SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: SL63 AMG vs Yamaha R1
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Amg power and r1 high speed draaaaag 
Most stock bikes above 200km are not very quick to gain more speed (compared to how they get up and go at lower speeds).
Bikes are very aerodynamically dirty. If you have a powerful car you can usually reel them in at high speeds... Of course things like busas, zx14 and the like are tough to catch at any speed...
Most stock bikes above 200km are not very quick to gain more speed (compared to how they get up and go at lower speeds).
Bikes are very aerodynamically dirty. If you have a powerful car you can usually reel them in at high speeds... Of course things like busas, zx14 and the like are tough to catch at any speed...
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If you think the bike has drag at high speed, try putting your hand out of the window in the SL 63. I would love to believe this, I have one, SL63 that is, but it leaves the bike behind too easily, and mine is re mapped.
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Above 250 KM/H I think it's realistic that they are nearly equal. Maybe little advantage for the SL63 if it is re-mapped. That's o.k.
I think the SL63 is re-mapped, because the R1 is limited at 299 KM/H and the SL keeps on pulling away at the end.
But without doubt. The drivers are crazy, not to say a little bit stupid to play with their lifes or the life of other ones. Imagine a tractor or something like this comes out of a side road. NO chance to react.
We in Germany also like Highspeed Driving 300+ KM/H very much. But only on the Autobahn with no cars coming from the front. And for me only in the early Sunday morning with absolutely no traffic on the street.
I think the SL63 is re-mapped, because the R1 is limited at 299 KM/H and the SL keeps on pulling away at the end.
But without doubt. The drivers are crazy, not to say a little bit stupid to play with their lifes or the life of other ones. Imagine a tractor or something like this comes out of a side road. NO chance to react.
We in Germany also like Highspeed Driving 300+ KM/H very much. But only on the Autobahn with no cars coming from the front. And for me only in the early Sunday morning with absolutely no traffic on the street.
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SL 63 W/B AMG , S600,C220
It doesn't matter whether you are doing 180, 150, 120 or even 100 you will
still die if someone isn't paying attention, why do we buy these cars if
your not going to break the speed limit.
Any way if this was from the lights the R1 with it's 0-100 of 5 seconds would
leave the SL standing.
still die if someone isn't paying attention, why do we buy these cars if
your not going to break the speed limit.
Any way if this was from the lights the R1 with it's 0-100 of 5 seconds would
leave the SL standing.
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Above 250 KM/H I think it's realistic that they are nearly equal. Maybe little advantage for the SL63 if it is re-mapped. That's o.k.
I think the SL63 is re-mapped, because the R1 is limited at 299 KM/H and the SL keeps on pulling away at the end.
But without doubt. The drivers are crazy, not to say a little bit stupid to play with their lifes or the life of other ones. Imagine a tractor or something like this comes out of a side road. NO chance to react.
We in Germany also like Highspeed Driving 300+ KM/H very much. But only on the Autobahn with no cars coming from the front. And for me only in the early Sunday morning with absolutely no traffic on the street.
I think the SL63 is re-mapped, because the R1 is limited at 299 KM/H and the SL keeps on pulling away at the end.
But without doubt. The drivers are crazy, not to say a little bit stupid to play with their lifes or the life of other ones. Imagine a tractor or something like this comes out of a side road. NO chance to react.
We in Germany also like Highspeed Driving 300+ KM/H very much. But only on the Autobahn with no cars coming from the front. And for me only in the early Sunday morning with absolutely no traffic on the street.
Germany says if you think your safe on a Autobahn read about some of the
horrific crashes caused by excessive speed on them.
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Believe me, I know the German Autobahn. And this is not a country road like in the video... Tractors are not allowed to drive on the Autobahn.
I also know when you can drive fast and when better not.
Of course a little risk is always there.
I have fun with my car at 340+ KM/H, but this does not mean that I don't use my brain.
But to each its own...
I also know when you can drive fast and when better not.
Of course a little risk is always there.
I have fun with my car at 340+ KM/H, but this does not mean that I don't use my brain.
But to each its own...
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Believe me, I know the German Autobahn. And this is not a country road like in the video... Tractors are not allowed to drive on the Autobahn.
I also know when you can drive fast and when better not.
Of course a little risk is always there.
I have fun with my car at 340+ KM/H, but this does not mean that I don't use my brain.
But to each its own...
I also know when you can drive fast and when better not.
Of course a little risk is always there.
I have fun with my car at 340+ KM/H, but this does not mean that I don't use my brain.
But to each its own...
out
Even Sebastian Vettel wouldn't , maybe in his F1 car but not on the autobahn
at 340+
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Yes of course. Something can always happen at speeds above 300 KM/H...
To minimize the risk for a tire blow up, I did a lot of research for special rated tires, which are capable of these speeds with special tire-pressure.
