SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: V12 Engine Out (feast your eyes)
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Killing time in Houston galleria while my princes laps up the 400 stores.
Not "too" concerned about internals (maybe the block ) since they are forged n we are less than 100hp/cylinder.
We left torque alone . I don't want axle/rear end/trans issues. Besides, we're never going to hook em early n if we did clutch will slip in current form no matter what anyone says.
Not "too" concerned about internals (maybe the block ) since they are forged n we are less than 100hp/cylinder.
We left torque alone . I don't want axle/rear end/trans issues. Besides, we're never going to hook em early n if we did clutch will slip in current form no matter what anyone says.
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SUPER CARS EXPOSED will be filming a special supercar shootout at the Texas Mile. Got called about including my car but I passed. Did not want my car put thru brutal testing by Tanner. (Tests would have included not just the mile but braking, autocross, 0-60, braking etc...). I like my car too much to hand it over to a stranger. Some of you may disagree but my car is an extension of my family
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I think you should take some pictures of your manifold and turbo setup, then a picture of your dyno results, and mail it off to Germany with the title 2012 SL600...
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holy crap 735 rwhp at 21 psi that's just silly
... what are the tq numbers?
keep it coming and best of luck on the TM brother!
What tires are you using for the 200+ mph run (R compund tires?)...Y rated are only rated for upto 189 if I'm not mistaken?
...make sure you nut and bolt the car AND torque lugnuts by hand in the morning and check between runs
...doing lap after lap at places like VIR and Watkins Glen when I used to race w/ BMW CCA and NASA GTS I can't emphasize the importance of this sorta thing especially at well over 150 mph...had a wheel come loose and shake the racecar violently on the back straight at Watkins Glen atop the climbing esses once at max speed in 5th gear just after a race had started...will never forget how that felt!
... what are the tq numbers? keep it coming and best of luck on the TM brother!
What tires are you using for the 200+ mph run (R compund tires?)...Y rated are only rated for upto 189 if I'm not mistaken?
...make sure you nut and bolt the car AND torque lugnuts by hand in the morning and check between runs ...doing lap after lap at places like VIR and Watkins Glen when I used to race w/ BMW CCA and NASA GTS I can't emphasize the importance of this sorta thing especially at well over 150 mph...had a wheel come loose and shake the racecar violently on the back straight at Watkins Glen atop the climbing esses once at max speed in 5th gear just after a race had started...will never forget how that felt!
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TEXAS MILE
I'm typing from my phone. I met Marko who also brought his car today. Cool Guy n his girl n mine got along good which helped them pass the time. I did not run on Fri. I ran a couple of times only today because wait times were 2 + hours standing n line. The car boosts about 500rpm later than stock. Its tough too hook up with my falken 305s. Rotoras were amazing but rotors already showing heat cracks even though they just got put on. Saw a flashed clk63 do 161mph all day. Porsche panamera tt (flashed) did 165. Marko did 185 mph. I did 190 on 21psi @ 11AFR (playing it safe ). We went to 23 (11AFR) n I could not hook even n 3rd. When I pulled up to get my speed they would not give it to me n said if I do it again I will be escorted out of
the event. Apparently I was only teched for 190. My gps showed 193. I'll post pic of it when I get back. Bottom line it took 350 extra hp to go from 173-193
It also took 150 hp extra to go from 185 to 193. I think it will take me another 200hp to hit 200mph. So about 1150-1200hp(crank ). A Ford GT with 1200hp will do 220 in the mile but its 1200 pounds lighter. The one variable we didn't explore was switching to drag slicks which may or may not be worth an extra 2-5mph for the mile.
