SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Would Love Some Feedback on This....
10-25-2011, 02:47 PM
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Would Love Some Feedback on This....
10-25-2011, 03:46 PM
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all v12s tt burn oil.
some more, some less.
mb stance on this is 1 quart or less per 1000 miles is acceptable.
anybody that tells you any different has never seen the "change oil table" in sds on a few v12 tt cars
some more, some less.
mb stance on this is 1 quart or less per 1000 miles is acceptable.
anybody that tells you any different has never seen the "change oil table" in sds on a few v12 tt cars
10-25-2011, 04:18 PM
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My car has never needed a drop of oil between 5K mile changes. Saw you post on the other thread...
This would have my concern. These cars should not blow white smoke.....
You know, I get completely different opinions on this subject.
Some people and even MB technicians, say it's normal to burn 1 quart per
2-3k miles.
Others, even other MB technicians, say completely the opposite, in that, no way should a "newer" MB V12TT burn any oil whatsoever.
In my case, when I get on the throttle hard, I see a pretty big plume of white smoke kick up behind the car. This is everytime I blast the throttle.
I do not abuse the car in any way, but I do drive hard on the throttle.
I am not sure what to think.....But maybe my upcoming service B will reveal more details when I talk to the technicians about my symptoms....
Anyone else, please chime in with opinions or ideas.....Thanks.
-Chris
Some people and even MB technicians, say it's normal to burn 1 quart per
2-3k miles.
Others, even other MB technicians, say completely the opposite, in that, no way should a "newer" MB V12TT burn any oil whatsoever.
In my case, when I get on the throttle hard, I see a pretty big plume of white smoke kick up behind the car. This is everytime I blast the throttle.
I do not abuse the car in any way, but I do drive hard on the throttle.
I am not sure what to think.....But maybe my upcoming service B will reveal more details when I talk to the technicians about my symptoms....
Anyone else, please chime in with opinions or ideas.....Thanks.
-Chris
This would have my concern. These cars should not blow white smoke.....
10-25-2011, 04:31 PM
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Same here, modded to hell n' back NEVER needed an extra drop of oil between changes (change every 3k-4k too) white smoke? only present @ Indian Casino parking lots
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10-25-2011, 04:54 PM
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drive 10k miles between changes and you will be prompted - i guarantee you.
10-25-2011, 04:54 PM
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Interesting....I did just happen to see an SL65 just a few weeks ago jump on it at a stop light. It did leave a definate light blue haze in it wake from the exhaust.
Clearly using a slight bit of oil.
Clearly using a slight bit of oil.
10-25-2011, 05:15 PM
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all turbo cars especially when hot will use a bit of oil...
oil always seeps by the turbo seals (both ends of the turbo) on rapid acceleration (it gets drawn into the intake and exhaust tract)... and seeps out of the intake tract under light acceleration as the low pressure is not sealing the cold side seal...
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10-25-2011, 05:35 PM
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2 I'm getting it changed every 4k-5k very small price to pay to keep a $50k motor happy. & lastly you state these motors burn thru a quart every 1000 miles? I & others don't see it Why are you on this "Change your oil LESS" Info-Mercial style campaign wtf??? I don't care if you ever change your oil again, but PLEASE stop spreading the dis-information on following MB bullsh*t guidelines they ALSO ADVOCATED for the last couple decades to NEVER CHANGE Transmission fluid/oil they are sealed from factory to last 100k
Then early last yr thru the on going Economy slump, my Service advisor starts pushing Tranny flush etc to ALL customers (even friend w/15k 1 yr old S550) but before IE 6-7 yrs ago (my previous S430 round 50k @ time) I asked for Tranny Flush/Replace all fluids they said "Absolutely NOT! these MB's are set to run trouble FREE sealed from factory, ZERO need to change Trans-Fluid" Same S/A admitted to me recently, they're doing this solely due to Economic slump, & to drum up business...
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10-25-2011, 06:07 PM
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I don't want to stretch it. I trust the people that made that engine to tell me when the oil change is due if they say 10k miles is ok- than I am inclined to believe them...
if they say 10k miles is ok- than I am inclined to believe them...
10-26-2011, 10:28 AM
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I'm with Sean on this one. If MB states that 1qt per 1000 miles is normal, that would mean the crank case would be empty at the 10K mile change interval.
But if his car is blowing white smoke, that could mean coolant in the combustion chamber. It is normal for turbo cars to blow a tiny bit of black smoke at WOT, for the reasons mentioned above, but white/blue smoke is never good.
Vabene, you need to get an oil sample out to Blackstone Labs ASAP. They'll send you a free sample kit, and the cost of analysis is $25. I get it done EVERY oil change, just so I can keep an eye on my internals.
Here's the last sample done on the SL600. Everybody should be doing this....
But if his car is blowing white smoke, that could mean coolant in the combustion chamber. It is normal for turbo cars to blow a tiny bit of black smoke at WOT, for the reasons mentioned above, but white/blue smoke is never good.
Vabene, you need to get an oil sample out to Blackstone Labs ASAP. They'll send you a free sample kit, and the cost of analysis is $25. I get it done EVERY oil change, just so I can keep an eye on my internals.
Here's the last sample done on the SL600. Everybody should be doing this....
10-27-2011, 08:43 PM
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Thanks for everyone's feedback. I truely appreciate the insight.
Clayton, I have ordered the kit from Blackstone and will post back my report. My car is also going for a service B to my performance shop in NJ. I will be getting a compression test and exhaust gas test to see whats going on.
I also should be changing my oil more often. I think it's been more than 5k miles, but that was my oversight.
You can see the puff of smoke in that vid I posted in the tech talk M275 V12 forum. It occurs right when I hit the gas hard and it's a pretty big puff of smoke.
Take a look...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTi5HOJHtDg
It's far away, I know, but look around the 33 second mark for the plume.....
In addition, it only happens on the initial hit of the throttle, not on any subsequent blast during the same drive.
-Chris
Clayton, I have ordered the kit from Blackstone and will post back my report. My car is also going for a service B to my performance shop in NJ. I will be getting a compression test and exhaust gas test to see whats going on.
I also should be changing my oil more often. I think it's been more than 5k miles, but that was my oversight.
You can see the puff of smoke in that vid I posted in the tech talk M275 V12 forum. It occurs right when I hit the gas hard and it's a pretty big puff of smoke.
Take a look...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTi5HOJHtDg
It's far away, I know, but look around the 33 second mark for the plume.....
In addition, it only happens on the initial hit of the throttle, not on any subsequent blast during the same drive.
-Chris
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10-28-2011, 10:46 AM
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You know, when I first saw that video before I knew about this issue, I thought it was tire smoke. 
I do rolling burnouts in my car all the time. 
Hopefully it's nothing major. The good news is, it only does it for a moment at WOT. Does it only do it under load? Or if you were to rev it in park, does it also do it? Also, what does coolant level look like? And would you say the smoke is completely white, or has a blueish tint to it?
I do rolling burnouts in my car all the time. Hopefully it's nothing major. The good news is, it only does it for a moment at WOT. Does it only do it under load? Or if you were to rev it in park, does it also do it? Also, what does coolant level look like? And would you say the smoke is completely white, or has a blueish tint to it?
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