SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: headers
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ok, i need a solution on my 03 sl55. i am leaning towards the kleemann's for the $1000 price tag, but, i can't help but to still be drawn to the mbh long tubes. got a decent price quote from mbh (compared to retail) but just can't make up my mind. to make them myself would still be atleast $500 in parts and tons of time under car and stuffed under the hood.
anyone chime in that has either or maybe even had both. i know mbh is the winning choice, but at nearly triple the cost, is it worth the few extra hp?
i plan to run nitrous also, so losing a couple hp on headers isn't a huge deal, but, the mbh's are pretty bad ***!
anyone selling a used set? been scouring ebay and the classified since the second i bought the car, but nothing has come up.
anyone chime in that has either or maybe even had both. i know mbh is the winning choice, but at nearly triple the cost, is it worth the few extra hp?
i plan to run nitrous also, so losing a couple hp on headers isn't a huge deal, but, the mbh's are pretty bad ***!
anyone selling a used set? been scouring ebay and the classified since the second i bought the car, but nothing has come up.
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Thank you for your interest in our headers. We build every header to be the last header you will ever need to buy. Our warranty is second to none in the entire header industry. Not to mention a huge gains in power
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it would pretty much be next to impossible to weld the header outside if our jig. Our headers are welding at the joints in a step by step process. meaning some primaries needed to be welding before you can even advance to welding the next one. Before you know it you wont be able to access some welding areas. Then it will pull like crazy if the welding is done outside of the jig. Our jigs have fences and locks build into them to prevent this from happening. The tight tolerances of the Mercedes can make the smallest oversight become a huge headache.
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there was a group buy that ended already this year that was for 1670 shipped for a set o the mbh headers, If another one came up I would def be in but I cant justify around 3k for that small of a increase in hp, specially since I have seen sl55s selling for less than 25k these days
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oh and i forgot to mention most people pay in the area of 500-1000 just for the labor to install these, as for our sl's the primary cats have to be cut off and re-welded and then o course ecu configured so no CEL , just not worth it for the price+ labor + hassle
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maybe I should look into a kleeman group by as I know another person in for a set of headers also, so right off the bat it sounds like we have 3 for sure without advertisement. I this we could easily get 5 sets, ill call cory in the morning and see what he can do about pricing
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ok, i need a solution on my 03 sl55. i am leaning towards the kleemann's for the $1000 price tag, but, i can't help but to still be drawn to the mbh long tubes. got a decent price quote from mbh (compared to retail) but just can't make up my mind. to make them myself would still be atleast $500 in parts and tons of time under car and stuffed under the hood.
anyone chime in that has either or maybe even had both. i know mbh is the winning choice, but at nearly triple the cost, is it worth the few extra hp?
i plan to run nitrous also, so losing a couple hp on headers isn't a huge deal, but, the mbh's are pretty bad ***!
anyone selling a used set? been scouring ebay and the classified since the second i bought the car, but nothing has come up.
anyone chime in that has either or maybe even had both. i know mbh is the winning choice, but at nearly triple the cost, is it worth the few extra hp?
i plan to run nitrous also, so losing a couple hp on headers isn't a huge deal, but, the mbh's are pretty bad ***!
anyone selling a used set? been scouring ebay and the classified since the second i bought the car, but nothing has come up.
Also; saw a flange where all the holes for the bolts where "sliced" open .... maybe for avoiding cracks? No; cracks should only appear in connection with bad welding or bad treatment of the steel.Then theres the sport catalysts - where to find a steel sports 200 cat fitting for a SL55AMG? ....
Kleemann's for 1000$ ? .... this must be whiteout downpipes and cats? I live in the wrong country ... even Kleeman's is Danish (and so am I), then you will at least have to pay 2.200$ just for the headers ....... a 1000$ then I will be in!
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I had the Kleemans, have since made the switch to MBH. Really cant compare the two (quality and design). I have yet to dyno tune after install, but I'm willing to bet the MBH headers will make substantially more HP upstairs.
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I will defiantly make a set myself .... but if so .... in what kind of material? I see most build the pipe itself in 304 and the flange somebody makes it in 321 ........ I would make it all - both flange and pipes in 316L ..... but what do I know? Also; saw a flange where all the holes for the bolts where "sliced" open .... maybe for avoiding cracks? No; cracks should only appear in connection with bad welding or bad treatment of the steel.
Then theres the sport catalysts - where to find a steel sports 200 cat fitting for a SL55AMG? ....
Kleemann's for 1000$ ? .... this must be whiteout downpipes and cats? I live in the wrong country ... even Kleeman's is Danish (and so am I), then you will at least have to pay 2.200$ just for the headers ....... a 1000$ then I will be in!
