SLR/C199/R199/Z199: SLR Auction results?
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SLR Auction results?
Anyone have any SLR auction numbers? Wondering what they are going for on the block if any are even going through the highline auctions.
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2020 S560,14 ml350, 03 sl55, silver, pano, slr cams, evo headers, lsd, 2019 s63 cab.
08/10/06 MANHEIM Regular $355,000 94 Above BLACK 8G Yes
07/13/06 MANHEIM Lease $325,000 1,774 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
06/29/06 MANHEIM Regular $320,000 3,167 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
04/21/06 BIG H Regular $369,900 2,581 Above Black 8G Yes
04/18/06 BIG H Regular $360,125 2,551 Above Black 8G Yes
12/20/05 FAAO Regular $365,000 2,551 Above Black 8G A Yes
07/13/06 MANHEIM Lease $325,000 1,774 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
06/29/06 MANHEIM Regular $320,000 3,167 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
04/21/06 BIG H Regular $369,900 2,581 Above Black 8G Yes
04/18/06 BIG H Regular $360,125 2,551 Above Black 8G Yes
12/20/05 FAAO Regular $365,000 2,551 Above Black 8G A Yes
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08/10/06 MANHEIM Regular $355,000 94 Above BLACK 8G Yes
07/13/06 MANHEIM Lease $325,000 1,774 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
06/29/06 MANHEIM Regular $320,000 3,167 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
04/21/06 BIG H Regular $369,900 2,581 Above Black 8G Yes
04/18/06 BIG H Regular $360,125 2,551 Above Black 8G Yes
12/20/05 FAAO Regular $365,000 2,551 Above Black 8G A Yes
07/13/06 MANHEIM Lease $325,000 1,774 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
06/29/06 MANHEIM Regular $320,000 3,167 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
04/21/06 BIG H Regular $369,900 2,581 Above Black 8G Yes
04/18/06 BIG H Regular $360,125 2,551 Above Black 8G Yes
12/20/05 FAAO Regular $365,000 2,551 Above Black 8G A Yes
Thanks! It looks like the last three are the same car. I wonder what the difference from August till now would be. Looks like they probably would be right around the 300k mark.
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juice- when you get one you must contact me. i live nearby and will expect a up close look. thanks
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No prob. I made some calls this week and contrary to what most think no one is giving these cars away even though they are sitting all over the place. An owner that bought new at around 370 isn't losing anymore money than a new SL65 owner selling today. I think some will move in the 275k range but no one is willing to go there especially with the color I would want.
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In a recent survey published this week only 7% of the people thought car salesmen were truthful. This is a good example of the reason why.
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This is very hard to believe. Why would anyone pay MSRP when these cars are widely offered at $70,000 under MSRP, including advertised on this forum and on eBay and available to millions of people.
In a recent survey published this week only 7% of the people thought car salesmen were truthful. This is a good example of the reason why.
In a recent survey published this week only 7% of the people thought car salesmen were truthful. This is a good example of the reason why.
I am with you. One hour of looking on the net and a few calls and you can find an SLR in any color combo for at least 80k off. I aint buying it.
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This is very hard to believe. Why would anyone pay MSRP when these cars are widely offered at $70,000 under MSRP, including advertised on this forum and on eBay and available to millions of people.
In a recent survey published this week only 7% of the people thought car salesmen were truthful. This is a good example of the reason why.
In a recent survey published this week only 7% of the people thought car salesmen were truthful. This is a good example of the reason why.
Give me a break.
If someone with more dollars than sense makes an impulse buy there is only one party at fault. Caveat emptor. It's been the rule for at least two thousand years.
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This is very hard to believe. Why would anyone pay MSRP when these cars are widely offered at $70,000 under MSRP, including advertised on this forum and on eBay and available to millions of people.
In a recent survey published this week only 7% of the people thought car salesmen were truthful. This is a good example of the reason why.
In a recent survey published this week only 7% of the people thought car salesmen were truthful. This is a good example of the reason why.
In his eyes that was the right car for him at the right price.
He wrote a check for it and two days later picked it up.
Rich are different than you and I.