My Turbos can sustain 30psi with the "sweet spot" at 26/27 but for now we are staying conservative on boost. n AFR, even though we believe this car has 1200-1300 hp, we are leaving good enough alone for another day. Also the car was designed to be abe to replace turbo to larger ones if we want with relative ease but we don't think the block can handle it, however there maybe a solution to that!!
the event. Apparently I was only teched for 190. My gps showed 193. I'll post pic of it when I get back. Bottom line it took 350 extra hp to go from 173-193
It also took 150 hp extra to go from 185 to 193. I think it will take me another 200hp to hit 200mph. So about 1150-1200hp(crank ). A Ford GT with 1200hp will do 220 in the mile but its 1200 pounds lighter. The one variable we didn't explore was switching to drag slicks which may or may not be worth an extra 2-5mph for the mile.
My Turbos can sustain 30psi with the "sweet spot" at 26/27 but for now we are staying conservative on boost. n AFR, even though we believe this car has 1200-1300 hp, we are leaving good enough alone for another day. Also the car was designed to be abe to replace turbo to larger ones if we want with relative ease but we don't think the block can handle it, however there maybe a solution to that!!
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I'm typing from my phone. I met Marko who also brought his car today. Cool Guy n his girl n mine got along good which helped them pass the time. I did not run on Fri. I ran a couple of times only today because wait times were 2 + hours standing n line. The car boosts about 500rpm later than stock. Its tough too hook up with my falken 305s. Rotoras were amazing but rotors already showing heat cracks even though they just got put on. Saw a flashed clk63 do 161mph all day. Porsche panamera tt (flashed) did 165. Marko did 185 mph. I did 190 on 21psi @ 11AFR (playing it safe ). We went to 23 (11AFR) n I could not hook even n 3rd. When I pulled up to get my speed they would not give it to me n said if I do it again I will be escorted out of
the event. Apparently I was only teched for 190. My gps showed 193. I'll post pic of it when I get back. Bottom line it took 350 extra hp to go from 173-193
It also took 150 hp extra to go from 185 to 193. I think it will take me another 200hp to hit 200mph. So about 1150-1200hp(crank ). A Ford GT with 1200hp will do 220 in the mile but its 1200 pounds lighter. The one variable we didn't explore was switching to drag slicks which may or may not be worth an extra 2-5mph for the mile.
My Turbos can sustain 30psi with the "sweet spot" at 26/27 but for now we are staying conservative on boost. n AFR, even though we believe this car has 1200-1300 hp, we are leaving good enough alone for another day. Also the car was designed to be abe to replace turbo to larger ones if we want with relative ease but we don't think the block can handle it, however there maybe a solution to that!!
the event. Apparently I was only teched for 190. My gps showed 193. I'll post pic of it when I get back. Bottom line it took 350 extra hp to go from 173-193
It also took 150 hp extra to go from 185 to 193. I think it will take me another 200hp to hit 200mph. So about 1150-1200hp(crank ). A Ford GT with 1200hp will do 220 in the mile but its 1200 pounds lighter. The one variable we didn't explore was switching to drag slicks which may or may not be worth an extra 2-5mph for the mile.
My Turbos can sustain 30psi with the "sweet spot" at 26/27 but for now we are staying conservative on boost. n AFR, even though we believe this car has 1200-1300 hp, we are leaving good enough alone for another day. Also the car was designed to be abe to replace turbo to larger ones if we want with relative ease but we don't think the block can handle it, however there maybe a solution to that!!
@ only 23 psi I def think smaller drag rads would give you few mph, but how small can you go w/those huge brakes? Good luck tamara I think you just may own the fastest 600/65 on the planet
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I'm typing from my phone. I met Marko who also brought his car today. Cool Guy n his girl n mine got along good which helped them pass the time. I did not run on Fri. I ran a couple of times only today because wait times were 2 + hours standing n line. The car boosts about 500rpm later than stock. Its tough too hook up with my falken 305s. Rotoras were amazing but rotors already showing heat cracks even though they just got put on. Saw a flashed clk63 do 161mph all day. Porsche panamera tt (flashed) did 165. Marko did 185 mph. I did 190 on 21psi @ 11AFR (playing it safe ). We went to 23 (11AFR) n I could not hook even n 3rd. When I pulled up to get my speed they would not give it to me n said if I do it again I will be escorted out of
the event. Apparently I was only teched for 190. My gps showed 193. I'll post pic of it when I get back. Bottom line it took 350 extra hp to go from 173-193
It also took 150 hp extra to go from 185 to 193. I think it will take me another 200hp to hit 200mph. So about 1150-1200hp(crank ). A Ford GT with 1200hp will do 220 in the mile but its 1200 pounds lighter. The one variable we didn't explore was switching to drag slicks which may or may not be worth an extra 2-5mph for the mile.
