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going to be ordering some koni yellow adjustables. was wondering if they came with the dust shields and everything else thats needed to install. if not can i use what ever is on my bilstien shocks?
What is your long term thoughts with the shocks and springs? Anything to note?
Hey TG,
When I first installed the shocks, I planned on trying them out on all of the different settings. It never happened; they've been on the softest setting since the beginning. I was on the OE springs when I first installed them. Although the ride was harsher, I was happy with the ride and handling.
Since installing Vogtland springs, I'm more and more desiring a smoother ride. I love the ride height with the Vogtlands, and won't go back to the OE springs, but am considering making a change to get a smoother ride. I've thought about trying a set of FSD's, but haven't yet figured out if they make a set for our cars. Coilovers may be an option, but I haven't yet done any research.
The ride isn't terrible, and the handling is great, but at this stage, I wouldn't mind losing some handling for a smoother ride.
When I first installed the shocks, I planned on trying them out on all of the different settings. It never happened; they've been on the softest setting since the beginning. I was on the OE springs when I first installed them. Although the ride was harsher, I was happy with the ride and handling.
Since installing Vogtland springs, I'm more and more desiring a smoother ride. I love the ride height with the Vogtlands, and won't go back to the OE springs, but am considering making a change to get a smoother ride. I've thought about trying a set of FSD's, but haven't yet figured out if they make a set for our cars. Coilovers may be an option, but I haven't yet done any research.
The ride isn't terrible, and the handling is great, but at this stage, I wouldn't mind losing some handling for a smoother ride.
ddb
I did the same as this. Have Koni yellows on stock springs and used to have them on Eibach springs. They were great for autocrosses and track days.
End of the day, the Koni's are set to their softest and I'd like to go back to OEM setup which will probably be much smoother/comfy.
Since installing Vogtland springs, I'm more and more desiring a smoother ride. I love the ride height with the Vogtlands, and won't go back to the OE springs, but am considering making a change to get a smoother ride. I've thought about trying a set of FSD's, but haven't yet figured out if they make a set for our cars. Coilovers may be an option, but I haven't yet done any research.
The ride isn't terrible, and the handling is great, but at this stage, I wouldn't mind losing some handling for a smoother ride.
ddb
Originally Posted by SerbNerd
End of the day, the Koni's are set to their softest and I'd like to go back to OEM setup which will probably be much smoother/comfy.
Thanks for the feedback. I have been meaning to do this project but had a couple of car (driver) hiccups that set me behind on pulling the trigger while doing other repairs.
While I have not called Koni I think they only make FSD for W211 both FSD and Spring /FSD kit. Also I think the drop max for the shock is passed up by using the Vogtlands. However others have installed FSD even some with Votgland so how bad could it be not to be in spec?
Concerns me because mine is a daily driver and I suspect that I am looking for the same thing as you and SerbNerd- better handling when needed while not chipping teeth. On 19s with OEM I definitely feel every road imperfection so I cant imagine increasing what the two of you are saying having done this already.
SerbNerd, do you remember the part number did you used for the Eibach? I have not seen solid info on this either. Rippinitup was looking for it too.
Would the compromise be #1 pad, Eibach and FSD for ride height, handling and comfort?
This was my E430 with #1 front pad and #2 rear pad, Eibach pro-kit (2557.140) and 17" monoblocks
E430 and E55 had the same suspension so these springs should work on E55's even though Eibach doesn't list them as available in their catalog. As long as you don't mind losing a bit of comfort and would like to keep up with others on the track / autocross, go for the Koni yellows.
One thing I must say is that my friend with a C43 is currently on Vogtlands + blistein (???B12 Pro-Kit???) and I really like how his car rides. They have the Nurburgring outline on them so they gotta be good hah
i have the kony yellos and vogtland springs paired with spring pads F1/R4 on my c43 using 18 inch wheels.
ride is awesome, i always had the stiffest setup on my shox.
you want a gocart performance?
vogtland and koni = this is close to gocart performance
depends if your roads in america are bad with lots of potholes you might not like a stiffer ride, but then you shouldn't drive over potholes to screw your rims and tires!
roads in europe are mostly very good hence the pleasure of driving with stiff suspension.
