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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 03:58 PM
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Question star diagnostic errors? pics attached

so i picked up an SDS for my 03 SL55, and was giving the program a "test drive".

i ran a quick check, and this is the list it came up with. does anything appear unusual, or i should be concerned about??
Attached Thumbnails star diagnostic errors? pics attached-sds-1.jpg   star diagnostic errors? pics attached-sds-2.jpg   star diagnostic errors? pics attached-sds-3.jpg  
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all lower case f are stored but not current all upper case F are current fault codes.
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all lower case f are stored but not current all upper case F are current fault codes.
ahhh, so all those 'f' was previous codes, that had been corrected sometime in the past? if so, can they be cleared?

what does the 'I' and check symbol represent?
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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yes you can clear them.

i = communication issues with that module
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yes you can clear them.

i = communication issues with that module
hummmm, communication issues. is this normal to see on most SDS programs?
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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you can can get into each module from the control units menu
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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Since it's your first time scanning it, I'd just clear the whole list of faults and start fresh. Drive it for a week and rescan.
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Since it's your first time scanning it, I'd just clear the whole list of faults and start fresh. Drive it for a week and rescan.
i cleared out all previous faults, and re-ran the check. everything was showing good. i will run another check in about a week or two, and see if i develop any new faults.

i was also about to perform the fan suction modification to +10 Celsius. thought about lowering it via SDS, but im going to hold off for now. i do not want to throw out my alignment, and have inner tire wear.

next step is to try and figure out where the octane settings are? if you know, mind shooting me a PM with those steps

thanks for the help/advice guys.
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Beware of lowering the car using the SDS, it will put a big stress on the ABC System, I suggest you buy lowering links
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Beware of lowering the car using the SDS, it will put a big stress on the ABC System, I suggest you buy lowering links
Ok you statement does not make any sense. I am not even going to try to argue with you.

manipulate the voltages physically or via SW has the same end result.
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 12:33 PM
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@shardul, I'm just telling him what I've been told by my workshop, he said preferably lowering should be either using an electric lowering module, or Lowering links. And he said lowering using the SDS will put stress on the ABC system.

There's no need to argue anyway, we are all here to share our points, and help each other.
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Originally Posted by CHADisBAD
i cleared out all previous faults, and re-ran the check. everything was showing good. i will run another check in about a week or two, and see if i develop any new faults.

i was also about to perform the fan suction modification to +10 Celsius. thought about lowering it via SDS, but im going to hold off for now. i do not want to throw out my alignment, and have inner tire wear.

next step is to try and figure out where the octane settings are? if you know, mind shooting me a PM with those steps

thanks for the help/advice guys.

My ECU is tuned by Eurocharged, so I've never had to worry about the octane maps. Honestly, for the insane low prices Eurocharged's tunes are now, there's really no reason not just have them tune it, and call it a day.

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@shardul, I'm just telling him what I've been told by my workshop, he said preferably lowering should be either using an electric lowering module, or Lowering links. And he said lowering using the SDS will put stress on the ABC system.

There's no need to argue anyway, we are all here to share our points, and help each other.

The same physical stress to the suspension system will be the same, regardless of method of lowering. I'd recommend links, for the ease on wallet vs. the pricier lowering module. If you're someone that likes to fiddle with ride height all the time, then the module is your best bet.

Airmatic cars, SDS all the way. ABC suspension, the less you disturb that sleeping monster, the better, IMO.

BTW, my car is lowered via SDS, which didn't give it much of a drop. I added link on top of that, and I'm right were I want to be.

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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
BTW, my car is lowered via SDS, which didn't give it much of a drop. I added link on top of that, and I'm right were I want to be.
do you have any camber or toe issues, causing inner wear on the tires?

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Originally Posted by CHADisBAD
do you have any chamber or toe issues, causing inner wear on the tires? do you have any chamber adjustments>
Yes, on the camber issues. You lower these cars at all, and you're gonna chew the inner part of the tires. These cars don't allow for much in the way of camber adjustments. If you're not ready to replace tires every 8K-10K miles, stay at stock height.

Here's the ride height I'm at:

https://www.vossenwheels.com/CarGall...VSCV3-622.aspx
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When we first started lowering cars via the Star system, we used my '03 SL55. I want to say it's been lowered for around 9 years and there have been zero ABC issues.

I firmly believe that the secret to avoiding issues and prolonging the life of these components is changing the ABC fluid. I've had the car since new and have performed regular fluid changes and the car remains bullet proof!
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Originally Posted by IngenereAMG
When we first started lowering cars via the Star system, we used my '03 SL55. I want to say it's been lowered for around 9 years and there have been zero ABC issues.

I firmly believe that the secret to avoiding issues and prolonging the life of these components is changing the ABC fluid. I've had the car since new and have performed regular fluid changes and the car remains bullet proof!

^^^^^ THIS.

It's not something that you really think about until something bad happens. I've changed mine, zero ABC issues. Well, except for when one dyno shop put the rear straps OVER the ride height sensor arms and snapped em when they tightened her down. That was an oopsie, nothing related to a system failure.
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Well, except for when one dyno shop put the rear straps OVER the ride height sensor arms and snapped em when they tightened her down.
i have seen that happen so many times!!
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Originally Posted by CHADisBAD
what does the 'I' and check symbol represent?
It means the code for an "event" is stored in controller memory.

Be sure to post back with the details of where you purchased your SDS and what setup you have including whether or not you have a "development" version which provides access to non-standard menus.
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Originally Posted by CHADisBAD
so i picked up an SDS for my 03 SL55, and was giving the program a "test drive".

Where did you buy the SDS system? What comes with it?
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Originally Posted by Rod_84
It means the code for an "event" is stored in controller memory.

Be sure to post back with the details of where you purchased your SDS and what setup you have including whether or not you have a "development" version which provides access to non-standard menus.
Setup came with laptop, Multiplexer, serial to OBDII and RS232 cables. The software is version 7/2011 (2011-06-15) includes Xentry, EPC, WIS, etc.

I purchased the setup from a member on here a few weeks ago, that sold his E55.
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Originally Posted by CHADisBAD
next step is to try and figure out where the octane settings are? if you know, mind shooting me a PM with those steps
Why send a PM when the information can be shared with everyone? Send me a PM if you know.

Here's the path:
Control Units > Motor Electronics > Adaptations > Correction Programming > Ignition
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Originally Posted by Rod_84
Why send a PM when the information can be shared with everyone? Send me a PM if you know.

Here's the path:
Control Units > Motor Electronics > Adaptations > Correction Programming > Ignition
Thanks for that info. Not sure if I have development version, how would I check?
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Originally Posted by CHADisBAD
Not sure if I have development version, how would I check?
One of the first screens you see upon starting the software will be a screen warning that your SDS is a "Developer Kit". The attachment shows the exact text that appears on my SDS.
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Originally Posted by Rod_84
One of the first screens you see upon starting the software will be a screen warning that your SDS is a "Developer Kit". The attachment shows the exact text that appears on my SDS.
Rod... do you know what menu i need to go into, to stop the automatic volume adjustment, when speeding up and slowing down? i cannot stand it.
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