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Old 12-05-2008, 12:45 AM
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<<< Peformance ECU upgrade for W210 E55 >>>

Hello everyone,

We now have a Holiday Special on the Performance ECU Upgrades available for the E55 AMGs. They are now available for $50 off.

Standard pricing:
- E55 = $325

AMS pricing:
- E55 = $275

Dyno Charts:
- E55 = W210 E55 AMG Dyno

*This tune is also available with our Stage 1 Performance Package (ECU + Pulley)*

If interested feel free to contact us via Email for more details.
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Sure thing, Just email us when ready and we'll take care of the rest.
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Is the software for the pulley and without the pulley different?
How about for when the headers come out? Will we need a different tune?
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Hello Nico,

The headers are already out we just haven't had a chance to update the website, we will be doing that by early next week. The tune is compatible with all those components but is not necessary. You can get the headers or pulley separate or all together, it doesn't matter. Our Stage 3+ setup is different in that it is a much more aggressive tune designed for intake & exhaust modified AMGs to extract the maximum amount of performance possible. Please check our website next week for updates. Thanks
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Ok, when I buy the ECU for $275. What do I do then? How do I install it? Lastly, how much for the WHOLE job?

Thank you in advance.
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Hello Lee Rod,

Very simple, you just take out your ECU, ship it to SpeedtuningUSA, they reflash it for you and send it right back. Express shipping is standard $20 rate for anywhere in continental US. If you do all the work yourself its just as listed, if you have a shop do it for you (not really necessary) then they may charge you alittle bit (but honestly its so easy the most they should charge you is 1 hour of labor. If you need to do anything else at the shop then you could just tack on this and save some money as they probably would not charge you extra. It is a quick, easy and painless process to do. Hope that helps.
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Hello Lee Rod,

Very simple, you just take out your ECU, ship it to SpeedtuningUSA, they reflash it for you and send it right back. Express shipping is standard $20 rate for anywhere in continental US. If you do all the work yourself its just as listed, if you have a shop do it for you (not really necessary) then they may charge you alittle bit (but honestly its so easy the most they should charge you is 1 hour of labor. If you need to do anything else at the shop then you could just tack on this and save some money as they probably would not charge you extra. It is a quick, easy and painless process to do. Hope that helps.
Thats what I like to hear "simple"

I might have to ask for a walk through when i'm ready to remove my ECU. I should be ready for this and the X-Pipe mod just after Christmas. I'll be badgering you for help.

Thanks again bro!
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No problem, we are always glad to help in any way we can whether it be performance products or just some simple advice. Thanks
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How much for Stage 3. Headers+ECU+Pulleys ??

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We are releasing that info within the next day or two, we appreciate your patience, check back for more news soon...
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Originally Posted by AMS Performance
We are releasing that info within the next day or two, we appreciate your patience, check back for more news soon...
went to your site , half of the products don't even open up...
what exactly you guys do with the tune on the ecu?
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Originally Posted by amgalex
went to your site , half of the products don't even open up...
what exactly you guys do with the tune on the ecu?
+1 I'm interested in the ECU upgrade but what does it do exactly? Details please
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Curious how this affects gas mileage. Granted, I didn't get the car for gas mileage and obviously with my foot on the pedal it will decrease, but what about cruisin down the highway? Right now I'm getting 25-26 at 74mph on my roadtrips.
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+1 I'm interested in the ECU upgrade but what does it do exactly? Details please
It shoots McNuggets into your mouth with the push of a button!!


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AMGalex- We apologize for the inconvenience, we are currently updating the website day by day, lots of new changes coming.

Armani - SpeedtuningUSA does all our ECU programing, we simply offer it at a significantly lower price. SPTUSA has reprogrammed many of the ECUs on MBworld and has done an excellent job.

Esh - during normal driving there should be no difference. Its only under WOT that you might burn slightly more fuel but even so it may be difficult to notice. The only way to really get more MPG is upgrading other components to improve efficiency of the engine.

Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by AMS Performance
AMGalex- We apologize for the inconvenience, we are currently updating the website day by day, lots of new changes coming.

Armani - SpeedtuningUSA does all our ECU programing, we simply offer it at a significantly lower price. SPTUSA has reprogrammed many of the ECUs on MBworld and has done an excellent job.

Esh - during normal driving there should be no difference. Its only under WOT that you might burn slightly more fuel but even so it may be difficult to notice. The only way to really get more MPG is upgrading other components to improve efficiency of the engine.

Hope that helps.
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ok- better pricing . Got that part but what does it do performace wise? Does my gearbox change gears at higher RPM? Details please

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How does this compare to Sprint Booster? whats the difference.....or can i use both?
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Originally Posted by armaniE55
ok- better pricing . Got that part but what does it do performace wise? Does my gearbox change gears at higher RPM? Details please
Hello Armani,

The stage 2 software (+) allows for a 6400rpm redline when driven in manual mode (normally in D its still around 6000-6100rpm).

cdiem, Yes it can be used with sprint booster, although honestly sprint booster doesn't really make more power it just improves throttle response. If you modify your car with the right modifications to improve efficiency you will get the same effect without having to buy the sprint booster. All the sprint booster does is trick the throttle inputs from progressive to a more linear feel. It works, but is is a bit gimmicky in my opinion.

