ABALONE

Ok, here is the meal --> 11.863/195,54 Km/h (Fastest W210 this far, Jim Cannon's)

And here is the deal -->

:JE custom made Pistons
:New steel bore
:CR 9,0:1
:Ported and polished heads
:Ported S/C
:465cc Injectors
:Bigger fuel pump
:Modded MAF with larger house
:Larger throttle body
:Smaller S/C pulley and larger crank pulley
:Unique mapped ECU tune
:Boost will be between 0,8-1,2 bar (12-17 Psi)









Ported S/C inlet & outlet



Ooh, and you may ask WHY all these mods and money on a W210 instead of buying a W211

Answer = LOVE for the E55 W210

pinoyk20

wow im interested on your build! hope i can do the same by nextyear. btw what throttlebody are you going to use? also what type of pulleys? thanks

45acp

badass!

are you increasing the bore size at all? a stroker 55 motor would be sweet. what about the cams?

SaMaS

Great Job !!! best luck and keep us posted !!!

JAYCL600

you know i will be watching this one

jeff.bisonett

looking good!

Did you also do cams?

suicidal4life

Is this still the quickest W210? There was some talk floating around the forum about a 10.45 E55 and Ted Baldwin's times were pretty close to Jim Cannon before Ted increased his boost. Haven't heard what he has run since.

Still your car should be a beast when done regardless.

maxwerks

Great work , I am sure you will be very happy..... curious though .. any reason why you wouldnt bore it out to 6.0L ? With that amount of work , it would be very convenient.

RAMON55

Looking good Abalone. Cant wait to see the finished results and some vids

AMGSC

Holy Sheet!!
I'm doing the same thing BUT was having trouble with the car stuttering at 2500rpm. I have the 82mm TB but the MAF is the choke point or the dual CAI is just bringing in too much air for the MAF to handle and is getting confused. The elbow after the MAF and before the ported SC inlet also needs to have fins inside to smooth out the air and mesh screens should be inserted in front of 2 Y inlets and another at the Y outlet into the MAF.

Can you give me your source for the modified MAF, fuel pump, injectors and larger crank pulley? I want to make sure these components are similar to mine.

I plan on adding 15mm to my stock from 150mm crank pulley to 165mm which will give me another 6psi . I have a 65mm SC pulley now which gives me 12psi measured so I plan to settle down at 18psi which should be the max boost for the Kleemann Autorotor twin-screw blower.

Are you using www.abacoperformance.com for the MAF or somebody else? What is the brand and PN# of the injectors you plan to use? I purchased SLR injectors but may just return them if you've got better ones. Please share with us the PN# for the pump as well. Who's doing your crank pulley? ASP or a company in Sweden? Can you refer me to your vendors so I don't have to go through a trial and error process?

I truly believe that if we can get the MAF, injectors, fuel pump and SC pully issues sorted out, these Kleemanized cars can break the dragtimes overall MB record of 10.5 second ET and 133 trap record WITHOUT nitrous.

Dawson AMG

Hey ABALONE, I have the same Snap-On tool box as the one you have in the pictures...1980's when they were made to last...Great motor build keep the power turning!

ABALONE

Wow, thanks a lot for the support friends

I will update the info on the parts used when the engine is all started up and measured up so everything is working

AMGSC --> Thanks for the info, we can keep in contact in PM when we get a bit longer on my project. Hope we can get our cars to work out fine.

I'm running a 63,5 mm S/C pulley, but thinking of going up to a bigger one combined with a bigger crank pulley. To small S/C pulley will only get belt slip and increased the wear and stress the bearings. Problem is that you can't go to big on the crank pulley to increase boost, cause it will not be much space between the water pump pulley (you could go smaller on the water pump pulley to of course)
I calculated that i will need a 200+ mm crank pulley to reach over 1,0 bar of boost, so there i might have a problem

Crank pulley will be a custom made one on top of the stock crank pulley = a new larger ring will be heat/cold mounted on the stock crank pulley.

Regarding the bore to 6 liter or so. Decided not to go that route. It will not increase the HP that much as one would think, only the torque, and with 5,4L i will have enough torque to play with We are talking about a 5,4L engine, i think we get a bit spoiled sometimes and not realize that it's quite big after all

Going with a bigger bore will also make the engine weaker cause the 5,4L is not that thick, and the biggest problem is that i would have had to with new head gaskets and other things that will have to be modified for a 6 liter big cylinder bore = To much extra work and to few HP to gain.

