SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: SL65 AMG Forever
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SL65 AMG Forever
It's funny, everyone at some time wants a SL65, why I ask myself. Now I am back in a 65 I am happy again, owning the top SL also has nothing to
do with money, I have just changed an almost new SL63 for a 10 year old
SL65. I just love the shape, the interior everything, I have even gone off the
idea of fitting a wide body kit.
Here's to the SL65 an amazing car.
do with money, I have just changed an almost new SL63 for a 10 year old
SL65. I just love the shape, the interior everything, I have even gone off the
idea of fitting a wide body kit.
Here's to the SL65 an amazing car.
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Amen brother! I've had straight 4s and 6s, V6s and V8s (incl AMG)...and an AMG V12 (TT). There's absolutely no comparision mechanically. Moreover, my SL65 has been extremely reliable with very few mechanical issues (those I've had, have been more related to the retractable roof (although nothing major)).
Cruising with the top down, my pretty blonde girlfriend riding shotgun, and the Meisterschaft exhausts growling is what I live for. Eat your heart out BMW, Porsche, Vette, Aston Martin, Ferrari, etc. owners...there just isn't anything out there to match THE luxury 2-seat convertable of our era.
Oh, and chirping the rears at 80+ while pegged to your seat like a Shuttle Astronaut blasting off from Kennedy Space Center gives me something my girlfriend really appreciates! As an ole buddy of mine would say, "makes me harder than chinese arithmetic!"
Enjoy!
Cruising with the top down, my pretty blonde girlfriend riding shotgun, and the Meisterschaft exhausts growling is what I live for. Eat your heart out BMW, Porsche, Vette, Aston Martin, Ferrari, etc. owners...there just isn't anything out there to match THE luxury 2-seat convertable of our era.
Oh, and chirping the rears at 80+ while pegged to your seat like a Shuttle Astronaut blasting off from Kennedy Space Center gives me something my girlfriend really appreciates! As an ole buddy of mine would say, "makes me harder than chinese arithmetic!"
Enjoy!
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Sl65, SL600 RENNtech, Verde Ithaca LP640, 3 highly modified Panteras, Maserati Biturbo, 300D turtle
Ha ha yes, biggest bang for the buck out there...now RENNtech it and you will really enjoy it (but ware some diapers on the first ride).
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Well, before you die (or throw more money away on filters) you might want to read this http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html. K&N are properly the worst thing you can do for your car. A complete waste of money and on top of that, they need regular cleaning...and let us be honest, it is not likely to happen
AIR FILTER
Basically it says all air filters are the same, also it seems everyone and his
dog uses K&N, people don't buy them from there dirt stopping ability, they
are bought for one reason...extra power.
What they should have done is stick a car on a Dyno and measure the BHP
on each filter, just in case there is another aspect not taken into consideration with these filters. Personally once re mapped it's got to have
a K&N, maybe it's better than a stock filter whatever make it is.
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My god who would think someone would do a test as complex as this for an
AIR FILTER
Basically it says all air filters are the same, also it seems everyone and his
dog uses K&N, people don't buy them from there dirt stopping ability, they
are bought for one reason...extra power.
What they should have done is stick a car on a Dyno and measure the BHP
on each filter, just in case there is another aspect not taken into consideration with these filters. Personally once re mapped it's got to have
a K&N, maybe it's better than a stock filter whatever make it is.
AIR FILTER
Basically it says all air filters are the same, also it seems everyone and his
dog uses K&N, people don't buy them from there dirt stopping ability, they
are bought for one reason...extra power.
What they should have done is stick a car on a Dyno and measure the BHP
on each filter, just in case there is another aspect not taken into consideration with these filters. Personally once re mapped it's got to have
a K&N, maybe it's better than a stock filter whatever make it is.
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And...how did we get from the virtues of the SL65 to insulting language over swapping air filters. JC...if you don't have something constructive / complementary to say...save us from the agony of reading BS.
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The thing about air filters and K&N in particular, is the you cannot just assume that installing an particular air filter will increase the HP in a given car. In some case it will increase the HP (with some negative effects). With cars where they have a non-optimal construction, size and/or location, it could be a help. K&N air filters generally have a larger surface which will naturally increase the flow across the filter compared to the stock filter. If you on top of that move the intake or filter to the front and insulate it from the rest of the engine compartment so it can scoop up colder air, it would also be a help.
