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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Slk 63???

do you guys think/know if AMG will make a slk63?? it might be a bit of a overkill for such a small and light car but since BMWs Z4M is coming out and is claiming 0-60 in 4.9 as well.. AMG might just do it to be slightly faster??
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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ya there is going to be a SLK 63... with 510 hp, don't know the torque. I wonder how you knew it was going to be a 63 since all of the higher end AMG models are 65. Hmmm! There has been many posts on here about the SLK 63 AMG. Do a search!

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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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who knows

Do a search, but there is no definitive answer yet.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jing
do you guys think/know if AMG will make a slk63?? it might be a bit of a overkill for such a small and light car but since BMWs Z4M is coming out and is claiming 0-60 in 4.9 as well.. AMG might just do it to be slightly faster??

official time is 5.0 for the z4 M ... but in reality its less, I got a 4.45 sec in my G-tech meter for the SLK 55 ... I might get the z4 M coupe.. it looks stunning ..
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 06:39 AM
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ya there is going to be a SLK 63... with 510 hp, don't know the torque....
Volker Mornhinweg, chairman of Mercedes-AMG

...For the SLK, we could use the new 6.3-liter engine, but we may also raise output of the current engine. There is no decision yet....
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Volker Mornhinweg, chairman of Mercedes-AMG
...For the SLK, we could use the new 6.3-liter engine, but we may also raise output of the current engine. There is no decision yet....
Already took a baby step in that direction with the Euro only 400HP option.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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I've been told that the SLK will NOT get the 63 engine. It doesnt have enough room under the hood. Rather, it would be a tuned version of the current AMG V8.

But then, my info was from the GM of my dealership. I always believe in half of what the dealer says.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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I believe it is overall roughly the same size yet weighs 20lbs less.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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but even at stock the 63 engine is 100++ more hp (as AMG claims on their website) to the 55 and putting that on a slk would give it almost as much power as a sl600 yet much much lighter car...one hand... i hope they wouldnt becoz i dont want to have a old model AMG a yr after i buy it..but on the other side... it would be hell of a ride..
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sixty5
I've been told that the SLK will NOT get the 63 engine. It doesnt have enough room under the hood. Rather, it would be a tuned version of the current AMG V8.

But then, my info was from the GM of my dealership. I always believe in half of what the dealer says.
Sounds odd to me. I've got a blower on mine & it fits with no fitment issues whatsoever. The engine bay of the SLK is quite accomodating - guess we'll just have to wait & see what MB wants to do.

If MB wants to seriously get into the sports car segment, they better expand on an already succesful chassis/platform. They could go after the Z06, 911 Turbo, Ferrari market with a 510Hp AMG powerplant while retaining the retractable hard top. That would be a formula for success! People can still buy the heaveir AMG SL cruisers & sedans without worrying about canabalizing revenue by having a smaller/quicker SLK platform. An older marget segment will still opt for a more sedate/refined ride with a slightly more luxurious interior IMO. As long as it goes like a missle & has the aforementioned attributes, SLs will continue to sell.

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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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the difference is that at close to 500HP for a stock slk which has more power then the kleemann s7 while 10 20%???? lighter then a ferrari means raw power and speed while costing less then half the price..it will be in a catagory of its own.. and to make the sl63 compete with the slk AMG would have to make the sl63 close to 700HP since the HP difference between the two at the moment is like 150
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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MB are you listening? Make the SLK63! I'll be at the top of the list for this ride.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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the difference is that at close to 500HP for a stock slk which has more power then the kleemann s7 while 10 20%???? lighter then a ferrari means raw power and speed while costing less then half the price..it will be in a catagory of its own.. and to make the sl63 compete with the slk AMG would have to make the sl63 close to 700HP since the HP difference between the two at the moment is like 150
A Stage 7 Kleemann SLK55 has 590Hp, significantly more power than the 6.3L powerplant at 500 - 510Hp.

The SLK55 (or 63) is not lighter than a Ferrari by 10 or 20%, its heavier by 200 lbs (using the new Ferrari 430 as a comparison).

Lastly, horsepower is not the only metric used to "compete" for sales. There are other examples (I listed a few in my prior post) such as improved ride & interior quality (ie material set). Many people do & will continue to opt for an SL over an SLK due to these and other factors. My point is/was MB can use the same powerplant in the SL & SLK without canabalizing SL sales - they are differentiated enough by other factors than just Hp - my opinion.