Also; saw a flange where all the holes for the bolts where "sliced" open .... maybe for avoiding cracks? No; cracks should only appear in connection with bad welding or bad treatment of the steel.Then theres the sport catalysts - where to find a steel sports 200 cat fitting for a SL55AMG? ....
Kleemann's for 1000$ ? .... this must be whiteout downpipes and cats? I live in the wrong country ... even Kleeman's is Danish (and so am I), then you will at least have to pay 2.200$ just for the headers ....... a 1000$ then I will be in!
check with eurocharged, they gave me a price pretty close to that over the phone. the shipping probably wouldn't be bad either.
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Which move point A to point B.
I am looking for header as well. it would be nice if i can jump in to MBH with 1670, if they gonna give that opportunity once again. Evosport Cooling upgrade, MBH LT header, K&N filter and a little bit of tunning from Eurocharged with remote plug would be a perfect match for me!
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where did you find flanges? i personally would prefer a one piece, but, separate ones could be dealt with. with my other enormous project sitting next to the sl and being jealous of all the attention the sl is getting, i am finding it hard to justify all the time it would take to build the headers. if kleemanns can be had for $1k, it makes it even harder to justify.
check with eurocharged, they gave me a price pretty close to that over the phone. the shipping probably wouldn't be bad either.
check with eurocharged, they gave me a price pretty close to that over the phone. the shipping probably wouldn't be bad either.
I don't have any flange yet but it will not be a problem for me to get hold on since it's in my trade. The question is what kind of material to chose? I'm putting my money on stainless steel 316L all the way ..... that will say flange and pipe .... but if anybody have any remarks on this please let me know.
Also; to make it easier for me I will buy a set of longer headers to get the right set-up on the piping (to save time!) ...... have contacted Eurocharged as you suggested - will love to see the welding inside of those Kleemanns..................(I have access to a minicam for this) .... and with confidence I will give it a serious try to improve this by building new headers from scratch. (for starters it should be able to skip a welding or two on the piping)
Pricing of new headers at http://shop.kleemann.dk/shop/hiflow-...ders-336p.html
Maybe I should consider a build-thread?
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Damn guys, I am very jealous. I'm running EvoSport shorties, 178 pulley (RT), 80mm TB, HE + pump and an EC dyno tune.
If I could do it all over again, I would start with the smaller SC pulley, MBH LTs and run the car down to Jake at EC for a dyno tune since i am only a couple hours from Chicago.
If I could do it all over again, I would start with the smaller SC pulley, MBH LTs and run the car down to Jake at EC for a dyno tune since i am only a couple hours from Chicago.
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Well - since time is precious, then is important you chose carefully where you use it and what you use it on ...... but a SL55AMG is not a bad choice thou .....
I don't have any flange yet but it will not be a problem for me to get hold on since it's in my trade. The question is what kind of material to chose? I'm putting my money on stainless steel 316L all the way ..... that will say flange and pipe .... but if anybody have any remarks on this please let me know.
Also; to make it easier for me I will buy a set of longer headers to get the right set-up on the piping (to save time!) ...... have contacted Eurocharged as you suggested - will love to see the welding inside of those Kleemanns..................(I have access to a minicam for this) .... and with confidence I will give it a serious try to improve this by building new headers from scratch. (for starters it should be able to skip a welding or two on the piping)
Pricing of new headers at http://shop.kleemann.dk/shop/hiflow-...ders-336p.html
Maybe I should consider a build-thread?
I don't have any flange yet but it will not be a problem for me to get hold on since it's in my trade. The question is what kind of material to chose? I'm putting my money on stainless steel 316L all the way ..... that will say flange and pipe .... but if anybody have any remarks on this please let me know.
Also; to make it easier for me I will buy a set of longer headers to get the right set-up on the piping (to save time!) ...... have contacted Eurocharged as you suggested - will love to see the welding inside of those Kleemanns..................(I have access to a minicam for this) .... and with confidence I will give it a serious try to improve this by building new headers from scratch. (for starters it should be able to skip a welding or two on the piping)
Pricing of new headers at http://shop.kleemann.dk/shop/hiflow-...ders-336p.html
Maybe I should consider a build-thread?
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Which move point A to point B.
so is there will be another group buy on MBH? btw for the cooling upgrade, shall i just go with evosport package or shall i just buy Johson pump and HE from eurocharged? which one did you recommended guys?
P.S sorry about the wrong topic. =(
P.S sorry about the wrong topic. =(
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I know a lot of E55 guys love their EC HEs. The newer 010 Bosch pump is supposed to be very good. You might check it out as well.
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I have send two ones few days ago and asked an offer SL600 downpipes with cats or without cats?
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