Also decided to not go with cams, at least not at this time. To much money right now for me. And after reading a bit and talked to a few, there isn't that much to gain from cams if i look at it from how i use my car, on the streets. A few top HP would of course be cool, but not the the cost of a high reving engine that wakes up after 5200 rpm, the automatic gearbox will still shift at just over 6000 rpms so i really don't see the gain for me. Think power will be there after all.

I'll keep you posted

AMGSC

Great let's keep in touch. I am already running and all 8 cylinders are at exactly 160 after flooring it for over 1K miles. Only problem I have is slight stumble/stutter at 2500rpm due to MAF.

I also decided to stay with the 5.4 block although the spare 5.4 block that was damaged can still be bored if I get bored. Vadim at FD has the contact of the shop that built HAVOC's 5.7 litre which is a beast since I rode in it just today.

Havoc

Great project!

Good luck with the build and keep us posted.

HEY!!

Wait until all the intake and exhaust mods with more boost and ECU/TCU tune are on!

Fabio D

Exelent!

Fabio Daniel

ABALONE

Here are a few pics of two of the pistons.






Piston broken in the ring land



Heartless





S/C unit

pinoyk20

wow cant im xcited to see the results of your build! thanks

NitrogenBalance

Looks Good! Thought you had to pull the tranny along with the block? That thing should be great if all works out.

Depending on how much damage occured to mine I'm wondering if I should look into boring/sleeving my 4.3L instead of replacing it entirely?...I feel like more and more of these stout rebuilds are showing up, and running at that.

Care to share what typical costs are for this work? AMGSC? Abalone, I understand your far away also so $ may be different.

Good Luck!

AMGSC

Vadim rebuilt mine for $8K with 9:1CR forged pistons, repolished rods and oversized valves along with head and SC porting. Everything would have worked out had the machine shop not overlooked a minor detail which required major engine rework. That machine shop is now being sued. But now the motor is running strong. Just a slight probem with the MAF causing a slight stumble at 2500rpm.

AMGSC

btw...I have a 5.5 litre block FD can bore out to 6.1 liter for sale at $500 if anyone is interestd.

Vadim can prolly build this for a ridiculously great price. He's already got Havoc's 5.7SL55 running smooth as velvet but powerful as a hammer.

I believe that once the MAF restriction is solved by FD, ALL of the Kleemanized SC'd cars (E's, CLK's, SLK's and C's and all the 500s) will now have a stage 9 package which will include dual 3" CAIs, 82mm TB, larger injectors and fuel pump much like what Magnus is doing and a 12-18psi boost level.

hooleyboy

By looking at the pic of the SC, Your going to run into tuning issues with the stock (tan) injectors. Looking at the scope of this project I would highly recommend upgrading to a 55k injector. You will find the duty cycle of the stock injectors to be maxed out... Well before you ever get to the goal you want.

AMGSC

At 1.2bar even the 55k injectors will max out. What do you recommend for these MBs running that much boost which Magnus and I are both planning to do? Would you have a part number you suggest? And what about your fuel pump. What did you do to upgrade it? I know you are running on 12psi as well.

I've already figured that the size of my crank pulley needs to increase from 150mm to 165mm which will still clear the water pump pulley. This will take me to 16psi (12psi sc pulley + 6psi Crank pulley).

hooleyboy

I think Rich was confused. If I was running 12psi I would launch a piston into orbit. Im right at 10psi peak and 7.5 at redline. I'm only running a 168mm crank pulley. With my set up the fuel pump isnt an issue. As power hungry as I am.. I would fear 12psi with my setup.

Maybe look at an SLR injector. In most cases you want a better injector rather than something to compensate for the lack of injector.

ABALONE

I know, and thats why 465cc injectors are in my list above .
Stock injectors on a W210 are only at about right under 300cc and they have to be "raped" with 8 bas of fuel pressure to manage to get along with the Kleemann S/C fuel system, thats way tooo high

ABALONE

Hi!

Well, i'm in Sweden, and it wouldn't be quite fair to just transfer my costs from SEK to $US now when to US dollar is so weak compared to the Swedish Crown. You would probably think i'm crazy paying that much