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Old 01-02-2017, 06:25 AM
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W109 300SEL6.3, W123 280TE, W123 200T, W210 E55
I decided to do myseld a favor and got my Engineparts yellow coated.




And after 30.000km i changed the spark plugs...


with the new welded headers and the new cooling pumps i did some testdrives ... and killed some flys


and made some nice pictures:










to be continued...
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After a long search i hat the oppertunity to get hands on used MKB Headers including downpipes and catalysts for my W210... immediately i got rid of the kleemann headers.




























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W109 300SEL6.3, W123 280TE, W123 200T, W210 E55
And the last BIG Project this year was to install a Killer Chiller System in my Car.



































But as we have around 0° Celsius ... the system cant be really tested actually ... i have to wait for better weather

with a little modfied hoses and the killer chiller system i had to threw 1 radiator out of the system, i now have 2 radiators, 2 cwa100 pumps and the killer chiller system and still got around 23-24L/min. flow-through

greetings, Fabian

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that's what winter is in germany, bright and shiny without snow on the streets?

what was the NGK sparkplugs you bought?
is it this version NGK PFR5R-11

mods looks very nice.
headers from MKB are they better than Kleeman?
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hmnaa... pictures where taken over the last 3 months, but usally ... yes, snow isnt that common in northern germany.

I hope they are better ... welding looks much better then the one from kleemann and the pipes material is a little thicker.

greetings, Fabian
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what about the NGK zündkersen NGK PFR5R-11?
are they the same for all M113 engines?
sparkplugs fits the C43 engine up to E55 engine?
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No, S/C M113 uses different, Evo M113 has different and the N/A M113 also have their own ones. Check the NGK Homepage, i always use what they tell me
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Very nice! Thanks for sharing pics and info! Keep it coming!
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Originally Posted by kaype
No, S/C M113 uses different, Evo M113 has different and the N/A M113 also have their own ones. Check the NGK Homepage, i always use what they tell me

on german ebay I find information for plugs that NGK PFR5R-11 is recommended for both W202 C43AMG 113944 and W210 E55AMG 113980 engines

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jep, both the same engines, basically. non-evo N/A M113.

greetings, Fabian
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Great job as usual Fabian,

love the table,,

soooooooooooo unique..

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Originally Posted by kaype
Hi tehre,

several Months ago i had some Questions about 55K Camshafts in the NA 55 Engine. I tought a new thread would be fine to introduce myself ... finaly ... after getting the damn Speedshift Gearbox to work!

My Name is Fabian, i am from Germany and 33 years old. I love to drive Mercedes, besides my E55 i own a W123 280TE and a W123 200T. My Brother and I also take care of his W109 300SEL 6.3.

My Car is Originally a E430 Station ... we replaced the Engine with a AMG 55 N/A, made some Softwareupgrades, Exaust Mods, Camshafts and after all switched the Transmission from 722.636 to AMG Speedshift 722.643! Therefore the rear axle has to be switched from 2.82 to 2.65. The car has aprox 400PS without any sign on it ... the sound makes it a little obvious that it is not a 220CDI but on the "Autobahn" most of the fast cars are looking a little confused when you pass them with 280km/h

some other Mods where made:

- C55 W203 Breaks
- Eisenmann Rear exaust
- no resonator
- rear race cats
- Brabus Steeringwheel with E63 W212 Shifting Paddles
- REAL "M" Mode instead of the "Winter" Drivingprogram
- Bilstein B8 absorbers on the front
- H&R Springs for a lower ride.
- Carlsson Wheels
- H&R Stabilisators front and rear
- of course no V/Max restriction.

i also have made some good pics and vids of my car ... in germany everyone is a picture fanatic, maybe in the states also, so here you go ... some pictures of my "sleeper".

Sound Video:
W210 S210 E55 AMG - E55 W211 Camshafts, w/o resonator, Eisenmann Race Exaust, race kats. - YouTube

Speedshift Video:
W210 E55 AMG with 722.643 Speedshift Transmission, "M" Mode and Steering Wheel Shift Paddles - YouTube











































greetings, Fabian
great job comrade

what program do you use to modify software and what exactly was modified
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Renntech did that job for me ... that is one thing i let someone else, with much more knowledge then me, do.

As far as i know:

ECU: CLK-DTM Base modified for my car, tested on dyno.
TCU: CLK-DTM Base modified for my car to work with the W210 shifter and stuff.

greetings, Fabian
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Originally Posted by kaype
Renntech did that job for me ... that is one thing i let someone else, with much more knowledge then me, do.

As far as i know:

ECU: CLK-DTM Base modified for my car, tested on dyno.
TCU: CLK-DTM Base modified for my car to work with the W210 shifter and stuff.

greetings, Fabian
I see now, thanks mate

sick wagon
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Awesome sleeper....bet ya get home before the ice cream melts!
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"After that i decided to get rid of the 2 CWA50 Pumps and use CWA100 instead" are these stock pumps that fit right on the m113k engine?

Are your multi-piece rotors AMG rotors or aftermarket? Are you running them on 18's or 19's?

Have you started on the CLK-DTM cams yet?

Keep up the great work.

Mick
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Originally Posted by Pagz

I want to run a bespoke NSG510 6-speed , the rear diff on this is down around ~2.62 for this, I thought the 2.82 would be more suitable than 3.06.