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[QUOTE=Vadim @ MBLN;1891881]I am affraid you missed the point. It was the only Black/Black SLR in SoCal. Client who bought the car was looking for one for a while and did not care what others paid for theirs.
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No, I didn't miss the point.
There is a new Black/Black one at MB in Escondido, Ca that you can buy for less than $360,000. Escondido is about an hour drive from your place.
As I indicated, you qualify for the 93% statistic in the study I mentioned.
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No, I didn't miss the point.
There is a new Black/Black one at MB in Escondido, Ca that you can buy for less than $360,000. Escondido is about an hour drive from your place.
As I indicated, you qualify for the 93% statistic in the study I mentioned.
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No, I didn't miss the point.
There is a new Black/Black one at MB in Escondido, Ca that you can buy for less than $360,000. Escondido is about an hour drive from your place.
As I indicated, you qualify for the 93% statistic in the study I mentioned
There is a new Black/Black one at MB in Escondido, Ca that you can buy for less than $360,000. Escondido is about an hour drive from your place.
As I indicated, you qualify for the 93% statistic in the study I mentioned
P.S. You do not even know me and if you would like to accuse me of something - at least have the fortitude to do it to my face.
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I am not saying its impossible but I find it really hard to believe that you guys sold an SLR close to MSRP recently. People spending that kind of money didn't get rich by being foolish and in 5 min you can find black/black cars all over listed with no haggling at up to 100k off.
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I don't doubt they sold it for that. Like Vadim said, some people don't care what others paid. Stupid? Sure.....but if you have millions of dollars, being stupid in these sorts of situations really doesn't hurt you. People do get rich by not being foolish, but when they are dealing with an area they may not be familiar with (high end cars), I can see one of them not doing any prior research.
I could have gotten my SL for 5k less than I bought it for....but it was a Friday and damn it, I wanted it for the weekend LOL, so I bought it despite the price. It had the colors and options I wanted (pano roof, sport package, black/black).
Stupid decision in hindsight, you only live once though.
I could have gotten my SL for 5k less than I bought it for....but it was a Friday and damn it, I wanted it for the weekend LOL, so I bought it despite the price. It had the colors and options I wanted (pano roof, sport package, black/black).
Stupid decision in hindsight, you only live once though.
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I know Vadim personally for many years, he is honorable but he still works on a margin. Its funny how every educated car guy thinks that paying sticker is way out of line and nobody should ever do it. Trust me I do over 1 billion dollars in car loans each month and we (the educated car buyer) are the exception when we buy a car back of sticker or invoice. When I first started in the business I was shocked but then I realized that its just the car business.
Vadim is a paying sponsor of this site and his credibility is in tact.
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I know Vadim personally for many years, he is honorable but he still works on a margin. Its funny how every educated car guy thinks that paying sticker is way out of line and nobody should ever do it. Trust me I do over 1 billion dollars in car loans each month and we (the educated car buyer) are the exception when we buy a car back of sticker or invoice. When I first started in the business I was shocked but then I realized that its just the car business.
Vadim is a paying sponsor of this site and his credibility is in tact.
Vadim is a paying sponsor of this site and his credibility is in tact.
This discussion does not have to do with paying sticker, it has to do with the real market value of SLR's, which has not been sticker for quite some time.
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Paying Sponsor = Credibility
OK, I got it, thanks for the scoop!
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I am not discounting what you said about SLR values which I agree but I am also stating there are individuals that pay full pop for cars.
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SLR is a car.
Car is a commodity.
Commodities price is set by supply and demand.
Ferrari understands this better than anyone. Try to buy F430 at MSRP.
Very first SLR was sold for almost $1,000,000.00.
MB has decided to increase production - thus increasing supply which means decreasing demand and therefore lower price.
Now most used and even new ones are sold under MSRP.
It is as simple as that.
Does it mean that every single SLR has to be sold at a fixed price?
No.
Cleint paid what he was willing to pay for the car and the dealer sold for what they were willing to sell it for. In the end everybody got what they wanted.
This is why they are called - DEALERS.
You can hate them or love them - but this is how cars are sold in this country.