My Turbos can sustain 30psi with the "sweet spot" at 26/27 but for now we are staying conservative on boost. n AFR, even though we believe this car has 1200-1300 hp, we are leaving good enough alone for another day. Also the car was designed to be abe to replace turbo to larger ones if we want with relative ease but we don't think the block can handle it, however there maybe a solution to that!!
the event. Apparently I was only teched for 190. My gps showed 193. I'll post pic of it when I get back. Bottom line it took 350 extra hp to go from 173-193
It also took 150 hp extra to go from 185 to 193. I think it will take me another 200hp to hit 200mph. So about 1150-1200hp(crank ). A Ford GT with 1200hp will do 220 in the mile but its 1200 pounds lighter. The one variable we didn't explore was switching to drag slicks which may or may not be worth an extra 2-5mph for the mile.
My Turbos can sustain 30psi with the "sweet spot" at 26/27 but for now we are staying conservative on boost. n AFR, even though we believe this car has 1200-1300 hp, we are leaving good enough alone for another day. Also the car was designed to be abe to replace turbo to larger ones if we want with relative ease but we don't think the block can handle it, however there maybe a solution to that!!
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Am I missing out on something here..?
Are you saying that a flashed (that means only ECU, right..?) did 161mph on the quarter mile..??!
And that a Panamera (also only flashed) did 165mph..??
On the quarter mile..?! Sounds incredibly fast to me!!
Have I really got this right..?
And in that case, at what times? I don't see any times written there...
Are you saying that a flashed (that means only ECU, right..?) did 161mph on the quarter mile..??!
And that a Panamera (also only flashed) did 165mph..??
On the quarter mile..?! Sounds incredibly fast to me!!
Have I really got this right..?
And in that case, at what times? I don't see any times written there...
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Am I missing out on something here..?
Are you saying that a flashed (that means only ECU, right..?) did 161mph on the quarter mile..??!
And that a Panamera (also only flashed) did 165mph..??
On the quarter mile..?! Sounds incredibly fast to me!!
Have I really got this right..?
And in that case, at what times? I don't see any times written there...
Are you saying that a flashed (that means only ECU, right..?) did 161mph on the quarter mile..??!
And that a Panamera (also only flashed) did 165mph..??
On the quarter mile..?! Sounds incredibly fast to me!!
Have I really got this right..?
And in that case, at what times? I don't see any times written there...
Tom
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198 mph
Last night we dialed up boost a little n leaned her out a little. I blasted thru the 1/3 mile this morning for 1 last run n suddenly lost power. I had to leave to get my son to Houston for a flight n told marcin to just take the car back. 2 hours later while on the road, marcin found the problem . The tcu reared its ugly head n pulled boost n timing. Marcin reset boost down, back to 23 but left the leaner afr alone. I gave the ok for Marco to run it one last time...he did....officials immediately asked him to leave n yanked his tech sticker off the window. Final speed was 197.8 mph. Estimated whp on a dynodynamics...probably 780-800...you do the math on a dynojet conversion.
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Last night we dialed up boost a little n leaned her out a little. I blasted thru the 1/3 mile this morning for 1 last run n suddenly lost power. I had to leave to get my son to Houston for a flight n told marcin to just take the car back. 2 hours later while on the road, marcin found the problem . The tcu reared its ugly head n pulled boost n timing. Marcin reset boost down, back to 23 but left the leaner afr alone. I gave the ok for Marco to run it one last time...he did....officials immediately asked him to leave n yanked his tech sticker off the window. Final speed was 197.8 mph. Estimated whp on a dynodynamics...probably 780-800...you do the math on a dynojet conversion.