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Paul,

I know this is old post but curious...

What transmission is that and what vehicle is it out of?

Thank s Mick
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Originally Posted by kaype
Fabian,

My Parents own a '00 W210 E55 4matic Stationwagon which was originaly transfered from a E430 as there is no W210 E55 4matic Station from stock ... only manufactured on customers wish by AMG (or other tuners like the car from my parents is manufactured from Kicherer)
Would love to see their wagon...

Mick
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Originally Posted by kaype
Let me quote Wikipedia

The Main Benefits, compared to the W210 non-Speedshift Transmission, are:

- Torque converter Lock-up from 1st gear, w210 has it in 3rd gear
- it can downshift 2 gears at once, kickdown in 5th gear will directly go to 3rd not to 4th gear.
- EXTREM fast shiftings at all

The CLK-DTM has even shorter shiftings but it is only possible with the Maybach valves in the valvebody, these are used in late 722.643 transmissions. mine came from a 2004 SL55 and still had the W140 Valves inside. I changed all of them to the W240 Valves (Modulate Pressure, Shift Pressure and Torque Converter Lock-up)

In numbers i would say the CLK-DTM Transmission compared to the original Transmission shifts 3 to 4 times faster. As i said, videos cant show what you feel when you drive such a transmission. But believe me ... it is fantastic and worth any penny i spend on this project!

greetings, Fabian
Is the physical transmission different on the "R" version as quoted or is it mainly just the w240 valves? I have 2004 CL55K and would love quicker shifts.

Mick
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Oohh, then you will have a most powerFUL W210TK..,

sooo Excited it, to see it after your magic touch...,,


My friend got an E55 with ME2.8, and same ESP # that i have,, his ESP flashing till around 70-80km,,

i think flashing is related to the ESP & TCU # version together, sensors are a minor thing, that catch a signals from the ECU,,

what do you think....??

ZAYED,,
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It's done

Calipers finished


The rear Calipers wont fit 1:1 because the Stationwagon has a different rear axle, i had to drill the Holes from 10.5mm to 12.5mm and take 2.5mm off the calipers mounting to fit the caliper offset to the brake disc.








Foglights had to "leave" because of the radiator ventilation.


Motor Oil Cooler




W220 Break




almost finished




320km/h AMG ODO








Next week i'll get a new exaust including a flap controlled by the ECU and i have to wash the car for ... i guess ... around 3 days until everthing is clean again
Never realised the calipers are on leading edge on front axle compared to my w215
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Are your multi-piece rotors AMG rotors or aftermarket? Are you running them on 18's or 19's?

Have you started on the CLK-DTM cams yet?

Keep up the great work.

Mick
With the 360mm CLK63 Brakes you can fit 18", but the Carlsson Rims are 19". Now i have 390mm Brakes ... only 19" rims will fit.

Originally Posted by AMG_55_cruiser
Would love to see their wagon...

Mick
Looks like a normal W210 E55 Station Wagon but also has "full specs" including leather dashboard etc.

Originally Posted by AMG_55_cruiser
Is the physical transmission different on the "R" version as quoted or is it mainly just the w240 valves? I have 2004 CL55K and would love quicker shifts.

Mick
You can upgrade to the #240 valves with your 722.643 Transmission but you also need an upgraded TCU.

Originally Posted by AMG_55_cruiser
Never realised the calipers are on leading edge on front axle compared to my w215
This is my old CLK63 Brake Setup with 19" Carlsson Rims.

greetings, Fabian
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:26 PM
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Fabian,

Are your 390 rotors from Black series or aftermarket? Notice big different between 360 and 390's?

Mick
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Originally Posted by kaype
me neither, only on explicit customer wish ... rumors tell they made 15 of it. But there are several 4matic mods made by other companys. Until a few weeks ago i tought the 4matic from my parents where build by "Kicherer" in Stockach. But i had a telephonecall with AMG and asked several other thing ... AND gave them the VIN from the 4matic to check. They told me that this car was originaly NEW delivered to AMG in Afalterbach and was rebuild to a E55 there. In the Datacard also the correct 5.5L AMG Engine Number is noted and in the list you find "030 - M113 5.5L AMG Engine" as code.

Hope they never let that one go...
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Some new Pictures... a friend of mine did a tremendous job on polishing and sealing my car with some nano sealing from "Koch Chemie". Great stuff thou

i also got my smaller S/C Pulley from Eurocharged. After a little math i came up with "172mm Crank Pulley + -6mm S/C Pulley" = "185mm Crank Pulley" ... what is a lot. I will do some testdrives the next days and see how much preasure i got now. Only with the 172mm Crank Pulleyy i had 0.85bar.

Here are the Pics:













































greetins, Fabian
Would love my inner headlights to look that bright...what bulbs are you using? Been wanting to do pre-facelift lens on my 2004 W215 Cl55
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Originally Posted by kaype
Hi,

thanks all :-)

No, i using the W220 S55 brake booster and brake cylinder. The E430/E55 (was the same) didnt really work out with the large calipers. With the W220 AMG Stuff its like throwing an anchor out of the window
Is the W220 S55 BB/BC the same as the W215 CL55 kompressor?

Thanks,
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