If you have a problem with that, than it is your own, personal problem.
Deal with it.
If you want to shoot the messenger be ready for return fire.
SLR is a car.
Car is a commodity.
Commodities price is set by supply and demand.
Ferrari understands this better than anyone. Try to buy F430 at MSRP.
Very first SLR was sold for almost $1,000,000.00.
MB has decided to increase production - thus increasing supply which means decreasing demand and therefore lower price.
Now most used and even new ones are sold under MSRP.
It is as simple as that.
Does it mean that every single SLR has to be sold at a fixed price?
No.
Cleint paid what he was willing to pay for the car and the dealer sold for what they were willing to sell it for. In the end everybody got what they wanted.
This is why they are called - DEALERS.
You can hate them or love them - but this is how cars are sold in this country.
If you have a problem with that, than it is your own, personal problem.
Deal with it.
If you want to shoot the messenger be ready for return fire.
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Vadim, this is not aimed at you as by all accounts you seem a decent guy. This is just a general comment....
The thing that annoys me is when dealers mark up cars on the chance that people will come in who know no better. It's not ethical to mark up an E63 by 30k (which is what happened at Calstar in Glendale) and say that's what they go for. Antique dealers are not allowed to ply on people's lack of knowledge when shopping for goods, so the same laws should apply to car salesman.
The thing that annoys me is when dealers mark up cars on the chance that people will come in who know no better. It's not ethical to mark up an E63 by 30k (which is what happened at Calstar in Glendale) and say that's what they go for. Antique dealers are not allowed to ply on people's lack of knowledge when shopping for goods, so the same laws should apply to car salesman.
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If you think no one out there will pay MSRP for the SLR, you are a moron, plain and simple.
Carl, I disagree with you. Dealers are out to make money like any other business. If someone goes into a dealer, let alone a Mercedes dealer with $100k ready to spend.....and "does not know any better," then they shouldn't be there in the first place. I don't think it's about the people who have paid MSRP for the SLR not knowing any better, they just don't give a ****. $100k is a week's pay to them probably.
Carl, I disagree with you. Dealers are out to make money like any other business. If someone goes into a dealer, let alone a Mercedes dealer with $100k ready to spend.....and "does not know any better," then they shouldn't be there in the first place. I don't think it's about the people who have paid MSRP for the SLR not knowing any better, they just don't give a ****. $100k is a week's pay to them probably.
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Might I add too.....the price a car goes for is what someone is willing to pay for it. It might be under MSRP...it might be at MSRP....it might be over MSRP.
A dealer who knows they can get more than MSRP for a car and then turns around and sells it for MSRP is as big of a sucker as the guy walking in the door who can't take 2 minutes to look on Ebay, Autotrader.com, or Google for car values. I'm tired of stupid people...it's one thing to be deceived into buying a car for so much, it's another thing when people are just stupid. The world always wants to make excuses for stupid and uninformed people who are that way because they are too lazy to research.
A dealer who knows they can get more than MSRP for a car and then turns around and sells it for MSRP is as big of a sucker as the guy walking in the door who can't take 2 minutes to look on Ebay, Autotrader.com, or Google for car values. I'm tired of stupid people...it's one thing to be deceived into buying a car for so much, it's another thing when people are just stupid. The world always wants to make excuses for stupid and uninformed people who are that way because they are too lazy to research.
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If you think no one out there will pay MSRP for the SLR, you are a moron, plain and simple.
Carl, I disagree with you. Dealers are out to make money like any other business. If someone goes into a dealer, let alone a Mercedes dealer with $100k ready to spend.....and "does not know any better," then they shouldn't be there in the first place. I don't think it's about the people who have paid MSRP for the SLR not knowing any better, they just don't give a ****. $100k is a week's pay to them probably.
Carl, I disagree with you. Dealers are out to make money like any other business. If someone goes into a dealer, let alone a Mercedes dealer with $100k ready to spend.....and "does not know any better," then they shouldn't be there in the first place. I don't think it's about the people who have paid MSRP for the SLR not knowing any better, they just don't give a ****. $100k is a week's pay to them probably.