All our modifications are compatible with other modifications so you never have to worry about compatibility. That is why we design them to be direct OEM replacements.

Hope that helps,
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Not to bust your chops Omey, but why is AMS's ECU upgrade so much cheaper than most spots?

I always see them $800 and up!
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I still want to know more info..
besides higher redline what else is modified?
Is the transmission learning mode disabled? ( would be really nice to eliminate the shift lag)
what is done with the AF ratio, timing etc?
does this ecu modify Open loop mode only or both Closed and Open?
do you need specific for the car AF ratios to be sent in or is the tune generic, same for all adjustment?
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Originally Posted by amgalex
I still want to know more info..
besides higher redline what else is modified?
Is the transmission learning mode disabled? ( would be really nice to eliminate the shift lag)
what is done with the AF ratio, timing etc?
does this ecu modify Open loop mode only or both Closed and Open?
do you need specific for the car AF ratios to be sent in or is the tune generic, same for all adjustment?
Hello AMGalex,

Yes, of course it changes all that just as any performance software upgrade, no additional info necessary. Stage 2 does cost additional (roughly $100-150 extra depending on the car). To be honest though, you do not really need 6400rpm; the stock power band starts to peak in the mid 5000s anyways so really there is no purpose revving that high unless you have upgraded cams.

The transmission lag is not disabled but you can easily reset your ECU via pedal reset which normally cures that lag. A performance crank pulley helps with shifting smoothness & speed as well but other then that there really isn't much you can do. You have to remember it is still the old 722.6 benz 5spd. You can't turn it into a sequential transmission so you just have to live with what you got.
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Originally Posted by LeeRod80
Not to bust your chops Omey, but why is AMS's ECU upgrade so much cheaper than most spots?

I always see them $800 and up!

Easy, because other tuners like to rob their customers blind. Just because you have a car with a 3-pointed start (and 3 letter suffix) tuners think that is a legitimate reason to rip them off. Not only do I find it bad practice, but its flat out immoral & unethical in my opinion, which is why AMS aims to provide performance products at a fraction of the cost of other tuners. Its not about the money its about the principle.

Software is especially a controversial upgrade b/c they rarely dyno as much as they should in the real world. Realistically you won't get more than 10-15HP for most NA applications on a real dyno, and even so that is usually on a modified vehicle. On a stock car, they sometimes don't even that much power at all. I've never seen any tuners software live up 100% to their claims in all my years of modding, so just take all ECU claims with a grain of salt and stick to the more substantial mods first then do ECU last to "complete" the car.

My honest advice is do software last, most people try to do it first but it isn't nearly as good as Headers, pulley, or high flow cats in terms of its real world performance per $$ .

Our stage 2 performance package (headers + pulley) & high flow 2nd cats will unlock roughly 80% of all the power you can unlock out of these motors NA. The rest will be from little stuff like Software, K&Ns, and etc. Its rare you will see this level of honesty from a tuner, but I believe honesty is the best policy, wouldn't want to give false hope or overly optimistic expectations. If you have the pulley, headers & cats already then do software it will actually provide decent significant gains, otherwise save your money for more substantial mods that you can feel more.

Hope that helps,
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Easy, because other tuners like to rob their customers blind. Just because you have a car with a 3-pointed start (and 3 letter suffix) tuners think that is a legitimate reason to rip them off. Not only do I find it bad practice, but its flat out immoral & unethical in my opinion, which is why AMS aims to provide performance products at a fraction of the cost of other tuners. Its not about the money its about the principle.

Software is especially a controversial upgrade b/c they rarely dyno as much as they should in the real world. Realistically you won't get more than 10-15HP for most NA applications on a real dyno, and even so that is usually on a modified vehicle. On a stock car, they sometimes don't even that much power at all. I've never seen any tuners software live up 100% to their claims in all my years of modding, so just take all ECU claims with a grain of salt and stick to the more substantial mods first then do ECU last to "complete" the car.

My honest advice is do software last, most people try to do it first but it isn't nearly as good as Headers, pulley, or high flow cats in terms of its real world performance per $$ .

Our stage 2 performance package (headers + pulley) & high flow 2nd cats will unlock roughly 80% of all the power you can unlock out of these motors NA. The rest will be from little stuff like Software, K&Ns, and etc. Its rare you will see this level of honesty from a tuner, but I believe honesty is the best policy, wouldn't want to give false hope or overly optimistic expectations. If you have the pulley, headers & cats already then do software it will actually provide decent significant gains, otherwise save your money for more substantial mods that you can feel more.

Hope that helps,
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Well said
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Thank you sir! I knew it was crazy that they charge so much!

I want the stage 2 badly, as you know. Just trying to get my suspension done first.

Handling before MORE speed sounds smart to me.....

Thanks again for your response.


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