which is probably incorrect!

mookie

RootN4U ----If u have a salesman who is on the ball and has a little bit of computer savy, all he has to do is key in the P.O. number ( Production Order ) in to his Netstar computer and he can tell you this. Dealers can tell what slots they have assigned to them to be built in the next 2-3 months. Then they allocate them to whom ever they want. Granted u may have specked the car, they may have changed it or never inputed into Netstar. You should get a PO # soon, and with that u can start to track it by calling your salesman and having him look it up. It only takes 2 minutes to do. I got the VIN # at the tail end of production. Good Luck. Just make sure they are not jerking u around. They know what date you are scheduled to be built by now. It goes in decades of the month, which means 1st-4th week. My dealer was jerking me around until I made waves and then I was finally assigned a spot. I never knew I did not have a spot and my salesman was getting congradulated by the other salesman for getting a slot for a car. Once I got the PO number I called MBUSA in Montvale NJ and spoke with the rep for this area who told me that my name was on that car with that PO#. After that I started to sleep and night. Good Luck

RootN4U

Thanks for the info. I DO have a PO number but didn't want to pester my salesman..I thought you may have had a way to get the info without going thru the dealer. Someone previously posted a phone number direct to Germany to get info. Has anyone tried that?...Thanks

mookie

Yes, I called last week maybe early Wednesday morning and he told me that my car was finished and had just left the factory that day. He then gave me my VIN# which I had gotten just the day before from my dealer. With a car like this u can call as aften as u like as far as I am concerned. They dont get to many of them,so its ok to be a pest. I would ask your dealer who is there represenative from the main office and call him to check the PO # against your name just to make sure its your car. You should allready have in your hand a NETSTAR printout (MSRP) with the PO# on it listing the car description and all the accessories codes that apply to color, interior, and all the options u ordered. Its like a window sticker. At the bottom it shows how much the car cost u including dest, delivery, and gas guzzler. It does not show however to whom the car is being sold to car ,other than your dealer.

RootN4U

Thanks, will call dealer tomorrow.

mookie

New update as of 1.17.03 my SL55 was on a boat called the -TANABATA- headed for the US, destination Maryland VPC.------------ ETA of 02.01.03. Then how many days to the dealer in New Jersey? We shall see, can not be more than a week I think.More to come.

vraa

i know what boat to raid.. thank you!

Pierre32///AMG

I had Chipped with H&S on two times, C43 and now C32, and I must say both cases the car is much faster than the OEM version, especially 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Additionally, you car get a no speed limit, and perhaps I will not go 185 mph in my C32 here at the US but is nice to know that your car has the full potential, as well as an intimidating topic when you talk about your car. Also, my C32 after the H&S and BMC filters is getting 311 whp and 305wlbf, no bad, and I had kill more than one car that It wasn't suppose to beat in the paper at the highway.
Besides, if you get a 55, well is so quick to 140mph that your will not need the speed limiter.
H&S chipping is undetectable, they do not open the ECU, they download and depending your engine limit these people customize your ECU and upload a new program, cool isn't it!
I hope it helps
Bye

mookie

The C 32 AMG offers special moments to all of its drivers. Impressive dynamics, for example, which are technically defined through a torque of 332 lb-ft, a power of 349 hp and a stopping distance of less than 112 feet from a speed of 60 mph - and visually with a look that is dynamic without being garish.

Acceleration is AMAZING. This is the fastest stock Mercedes ever produced: the C 32 AMG sedan loaded with two adults and luggage takes only 5.2 seconds to reach 62 mph according to Mercedes. The car is capable of runs to 60 in 4.5 seconds! (AutoCar review Jun 27th 2001)

I just cut this out of a article and I do not see the difference of what u have and a stock car after being chipped. Is it really undectable to anyone at mercedes, and how much does it cost.