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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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SLK 280 w/out Command Good Ipod solution?

Hey Guys. I searched the forums but have a few specific questions some of you may be able to help me with.

First of all, I just bought a '06 SLK 280 without command, and without navigation. it DOES have the six CD Changer, and a few more toys.

I was looking for an ipod solution and not sure how to proceed. I was under the impression the car came pre-installed with an aux-input cable. My mistake! I believe mercedes has an ipod integration kit for this car, but thought I required command to have it installed? Also the dealer said it would cost approximately ~$500 installed.

Are their any other options out their to hook up an IPOD DIrectly? I have gone through FM Transmitters and am not a big fan of them. I do not require steering wheel controls either. I have also heard any solution I get will require me to replace my six cd changer, thus making it useless. I was curious about maybe the Harmon Kardon solution?

Any ideas? Thanks for taking the time to read this.

-Neil
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by clusion
Hey Guys. I searched the forums but have a few specific questions some of you may be able to help me with.

First of all, I just bought a '06 SLK 280 without command, and without navigation. it DOES have the six CD Changer, and a few more toys.

I was looking for an ipod solution and not sure how to proceed. I was under the impression the car came pre-installed with an aux-input cable. My mistake! I believe mercedes has an ipod integration kit for this car, but thought I required command to have it installed? Also the dealer said it would cost approximately ~$500 installed.

Are their any other options out their to hook up an IPOD DIrectly? I have gone through FM Transmitters and am not a big fan of them. I do not require steering wheel controls either. I have also heard any solution I get will require me to replace my six cd changer, thus making it useless. I was curious about maybe the Harmon Kardon solution?

Any ideas? Thanks for taking the time to read this.

-Neil
PM Motzkoman, he has the Audio 20 w/o the COMMAND and was able to install the iPod successfully.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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PM Motzkoman, he has the Audio 20 w/o the COMMAND and was able to install the iPod successfully.
I was under the impression that you could not do that unless you did the mbenznl conversion to the audio 20 which is quite expensive.....It will be nice if there is another solution...Post something if you do have a a viable solution with a decent price-tag
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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I was under the impression that you could not do that unless you did the mbenznl conversion to the audio 20 which is quite expensive.....It will be nice if there is another solution...Post something if you do have a a viable solution with a decent price-tag
You are correct sir. I confirmed today that without the command system their is no direct input possible. I have also been researching aftermarket solutions and am finding out that the ones that are available replace the CD changer completely, and sound sort of iffy.

The research continues!

-Neil
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by IERAX
I was under the impression that you could not do that unless you did the mbenznl conversion to the audio 20 which is quite expensive.....
...which is what motzkoman has...an original mercedes audio20 (slightly modified) in combination with the original mercedes Ipod kit...

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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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...which is what motzkoman has...an original mercedes audio20 (slightly modified) in combination with the original mercedes Ipod kit...

greetingz,
thanks, I was going to say that motzkoman's audio 20 is slighty modied by Steve IIRC.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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It is definitely the best conversion(and only ) you can do and keep the wheel buttons functioning along with the original sound system...
At least Mbenznl's work comes highly recommended if you can afford to spend the money....the most cost effective route is a different head unit,i.e alpine and a relevant ipod kit...You lose the wheel buttons functions though
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by IERAX
It is definitely the best conversion(and only ) you can do and keep the wheel buttons functioning along with the original sound system...
At least Mbenznl's work comes highly recommended if you can afford to spend the money....the most cost effective route is a different head unit,i.e alpine and a relevant ipod kit...You lose the wheel buttons functions though
Could someone post what current Alpine stereo's would work. I called both
Alpine and Crutchfield and both were completely no help.

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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ynot
thanks, I was going to say that motzkoman's audio 20 is slighty modied by Steve IIRC.
I left him a message. I hope he decides to share with us in this message board as to how he got it hooked up.

I am unable to locate ANY aftermarket solutions that would tap into the fiber connections. Only Dension appears to have something in the works, but they stated a release date of March '06. So I am unsure how credible that is, or how long before they do release a product. I am also curiuos as to what the typical prices run for those things.

Does anyone know who makes our Decks for the audio 20 ?

-Neil
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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whoever makes the audio 20's does not matter . You can replace the audio 20 with whatever head unit you want if you have not had a cd changer installed.
Without a cd changer,the audio 20 is not connected to the fiberoptic network.
With a cd changer,it is. There is a relevant document here http://
that makes it easy to understand.
www.billsden.org/mercedes/slk/docs/train_audio_comm.pdf

But even then you can rip it out and replace it with an alpine head unit etc. You just lose the wheel button functionality and the ability to see tracks/radios stations displayed. I will not mention the cost for doing mbenznl's cost for converting the audio 20 (pm him for particulars) but I think it would be better to use the money towards another head unit and an extra amplifier.
You could also install an extra amplifier and an A/B switch between the stock audio 20 and the speakers,that would give you better amplification and allow you to connect an ipod....
The dension product seems the better solution for integrating in the stock audio 20 system .....It is going to be expensive though and probably cost as much as a decent head unit.
P.S I read somewhere that there was an adaptation kit that allowed an alpine head unit to be controlled by the stock steering wheel buttons of the slk, but I have not found one yet,nor was able to validate the above info .

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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by IERAX
I was under the impression that you could not do that unless you did the mbenznl conversion to the audio 20 which is quite expensive.....It will be nice if there is another solution...Post something if you do have a a viable solution with a decent price-tag
I am a happy customer of MBenzNL and did not feel they were at all expensive...have you talked with them?

On the how it is hooked up side, I can't say, but the work done by Steve was great and I have had no problems...

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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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I am a happy customer of MBenzNL and did not feel they were at all expensive...have you talked with them?

On the how it is hooked up side, I can't say, but the work done by Steve was great and I have had no problems...
Yes I have talked with them.I do not dispute the quality of the job, but it is quite expensive.I suspect that they are not to be entirely blamed for the price,the factory audio 20 is the main culprit here... I do not mention the quote since they do not have it on their website and need to be emailed to get one.
You can easily buy a good alpine unit with that money and put some money towards an amp if you are not interested in keeping the original and handicapped look of the audio 20.
i am torn between getting a conversion or a new head unit myself...

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by IERAX
You can easily buy a good alpine unit with that money and put some money towards an amp if you are not interested in keeping the original and handicapped look of the audio 20.
i am torn between getting a conversion or a new head unit myself...
the biggest advantages of keeping the mercedes system is 1) no warranty issues in the future (all original mercedes), 2) full integration with steering wheel and instrument cluster, 3) full support for mercedes CD changer, phone (prewired in the US) & teleaid (standard? in the US) & 4) perfect fitment & looks as if it belongs in teh dash of the car

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