If you look at the construction of the SL air intake and the location, you already have a 'cold air' intake on each side of the radiator. The size of the filters is already close to optimal so the gain from adding K&N filters to an SL65 is minimal at best.
With K&N too much dirt gets through them, they don’t add any power, and owners end up going to the service department regarding drivability problems stemming from the oil on a K&N getting into the MAF system.
Another interesting observation is that nobody, I mean NOBODY, offers K&N air filters as the stock filter. It doesn't matter if we are looking at a high performance $500.000 Lamborghini or Ferrari, or if we look at a Smart car. Not for a second do I believe it comes down to cost when we are looking at Lamborghini or Ferrari....or SL65's for that matter.
But again, each to his or her own and if you feel that a K&N adds something to your car, then you should definitely install them. Happy driving....
If you look at the construction of the SL air intake and the location, you already have a 'cold air' intake on each side of the radiator. The size of the filters is already close to optimal so the gain from adding K&N filters to an SL65 is minimal at best.
With K&N too much dirt gets through them, they don’t add any power, and owners end up going to the service department regarding drivability problems stemming from the oil on a K&N getting into the MAF system.
Another interesting observation is that nobody, I mean NOBODY, offers K&N air filters as the stock filter. It doesn't matter if we are looking at a high performance $500.000 Lamborghini or Ferrari, or if we look at a Smart car. Not for a second do I believe it comes down to cost when we are looking at Lamborghini or Ferrari....or SL65's for that matter.
But again, each to his or her own and if you feel that a K&N adds something to your car, then you should definitely install them. Happy driving....
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It is important to keep in mind what the baseline is and what you do to the car. Simply swapping the filter is not always the solution.
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Yeah, I go through the same analogy with my Maserati Biturbo...love it when it works, hate it when it doesn't. But with the SL65 with RENNtech, the upside is worth any punishment in maintenance costs (none for me "yet").
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That is not always true. It greatly depends one the construction and placement of the stock filter. Assuming that this: http://www.lsxtv.com/tech-stories/en...intake-options is true, it proves my point.
It is important to keep in mind what the baseline is and what you do to the car. Simply swapping the filter is not always the solution.
It is important to keep in mind what the baseline is and what you do to the car. Simply swapping the filter is not always the solution.
interesting also that only the stock dyno chart crosses at 5250rpm.
Keep in mind also that these magazines and websites are sponsored and have been known to do some dyno trickery (no fan for stock, add fan for aftermarket, different vehicle temps, etc) to make the numbers say what they want.
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It's funny, everyone at some time wants a SL65, why I ask myself. Now I am back in a 65 I am happy again, owning the top SL also has nothing to
do with money, I have just changed an almost new SL63 for a 10 year old
SL65. I just love the shape, the interior everything, I have even gone off the
idea of fitting a wide body kit.
Here's to the SL65 an amazing car.
do with money, I have just changed an almost new SL63 for a 10 year old
SL65. I just love the shape, the interior everything, I have even gone off the
idea of fitting a wide body kit.
Here's to the SL65 an amazing car.
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I did read it, and then decided I just wasted time when I could have been
polishing my 65
It was a big complex test that proves nothing. Sure if you put every filter
tested in your car I doubt you will feel the difference. We are dealing with
miniscule differences in engine power, and the average man just wants the
cheapest and probably wouldn't know if it added another 30 hp.
The test was akin to testing how fast grass grows....er no no that is more interesting. Just fit a K&N and imagine all that extra power, it works like
a lot of Kings new clothes items.
Now where's that polish, thanks guys for some great posts, even Quadcam.
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Look at the post.............what do you think............needs lowering though.
I kept my first 230 SL55 for 5 years, I never modified it, and it started to
get some problems so I sold it for the 2009 SL63.
Sometimes I wish I had kept it and done wheels, ecu, and more, might still
have it, didn't have that V12 feel so ultimately the 65 was always what I
would end up in. Do you know I have to look at her when I get up in the
night for a wee. out the window of course
I kept my first 230 SL55 for 5 years, I never modified it, and it started to
get some problems so I sold it for the 2009 SL63.
Sometimes I wish I had kept it and done wheels, ecu, and more, might still
have it, didn't have that V12 feel so ultimately the 65 was always what I
would end up in. Do you know I have to look at her when I get up in the
night for a wee. out the window of course