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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yeah... ppl will keep buying the more expansive cars even if its no more then just saying hey look...my car is worth more then your life...but im only saying that making such a small roadster so powerful in terms of Hp is a overkill

and is the S7 the same as S8 or is it a older version of S8?? because i dont mod my cars so i dont know much about them but kleemann's site says
"Top model is the KLEEMANN SLK 55K S8 based on the normally aspirated AMG 55 version. A KLEEMANN V8 Kompressor system and full engine performance package delivers 596 Hp and 770 Nm (570 lb-ft)." so does S7 the same and produce the same amount of Hp?
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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yeah... ppl will keep buying the more expansive cars even if its no more then just saying hey look...my car is worth more then your life...but im only saying that making such a small roadster so powerful in terms of Hp is a overkill

and is the S7 the same as S8 or is it a older version of S8?? because i dont mod my cars so i dont know much about them but kleemann's site says
"Top model is the KLEEMANN SLK 55K S8 based on the normally aspirated AMG 55 version. A KLEEMANN V8 Kompressor system and full engine performance package delivers 596 Hp and 770 Nm (570 lb-ft)." so does S7 the same and produce the same amount of Hp?
An S7 is an S8 without cams...about 25 Hp less. I've seen 617Hp for the S8 as well as the 596Hp figure. Kleemann calculates their flywheel Hp via rear wheel + parastic drag to estimate engine power. I believe their advertised power is also DIN, not SAE corrected, so exact power figures vary from source to source by up to 5% (at least that is what I have noticed). My S7 put down 489 rwhp which is about 590 Hp with a 17% drivetrain loss.

All high end sports cars have big power. Its the price of entry - its not an overkill - its a market requirement if you want to play with the big dogs. AMG is a "big dog" in sport sedans & cruisers, just not sports cars. With a 6.3L powerplant in the SLK, they would be a serious high end sports car player (spending less money as you rightly noted)

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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I believe it is overall roughly the same size yet weighs 20lbs less.
Yeah, thats why I said I don't believe on what the dealer said.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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The relatively light weight of SLK combined with the new 6.2 Litre Engine will make for a very interesting ride.

Weight: 3,420 lbs.
Power: 510 hp

Power to Weight = 6.7 lbs/hp
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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spoke to an mb dealer and i have been told that an slk63 is coming with 540 hp. sign me up!!
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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The relatively light weight of SLK combined with the new 6.2 Litre Engine will make for a very interesting ride.

Weight: 3,420 lbs.
Power: 510 hp

Power to Weight = 6.7 lbs/hp
Is it 3,420 pounds or 3,455 pounds??

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I'd be surprised

I'd be very surprised if mercedes decided to put the 6.2 in the SLK. At least not the same motor that goes in the CLS63.

Mercedes had plenty of opportunity to put the 5.5k in the SLK and decided not to. If they made that decision before ... what makes you think it will change?

My guess? Probably a detuned version or perhaps the new 550 engine.

Either way we probably won't see it til 2008. By that time ... I'm gonna be very interested in the new Audi R8.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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I'd be very surprised if mercedes decided to put the 6.2 in the SLK. At least not the same motor that goes in the CLS63.

Mercedes had plenty of opportunity to put the 5.5k in the SLK and decided not to. If they made that decision before ... what makes you think it will change?

My guess? Probably a detuned version or perhaps the new 550 engine.

Either way we probably won't see it til 2008. By that time ... I'm gonna be very interested in the new Audi R8.
Hi Jesse,

Pal, MB did put the 5.5L in the SLK - we are driving it . They did not put the 5.5L in the prior generation SLK since it was not designed to accomodate the V8 (and AMG already had the blown 3.2L in both the C & SLK classes so it would be unwise for MB to redesign & retool mid product stream when you are going to launch a new generation SLK). My guess is they are still reviewing if it makes financial sense to drop the 6.3L or increase power on the existing 5.5L N/A powerplant (perhaps even using the 469 Hp blown version). This decision involves remaining OH inventory of engines/blowers @ AMG, 6.3L production volume ramp schedules, "how to market" a more powerful SLK so as not to canibalize SL sales, blah, blah.. I imagine this is why the CEO said MB is reviewing their options - no decision yet as its too early for the SLK55.

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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SLK 63 article

Interesting looks like 2007 AMG 63 SLK is coming

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=107059
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Hey Matt,

hows it going?

You silly of course I know they put the 5.5 in OUR cars. I said 5.5k!

I doubt they didn't put the 5.5k because of clearance or issues like that. It was almost certainly "how to market a more powerful SLK so as not to canibalize SL sales".

Definitely will be interesting to see what they do decide ... if this horsepower war goes much longer ... its very possible that a tiny car like our SLK's might have over 450hp in stock trim.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Interesting looks like 2007 AMG 63 SLK is coming

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=107059
That is old and outdated press speculation (check the byline August, 2005).

You will NOT see a 2007 AMG SLK63.

It MIGHT be possible to see a MY 2008, announced in 2007, with first production capability in late 2007. This would be general availability for most of us mere mortals in 2008.

However, MB has not officially decided ANYTHING yet concerning SLK63.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Interesting looks like 2007 AMG 63 SLK is coming

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=107059
It's an old article. The boss of AMG just recently stated that they were thinking about it, so nothing confirmed as of yet.

But I really do hope they bring it out. I mean, c'mon, just let it be done with. Who cares if the SLK is faster then the SL, big deal. Those who prefer the SL, will still buy it over the SLK.
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