To minimize the risk for a tire blow up, I did a lot of research for special rated tires, which are capable of these speeds with special tire-pressure.
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I ended up with Pirelli and drive with 3,5 bar (cold) for Highspeed runs (51psi).
For detailed information I would recommend to get in contact with the tire companies for your specific car.
For detailed information I would recommend to get in contact with the tire companies for your specific car.
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No that's not correct.
I have a written approval from Pirelli-Headquarter, that I must not go under 3,5 bar with my specific car at speeds above 186 MPH.
By the way AMG recommends already 3,3 Bar on all tires (Bridgestone,Conti) up to 300 KM/H with AMG-Performance Packagefor German SL65-Cars (written in the filler cap and manual). This is nearly the same.
I have a written approval from Pirelli-Headquarter, that I must not go under 3,5 bar with my specific car at speeds above 186 MPH.
By the way AMG recommends already 3,3 Bar on all tires (Bridgestone,Conti) up to 300 KM/H with AMG-Performance Packagefor German SL65-Cars (written in the filler cap and manual). This is nearly the same.
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No that's not correct.
I have a written approval from Pirelli-Headquarter, that I must not go under 3,5 bar with my specific car at speeds above 186 MPH.
By the way AMG recommends already 3,3 Bar on all tires (Bridgestone,Conti) up to 300 KM/H with AMG-Performance Packagefor German SL65-Cars (written in the filler cap and manual). This is nearly the same.
I have a written approval from Pirelli-Headquarter, that I must not go under 3,5 bar with my specific car at speeds above 186 MPH.
By the way AMG recommends already 3,3 Bar on all tires (Bridgestone,Conti) up to 300 KM/H with AMG-Performance Packagefor German SL65-Cars (written in the filler cap and manual). This is nearly the same.
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The problem with such a heavy car like the SL is, if you go below the recommendation of the tire pressure, the tire can heat up too much at sustained higher speeds.
In the worst case this could lead the cap of the tire to peel away from the main tire construction.
I think there is also a safe margin from the tire makers, but over 186 MPH / 300 KM/H I do everything possible to be on the safe side...
For normal driving 3,5 bar (51psi) in my opinion is too much, because you loose quite a lot of grip at low speeds and the riding also gets significantly stiffer.
In the worst case this could lead the cap of the tire to peel away from the main tire construction.
I think there is also a safe margin from the tire makers, but over 186 MPH / 300 KM/H I do everything possible to be on the safe side...
For normal driving 3,5 bar (51psi) in my opinion is too much, because you loose quite a lot of grip at low speeds and the riding also gets significantly stiffer.
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I don't think the R1 is limited to 299 (my 04 isn't). The '12 S1000RR I rode on the autobahn wouldn't indicate > 299 even though it would keep pulling and tach would keep climbing. You can see that in this vid too. A modern liter bike like an R1 should be able to do 190-ish stock. I'd guess the SL is remapped anyway since a liter bike should pull pretty hard on a stock one. A veyron has trouble keeping up with a liter bike up until 250 km/h
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'15 T&C & '14 SL63
The R1 is not limited to 299kph, but maybe the speedo is?
If you look you can see it pegs the speedo @299 @13000 rpm, and still has another 1000rpm to redline. Which he then proceeds to use.
So figure 299/13000*14000 = 322kph
If you look you can see it pegs the speedo @299 @13000 rpm, and still has another 1000rpm to redline. Which he then proceeds to use.
So figure 299/13000*14000 = 322kph
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Yes,indeed. I looked at the Video closely again.
At 0:46 sec. the speedo shows 299 KM/H with 13.000 RPM. And then speedo stays at 299 and RPM is still climbing to approx. 13.500 RPM.
Maybe at 13.500 RPM is the Rev Limiter? But I don't think there is too much speed left.
Also we must keep in mind this is not GPS-Data, normally speedo always shows a little more.
But still impressive.
At 0:46 sec. the speedo shows 299 KM/H with 13.000 RPM. And then speedo stays at 299 and RPM is still climbing to approx. 13.500 RPM.
Maybe at 13.500 RPM is the Rev Limiter? But I don't think there is too much speed left.
Also we must keep in mind this is not GPS-Data, normally speedo always shows a little more.
But still impressive.
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If you look a bit closer at the Beginning I think it is R230 SL63 with N/A or maybe SL65 after 2008 (because of rear diffuser). If the owner did some Bodywork on the car also SL55 is possible...
However, if this is SL63 (like the title says) N/A (tuned?) it is really impressive, because the SL65 TwinTurbo (tuned) would be even quite a lot faster up top...
However, if this is SL63 (like the title says) N/A (tuned?) it is really impressive, because the SL65 TwinTurbo (tuned) would be even quite a lot faster up top...