Anyway...glad to see your car put up a monster speed! For a little perspective, Road & Track tested a bunch of supercars a few years back: Bugatti Veyron did 204.4mph, a McLaren SLR did 181.2mph and a Ruf RT12 did 187.5mph. Some pretty impressive company!
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congrats !! now thats how you build a car! no 2 yr build 3 yrs getting it right then swapping mechanics a dozen times! 1 builder on schedule and fantastic results. you rule !
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Last night we dialed up boost a little n leaned her out a little. I blasted thru the 1/3 mile this morning for 1 last run n suddenly lost power. I had to leave to get my son to Houston for a flight n told marcin to just take the car back. 2 hours later while on the road, marcin found the problem . The tcu reared its ugly head n pulled boost n timing. Marcin reset boost down, back to 23 but left the leaner afr alone. I gave the ok for Marco to run it one last time...he did....officials immediately asked him to leave n yanked his tech sticker off the window. Final speed was 197.8 mph. Estimated whp on a dynodynamics...probably 780-800...you do the math on a dynojet conversion.
So close to 200mph. +1
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You are the man!! Those speeds are tremendous!! I can't even put it in words the accomplishment! I will reap the benefits as my car is up next for completion of project. Congratulations on this beast!
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Last night we dialed up boost a little n leaned her out a little. I blasted thru the 1/3 mile this morning for 1 last run n suddenly lost power. I had to leave to get my son to Houston for a flight n told marcin to just take the car back. 2 hours later while on the road, marcin found the problem . The tcu reared its ugly head n pulled boost n timing. Marcin reset boost down, back to 23 but left the leaner afr alone. I gave the ok for Marco to run it one last time...he did....officials immediately asked him to leave n yanked his tech sticker off the window. Final speed was 197.8 mph. Estimated whp on a dynodynamics...probably 780-800...you do the math on a dynojet conversion.
Great effort with incredible results!
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Congrats on an incredible build and AMAZING results.
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Yep cage required and other stuff above 190mph.
Nice build and great mph out at the Texas mile. It is a very humbling event when you think you have a fast car.
Still amazing that you are right around 1000rwhp in that car.
An to go faster you will need more power.
To give you an idea for a car with similar aerodynamics. A camaro out there went 201 with 1050rwhp, went 215 at 1350rwhp.
Great job and hope to see ya back in October with maybe a bolt in cage in your car.
Nice build and great mph out at the Texas mile. It is a very humbling event when you think you have a fast car.
Still amazing that you are right around 1000rwhp in that car.
An to go faster you will need more power.
To give you an idea for a car with similar aerodynamics. A camaro out there went 201 with 1050rwhp, went 215 at 1350rwhp.
Great job and hope to see ya back in October with maybe a bolt in cage in your car.
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By the way Marco nailed 188 today in his own car.
As for a cage, I will never put a cage in car like that. Too keep a long story short, the car will be teched for 190+ in October. Its already handled.
I also want to mention that I PERSONALLY approached in the last year All the big tuners (hennessy, heffner, renntech, Ugr, etc...) and non wanted the project. Vrp said yes but that ended up mostly a failure and finally Marcin (SpeedDriven). Marcin is one of those rare humble geniuses that's also sincere and honest. I have used tuners for years and never before gave them a compliment because they did what is expected. ...nothing special. ...but SPEEDDRIVEN is in a class of their own.
As for a cage, I will never put a cage in car like that. Too keep a long story short, the car will be teched for 190+ in October. Its already handled.
I also want to mention that I PERSONALLY approached in the last year All the big tuners (hennessy, heffner, renntech, Ugr, etc...) and non wanted the project. Vrp said yes but that ended up mostly a failure and finally Marcin (SpeedDriven). Marcin is one of those rare humble geniuses that's also sincere and honest. I have used tuners for years and never before gave them a compliment because they did what is expected. ...nothing special. ...but SPEEDDRIVEN is in a class of their own.