i recommend the vogtlands and konis on an AMG.
you have a fast saloon, then you need the proper suspension to feel the synergy of driving fast
thanks for all the info everyone. my plan was to go with the koni yellows and vogtland springs. with #3 pads for some clearance. kind of getting scared of the ride being too "rough" from some of the reviews.
i came across the shocks and springs on instagram last night. someone got them for their 210 e55. they are sort of a coilover to say. adjustable springs. the whole kit is around 750. has anyone ever heard of this company. pb brakes? here is the kit for the 210
thanks for all the info everyone. my plan was to go with the koni yellows and vogtland springs. with #3 pads for some clearance. kind of getting scared of the ride being too "rough" from some of the reviews.
i came across the shocks and springs on instagram last night. someone got them for their 210 e55. they are sort of a coilover to say. adjustable springs. the whole kit is around 750. has anyone ever heard of this company. pb brakes? here is the kit for the 210
I have the exact setup you describe: Koni Yellows, Vogtlands with #3 pads. I think Kowalski is correct, the car handles great, and the ride is nice on decent roads. Unfortunately, the roads in my city and state are jacked up. I want to keep my ride height but get a better ride.
A fellow forum members posted about the coil overs you showed above. I'm looking forward to hearing his review on them. I may be interested.
Kit looks similar to the KSport coilover kit...I'm currently only running the adjustable perches. Not bad for 750
IMO the coilover kit is good if you like changing ride heights every so often. I daily my car and so for the winter I jack it up, come summer I bring her down. Obviously and alignment is needed every time you make a change
going to pull the trigger and order the koni's and vogtlands. i am going to keep #3 spring pads all around to get the desired height as @ddb has. should i reuse the ones that are on the car or just order new ones? and to confirm. the dust covers and everything else off these bilstiens i have i can use on the koni's? thanks again!!
got the konis and vogtland springs ordered. next is tires and a rear camber kit. thinking if i should get a few different size pads just to have if i want to play with the height.
in case anyone wants koni yellows they are on sale right now set of 4 for $450.
got the konis and vogtland springs ordered. next is tires and a rear camber kit. thinking if i should get a few different size pads just to have if i want to play with the height.
in case anyone wants koni yellows they are on sale right now set of 4 for $450.
Which camber kit did you go with? generic? or name brand?
got the shocks, springs and camber arms in. just waiting on new pads. might go ahead and install the shocks till the pads come. but im thinking it might be easier to do the springs with the shocks out the way.
With the right spring compressor, the shocks aren't in the way at all. I've changed spring pads on mine and don't remember the shocks being an issue as they stayed put.
got the shocks, springs and camber arms in. just waiting on new pads. might go ahead and install the shocks till the pads come. but im thinking it might be easier to do the springs with the shocks out the way.
So shiny and new!
Yea the spring compressor would help a bunch. I know for my car, I disconnect shock on lower control arm + sway bay and I usually can get enough droop to get the spring out with the compressor.
If you dont want to use the compressor, put a jack under the control arm near the lower ball joint, loosen lower control arm bolts and take off upper control arm to spindle nut. Then use a jack to slowly lower the control arm and release the spring. THIS IS KINDA DANGEROUS so please be careful!!! I always recommend using the right tool.
The rear is kinda similar story. Undo bolt for shock to lower control arm, place jack under where the control arm meets the chassis (closest to center of vehicle), undo bolt and take it out, then slowly lower jack to release tension in spring. IMO the spring compressor tool wont help much for the rear.
If you dont have the compressor, I have one I could loan you with deposit and shipping both ways. I'm in Indiana so not sure where you are.
its easier to do the rear without a compressor. There is not much space so I just took the bolt out of the lower control arm and lowered it with a jack. When I tried to use a compressor in the rear I was not able to get the spring compressed enough to get it out.
got the konis and vogtland springs ordered. next is tires and a rear camber kit. thinking if i should get a few different size pads just to have if i want to play with the height.
in case anyone wants koni yellows they are on sale right now set of 4 for $450.
Hello, by the way, where did you buy them for that price? It's like 6-700 right now.
More importantly, hows the ride? I'm looking for shocks for stock springs.
Thanks in advance.
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